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skydiver

Paranormal Novice
The title goes well with the area that I live by. The stories are real.Is all you got to do is have an open mind and believe in the unexplained.What Im about to lay on you is the honest to Gods truth.The area is located in Northwestern pa. on the outskirts of a town called Warren Pa.The area I speak of is Kinzua Dam area.The area is a paranormal investigators dream come true. The area is very beautiful but strange and full of strange things that go bump in the middle of the night and day to.I have seen thing that to this very day I still have a hard time believing what I have seen.Im also a paranormal investigator.Here are a few thing that I have seen up there.[ufo's that come out of the lake and hover and two white balls of light that came from it . I've came face to face with bigfoot.I watched as a portal hole open and shut.I've watch a strange fog of some sort follow us around . This fog really didn't touch the ground and it was able to follow us even as we walked into the wind.I've seen columns of light come out of the sky at night almost touch the ground then go back up into the sky and repeat itself.These are just a few.If you want to read some of the stories that I have written you can find them on a web sight called Hell If I Care. Look for the blog called strange kinzua. Or if you want to see some of the pictures that have been taken up in that area you can go to a web sight called Strange Kinzua . When you go into that go to pictures click on it . When it opens up go to the top where it says 36 pictures and click on it.Those are some of the pictures that I have taken. The stories are all true and 99% of the have a witness to them.I also know two people that were abducted up there.Drop me a line if you have any questions.Either here or e-mail me at skydiver@pennswoods.net
 
I have not looked at the pictures of the events you describe yet.

I have a couple of questions.

What did did the portal look or feel like and how did you know it was a portal?

Is there a Military base near this area?
 
Pixelsmith: go to strange kinzua. Once inside Double click the mouse on the left hand side on pictures. When it opens go to the top and look for where it say 37 photos and click it . When it opens up and the pictures are down loaded it should say strange kinzua.

Subject X : By clicking on it it should take you to another web sight.At least its supposed to .

Ally : I'll answer your questions tomorrow ok. In the mean time go to the web page called [hell if I care.] You'll have to sign up and get a pass word to get in . Don't worry its free.If it ask you if your 18 just say yes or say you have permission to be there. They'll send a pass word .You can read some of the stories in there ok > Until I have time to put them in here. I already tried once tonight to do it but I lost what I wrote because I got disconnected.
 
These photos and corresponding anecdotal evidence is suspect to say the least. You present this with poor grammatical prose to some very skeptical and knowledgeable people regarding this subject and expect positive reviews?

A number of the photos look like classic hoaxes and photos derived from different sources of years past. I don’t want to be too harsh but I found little remarkable in the way of paranormal about your photos. Sorry, but this stuff gives the ufokid a pretty good run for the money.
 
Well I am still waiting for your answer. From what the other people are saying on this foum about the "pictures" , I guess I didn't miss too much.
 
Ally I'm really sorry that it has taken so long to get back to
you . The truth is I tried earlier in the week but for some reason it didn't make it and I got the message back.We've been having trouble with our internet provider.So please forgive me.Now I can answer your questions.The only way to do that is tell you the story
I'll try and make it short and sweet.The story takes place durning the summertime just after school had started.At the time I was 27 years old.The area itself is a very strange .So here goes nothing.

The day started off normal and I didn't have anything at the time to do so I decided to go for a hike up to a place called kinzua Dam. It was a nice sunny day very few clouds in the sky. I went to a place called Rim Rock in the dam area. There's a place up there we call the circle area.This place is really strange.That's where the pictures of the burnt grass and the circle were taken .The best way to view these pictures is to magnify them.Now back to the story. I notice for some strange reason that it was quieter than usual that day. I didn't hear any birds chirpping that day. As I sat in the circle area I decided to take a short hike to what we call the indian burial grounds to set for a while. Which was about a football field length away from where I was.As I turned off the main path on to the other path and had only walked a couple minutes on it when it happen. It got dead quiet not a sound to be heard anywhere. It was as if I had entered a sound proof room.The sky above that was once blue and almost cloudless was taking on a different look now. It had turn from a dark blue to a light red all most like one of those mercury vapor light that have a pink color to them.Then it started to happen . This will be hard for you or anyone to believe but its the honest to God truth. I stop to look around because the hair on my arms and no doubt the rest of my body was standing up. As I stood there I couldn't believe my eyes. The path I was on was starting to disappear. The once open area I was in now was starting to be replaced with different plants and bushes that weren't there before.I started to panic and decide to turn around and get the hell out of there. When I turned around the path was gone and I had no idea where it was or where I was . As I started to walk back in the direction I came in thats when I seen the hole in front of me. The hole itself was about ten foot in circumference It was about 50 feet to 70 feet in front of me. I started to walk towards it but something inside of me told me to get away from it .I got about 20 or 30 feet from it and was looking at it. I couldn't see anything inside of it because it was to dark inside it.This hole was in the middle of the wooded area not near any hill . The only other thing I'll tell you now is that I ended up over a mile from where I went in the woods and it only took me about 15 minutes to get there according to my watch that day. There's more to the story but I don't want to go into anymore details at the time.As it is the two idiots will have to add their two cents worth.

To Pixelsmith and Seth who I don't want to be to harsh on. I can promise both of you that the pictures are not faked in anyways. Some of the pictures were from the seventies. But they weren't faked. I do not believe in doing that . The story that I just told you was the honest to Gods truth and I would be willing to take a lie detector test for you if you want to pay for it or any other story that I may put in here.I can also promise you this to . That everyone of the law enforcement branches and the forestry and the military personal that have anything to do with this area knows what is going on up in these woods. There are places up there that they monitor. It is one of the best kept paranormal secrets of it kind. And any damn day you think you brave enough to stay by yourself up there I'll take you there . But I must remind you that this doesn't go on everyday . Its a hit and miss game . It happens when it happens I have no control over it nor do they.But if I did I make sure you guys and anyone else that has a smart a-- remark got to go into the area and hope like he-- it happen to you at night . So you could get a real good scare. I can promise both of you that there have been time that I have praied to God for fear that something awful was about to happen to me and my side kick that goes with me sometimes .You can laugh all you want . I promise you this I wont lie about what goes on up in those woods. I believe you and anyone else has that right to know for your own good when your in that area.
P.S. If you happen to find spelling mistakes or any other mistakes in this to bad . Its 1:32 a.m. and its past my bed time. So good night all.
 
skydiver said:
As it is the two idiots will have to add their two cents worth.

mmmmm k, here goes.

I never actually said I didn't believe you or that I was convinced you did not have an experience. Your validity through the presentation of this topic is very suspect. The pictures you present are a conglomeration of pictures from the 70s, a Bigfoot rendering, and a few photos you snapped yourself.

Otherwise, you offer an anecdotal story that appears to be a visceral reaction to being lost and confused in the wilderness. I am not accusing you of making up the events or the entire story. What I am suggesting is that there are more explanations to what is going on than probably just your interpretation or what you are convinced of.

I guess the point is that the individuals on this forum have had these types of scenarios thrown at them time and again by people who are very convinced of something and unwilling to search for truth. Rather, these people make bold claims with little evidence and can prove it by swearing to “God”, and taking lie detectors, etc.

What can you offer us as far as tangible data? How about looking into and offering some of those police reports, or military and forest ranger records? Get something solid and I’ll consider sleeping with you in a scary place ;).
 
Ok lets try this again. Seth we have tried to get infor from the local law enforcement . They told me they don't have any record of ufo sighting or anything like that. I know damn well the keep a record of what is going on around here. I'm not really sure how to go about getting the freedom of information acted papers. I also got a warning to leave well enough alone. We've been told to leave the wood three times up there or else we were going to get into a lot of trouble.I've had my phone bugged. The only reason I know that is because we were having trouble with our phone and we called a repair man to come and fix it.When the repair man showed up It happen to be a real good friend of my parents that worked for the phone co. I asked him if he had away to check to see if my phone was bugged.He stop at the house a week later and ask me what in the hell I was up to.He said that I was on the top of the list and considered to be a threat .I even have had government car pull into my driveway and when I went out to see what was up they took off. We have advertised on the internet that we were going to have a paranormal get together up in this area and guess what. The state police check up on us three time in one night . The third time they took down our license plate #. We have also had our car check.The last time we camped out a dark colored car pulled into the parking area and started taking pictures of us. The reason we know this is one of our party members was coming back from a potty brake up by where they were parked and seen them taking pictures of our group.They didn't know she was there and she caught them by supprise.They took off as soon as they seen her. I guess they were to busy watching us to notice her.
The pictures are the proof . Did you try to enlarge them ?I know there not the best . There are some pictures that are missing what happen to them I don't know. This will make the third time I will have put them in.As soon as I get some of the new pictures I try to down load them to the sight. Please trust me when I say that this is a paranormal investigators dream. I haven't even touch the tip of the iceberg yet . We even found it into two different places monster piles of sh--.We made a big mistake by putting a note on this blog on the internet in our area and guess what happen when we went up two days later with an expert hunter that knew animal crap all three of the piles of crap were gone. Last fall again we found six piles of crap bigger than the others and again it was on the internet and you guessed it . It also disappeared. We got pictures of it and also they don't know that we managed to get a sample . But once again no one knows where to take it. I've sent letters to different paranormal organization but no one wants to be bothered with it. So what are we to do . This year were going to set up some cameras and try to capture the real thing on video . Seth I can promise you or anyone else out there that this is no joke . Nor am I lying to you about what is going on in this area. Please understand I don't believe in lying about this stuff. Like I said before and I believe in it 100 per cent . You have the right to know whats going on and I'll try my damnest to get that truth to you and anyone else who wants to hear it. Before closing I'd like to say I'm sorry for being rude two you guys at the beging of this blog and calling you idiots. Even if you think I'm crazy .I'll only print the truth until I'm made to stop.
 
skydiver said:
Ok lets try this again. Seth we have tried to get infor from the local law enforcement . They told me they don't have any record of ufo sighting or anything like that. I know damn well the keep a record of what is going on around here. I'm not really sure how to go about getting the freedom of information acted papers. I also got a warning to leave well enough alone. We've been told to leave the wood three times up there or else we were going to get into a lot of trouble.I've had my phone bugged. The only reason I know that is because we were having trouble with our phone and we called a repair man to come and fix it.When the repair man showed up It happen to be a real good friend of my parents that worked for the phone co. I asked him if he had away to check to see if my phone was bugged.He stop at the house a week later and ask me what in the hell I was up to.He said that I was on the top of the list and considered to be a threat .I even have had government car pull into my driveway and when I went out to see what was up they took off. We have advertised on the internet that we were going to have a paranormal get together up in this area and guess what. The state police check up on us three time in one night . The third time they took down our license plate #. We have also had our car check.The last time we camped out a dark colored car pulled into the parking area and started taking pictures of us. The reason we know this is one of our party members was coming back from a potty brake up by where they were parked and seen them taking pictures of our group.They didn't know she was there and she caught them by supprise.They took off as soon as they seen her. I guess they were to busy watching us to notice her.
The pictures are the proof . Did you try to enlarge them ?I know there not the best . There are some pictures that are missing what happen to them I don't know. This will make the third time I will have put them in.As soon as I get some of the new pictures I try to down load them to the sight. Please trust me when I say that this is a paranormal investigators dream. I haven't even touch the tip of the iceberg yet . We even found it into two different places monster piles of sh--.We made a big mistake by putting a note on this blog on the internet in our area and guess what happen when we went up two days later with an expert hunter that knew animal crap all three of the piles of crap were gone. Last fall again we found six piles of crap bigger than the others and again it was on the internet and you guessed it . It also disappeared. We got pictures of it and also they don't know that we managed to get a sample . But once again no one knows where to take it. I've sent letters to different paranormal organization but no one wants to be bothered with it. So what are we to do . This year were going to set up some cameras and try to capture the real thing on video . Seth I can promise you or anyone else out there that this is no joke . Nor am I lying to you about what is going on in this area. Please understand I don't believe in lying about this stuff. Like I said before and I believe in it 100 per cent . You have the right to know whats going on and I'll try my damnest to get that truth to you and anyone else who wants to hear it. Before closing I'd like to say I'm sorry for being rude two you guys at the beging of this blog and calling you idiots. Even if you think I'm crazy .I'll only print the truth until I'm made to stop.

So now what? What is your plan to expose this place or prove its validity? Are you looking for: investigators, cryptozoologists, ufologists, skeptics, supported belief?
 
i suggest personally analyzing the dung further. because of the diet these creatures have, there is a hint of surfer that can be detected only when sampled orally. please let us know your findings. lol. kidding. eating any amount of bigfoot crap can leave a bad taste in your mouth.

i suggest the motion sensor cameras as well. good luck. new mammals are discovered all the time.
 
This is all from an MSN group. I can't find any mention there by skydiver of being followed or watched. I have red some neat things about that area, though, related to the Ohio mound builders, giant skeletons, and such...I'd love to poke around up there, bet the fishing is great, but I doubt I'd see any me in black or feds following me.

http://groups.msn.com/strangekinzua/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=150&LastModified=4675613952587158046
 
Digigeek If you ever get up this way and would like to go to this area drop me a note . That also goes for anyone that happens to come up this way . I'll be glad to show you .There are a lot of thing I haven't posted in strange kinzua yet. If you want to read some of the stoties they have been posted in a web page called Hell If I Care
Once in there look for the blog called Strange Kinzua.Its one of those blog where you can go to bit-- about anything as long as you keep it clean.If I knew how to send the stories here I would . I also have a video of some kind of creature swimming in the lake up here.And pitcure of the animial crap. And some other strange things.
 
pixelsmith said:
i suggest personally analyzing the dung further. because of the diet these creatures have, there is a hint of surfer that can be detected only when sampled orally.


they eat surfers ?

i suppose that qualifys as sea food diet
 
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