Ryan Skinner - Skinwalker Ranch

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The point is no one has taken the time to research this subject thoroughly about 3D image projection or lasers and invisible light detection methods, and there is a complete failure to even mention that possibility in Ryan's book. Plus, he admits to not know anything about it. That is a glaring weakness and blind spot to be doing these kinds of investigations without some serious background information and knowledge about this.

When Ryan admits he has seen these similar type of orbs (different shape size) at two different times and two different locations, then it is obvious he is being a "marked man" for PSYOPS. Why? Both times the orbs were a set of 3 translucent lights in triangle formations that moved instep together. At Skinwalker the orbs were about basketball size and each cast a light on him & a witness too. This is classic. This technology is man made and goes back to at least 1979, when it was used in some cattle dissection PSYOPS. This was told by Gabe and Greg Valdez, and Bennewitz thought these objects were being flown off the Air Force base where he photographed and filmed these objects departing and returning. Plenty of direct evidence was SEEN by this police officer (with other witnesses present too) watching these objects in the field 'numerous times' to know these were human remote controlled.

Then Ryan goes to the Bradshaw ranch and is given another 3D three translucent lights show, but no light is shown on him below. These are not hapless random experiences. These are human caused. He is being selected to propagate "this UFO" message in his radio show interviews and books.

I agree Ryan's book is very reasonably priced, and he is probably sincere about what he is doing too. BUT. The tricksters have already marked him. He is doing their bidding unwittingly. He must get up to speed learning about the 3D image projection and invisible light detectors and laser use, whether ground level Skinwalker or skyward UFO. Humans were doing these types of light shows as far back as 1979. No doubt in my mind this was being done by remote control even decades before that too with a similar PSYOPS concept but different and older technology. Holograms are real.

These are human caused events Ryan saw, because this was also PROVEN to be happening back in 1979. I'm sure the technology is far more advanced today, but the pattern of PSYOPS is the same. Another thing, when someone (not Ryan) mentioned Robert Collins and Derrel Sims on the radio show I already 'know' those people are either delusional and/or PSYOPS. Don't be misled by either of those two "nutcases". Watch out!

Don't be a patsy dupe for the tricksters!

You’ve just stated here:

“At Skinwalker the orbs were about basketball size and each cast a light on him & a witness too. This is classic. This technology is man made and goes back to at least 1979, when it was used in some cattle dissection PSYOPS.”

Are you seriously suggesting that the military owns holographic technology that presents itself as an energetic sphere, and is capable of performing surgery? Do I read you correctly here?

 

[Burnt State]

Valdez, Bennewitz, Doty, Howe all tell a specific story and give shape to the ministers of deception who would mutilate cows and use whatever cloak & dagger means available to obfuscate, confuse, and manufacture belief systems often pertaining to the easiest narrative to spin; because, it has so many possibilities - Aliens! There is nothing they would not do to continue their experiments, including experimenting on people. Bennewitz, like Howe, should be a warning to everyone.

Now, this other narrative of NIDS, Bigelow, Kelleher, Alexander and Knapp, of which Ryan is a part of and that Vallée was invited to, is also a fairly curious thing. The narrative spin there is that science is investigating serious paranormal weirdness with dog faced men smoking by the side of the road, ufo landing indents of all kinds and disembodied voices in the sky, not the military experimenting on people, again. Haven't they learned that it always comes out eventually, the evil things they dabble in while in pursuit of superiority?

But the place does have some odd pieces to it, like all the doors with bolt locks on the inside including one closet. Is paranoia something that humans first cultivated there on their own? O'Brien is in fact the first researcher on the scene documenting trees being sheared by a UFO, wasn't it? And what are we to do with that part of the timeline, @DissectionStalker , was he just being set up along with the family, another patsy? Things just don't make sense there, along with Knapp's confirmation of paranormal dabblings, & Vallée's involvement.

Like a scene from an anime movie where strange monsters crawl out of portals the sensationalism of Skinwalker is on the highest order. However, proof is still not accessible. Is this perhaps just the same old narrative, pulling in as many from the fringes as possible, the usual games, but done more seriously? Strange isn't it that The trickster always seems to tell human tales, most likely by human agents, creating these invisible formations.

I was at the Skinwalker Ranch and all I got was this lousy postcard.

 

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On one side of your equation the players were either insane or diluted, and on the other not so. Just to think, if the military were to possess the type of technology to have an orb that were to perform surgery, why hasn’t it surfaced in combat theaters, or in operating rooms? The reason for this is that it simply doesn’t exist. Sure, they most likely have some exotic toys, but nothing like that. And again, why in this world would the government’s military want to go and conduct long term, continuous psychological torture on its own population, when they already have more than enough data to draw conclusions from? As in again, its illegal, needless, senseless, and a waste of money. The postcard is rather cute though.

 

[DissectionStalker]

You wrote: "Are you seriously suggesting that the military owns holographic technology that presents itself as an energetic sphere, and is capable of performing surgery? Do I read you correctly here?"

Where does surgery come in to play??? Are you talking about the dissections that were done by human hands? Both at Skinwalker and at Dulce? These were done by sharp knifes or cutting implements. Where is the photographic PROOF or police EVIDENCE of anything needed by an ET off-planet device to do the cutting and dissection???

Please don't forget balloon boy. Hoaxes are very real often used to cover-up the real culprits agenda and motives. Frame the ET-Aliens, so the HUMAN illegal abuse can occur.

As far as human motives go at the Dulce area, all you have to do is read that book I already listed in a previous post. PLEASE, read that book to understand why those Dulce cattle were dissected in a specific way. There can be more than just one reason and motive why many other dissections occurred in that whole region of the USA. It is not 'just' the military.

TO: Ryan S. this book below only came out in mid-2013. You need to keep this book as a reference for what's to come...

Read Dulce Base The Truth and Evidence from the Case Files of Gabe Valdez

Finally, where is the PROOF how the Cottonwood trees high branches were "hacked off" by paranormal means? No doubt, freak high velocity dust devils or lightening or other natural means can cause high branches to snap or be cut -including human tricksters too!

Maybe someone HUMAN wanted these people off that ranch? Does this property border on the Indian Reservation? Humans in the flesh can "haunt" or terrorize other people for various reasons and motives. Someone is using a Skinwalker theme? Read Tony Hillerman stories... these are great detective stories with "skinwalker" themes, Indian rituals, all blended with crimes to be solved. These are great reads that often have some mystical and scarey component involving skinwalker mystique and human impersonators.

Burnt State: Fantastic post! I love your avatar pic too! I don't think that ET-UFO intends to dissect your Skippy. (But some few French do eat horse meat I'm told.)

 

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Sorry dude, I thought you were suggesting that there were military orbs fluttering about whilst carving up cows.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Burnt State wrote: But the place does have some odd pieces to it, like all the doors with bolt locks on the inside including one closet. Is paranoia something that humans first cultivated there on their own? O'Brien is in fact the first researcher on the scene documenting trees being sheared by a UFO, wasn't it? And what are we to do with that part of the timeline, @DissectionStalker , was he just being set up along with the family, another patsy? Things just don't make sense there, along with Knapp's confirmation of paranormal dabblings, & Vallée's involvement.

To Burnt State: Hilarious Postcard. Thanks!

Listen to this Paracast if you missed it:

June 1, 2014 — George Wingfield

https://www.theparacast.com/podcasts/paracast_140601.mp3

During that interview at the 2hr:05min mark Wingfield explained he knows a witness that was standing right next to the person living there at Skinwalker, Terry Sherman, when he said that man living there saw a creature come-out of the portal. This was the famous "main event", but only one person sees it. But, the witness standing right there too said he saw nothing! The other guy right next to him that lives there is freaked out by this creature. What gives??? Is he hallucinating? WTF. So, Sherman just has his family to support some of his sightings. His dogs become "grease piles" ??? Where is the photographic evidence! This whole pile of cow patties screams psychological disorders possibly caused by some external cause(s). Campfire spooky stories. The Indian tricksters are laughing their Skinwalker wolf masks off. It works!!! Now there's books, big TV media hype, and movies made. Fear is a powerful weapon.

It is very possible some human(s) wanted these people off the ranch.

Elsewhere in the interview he tells the story about a friend that witnessed how Dr. Greer was putting on group sky watching UFO events to display these same type of triangle spheres (like Ryan saw at Skinwalker) moving across the sky at a specific time. It was hilarious!

 

[SRL+]

I have compiled a list, (by your definition); of whom would be considered as “balloon boys” and I will say that at this point in time that I will take their research and opinions easily over yours.

Robert Bigelow, Chris O’Brien, Phd Colm Kelleher, Phd Jack Sarfatti, Phd Jacques Vallee, Dr. John Alexander, Phd Frank Salisbury, Junior Hicks, Ryan Skinner, Phd Hal Puthoff, Jasson Viggato, Gary Hernandez, George Knapp, and others who will go unmentioned.

So junior, you go back and do your homework and then we’ll talk.

Give a troll an inch, and they'll take a mile...

 

[DissectionStalker]

I have compiled a list, (by your definition); of whom would be considered as “balloon boys” and I will say that at this point in time that I will take their research and opinions easily over yours.

Robert Bigelow, Chris O’Brien, Phd Colm Kelleher, Phd Jack Sarfatti, Phd Jacques Vallee, Dr. John Alexander, Phd Frank Salisbury, Junior Hicks, Ryan Skinner, Phd Hal Puthoff, Jasson Viggato, Gary Hernandez, George Knapp, and others who will go unmentioned.

So junior, you go back and do your homework and then we’ll talk.

Give a troll an inch, and they'll take a mile...

WTF. That is 'your' list 'not' mine. I never said any of these people are balloon boys. You're full of it... trying to thrust a falsehood in my name.

You seem to have little understanding of hallucinations or mental illness to not understand either one of these are likely causes and/or some criminal activity was taking place too! Some freak natural phenomena could be involved too, but there is certainly human tricksters involved. Yes, I do believe more than one trickster is doing this.

Btw, Bigelow can be duped too. Some hoaxers definitely have gotten money from Bigelow to perpetrate their BS. I don't have to name names...

You obviously don't read my posts very accurately, and you're attacking me with 'your' list of names that I have nothing to do with. Balloon boy is nothing more than a warning about the trickster element in all this. Are you so blind as to not understand this is very likely a human trickster(s) possibility too?

 

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It’s pretty obvious that you’re a troll. Ryan called it back in post #49, and you’ve pretty much demonstrated that throughout this discourse. Your username says it all. So, go away “DissectionStalker”…, don’t go away mad.., just go away.

 

[not even wrong]

WTF. That is 'your' list 'not' mine. I never said any of these people are balloon boys. You're full of it... trying to thrust a falsehood in my name.

You seem to have little understanding of hallucinations or mental illness to not understand either one of these are likely causes and/or some criminal activity was taking place too! Some freak natural phenomena could be involved too, but there is certainly human tricksters involved. Yes, I do believe more than one trickster is doing this.

Btw, Bigelow can be duped too. Some hoaxers definitely have gotten money from Bigelow to perpetrate their BS. I don't have to name names...

You obviously don't read my posts very accurately, and you're attacking me with 'your' list of names that I have nothing to do with. Balloon boy is nothing more than a warning about the trickster element in all this. Are you so blind as to not understand this is very likely a human trickster(s) possibility too?

I think you should probably read the book first. It has a lot of interesting background info and reports prior to Bigelow's involvement. How do you explain the experiences prior? Sure, you can take the Indian myths with a grain of salt but there seemed to be a lot of other experiences and evidence before Bigelow ever came in to the picture. I will give you this, maybe it is some type of electromagnetic phenomena that causes different people to experience it differently. Of course the govt would want to spend time out there trying to see if it can be weaponized. But I don't think you can explain the whole thing away as simply a psy-op. I read the Valdez book as well and I don't see this as being the same phenomena.

 

[Burnt State]

On one side of your equation the players were either insane or diluted, and on the other not so. Just to think, if the military were to possess the type of technology to have an orb that were to perform surgery, why hasn’t it surfaced in combat theaters, or in operating rooms? The reason for this is that it simply doesn’t exist. Sure, they most likely have some exotic toys, but nothing like that. And again, why in this world would the government’s military want to go and conduct long term, continuous psychological torture on its own population, when they already have more than enough data to draw conclusions from? As in again, its illegal, needless, senseless, and a waste of money. The postcard is rather cute though.

What I'm outlining is that 1) strange things have been reported on the ranch that has some odd hisory to it but there is no proof of any of it, just some great NIDS reports which are quite interesting on their own 2) no evidence of anything has ever been provided. yes there's Knapp's book and the mysterious video that no one else got to see of wires getting ripped out - mostly hearsay stuff at the end of the day and more good stories 3) the history of duping people into believing in aliens in order to provide a cover for military experimentation is an ongoing event 4) to what extent are various figures involved in the ranch's true narrative vs. who is being brainwashed or experimented upon is still an unknown 5) lots of paranormal perpetuation is going on in the form of books, public legitimacy etc. might as well sell t-shirts.

Orb surgery? Not part of my narrative. While an interesting idea, you have to consider between the grease stained dogs, spontaneous calf evisceration and other odd pieces O'Brien has retold there must be a core truth: a) paranormal activity b) military/corporate hi jinks c) bullshitters bs'ing each other and my favourite d) all of the above.

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

Sorry dude, I thought you were suggesting that there were military orbs fluttering about whilst carving up cows.

I appreciate JA's insightful summation about the Sherman/NIDS ranch's activity

"It's a pre-cognitive, sentient phenomena. There were any number of other things [that occurred there] that were equally disturbing; equally spread out over time and space; equally different in the way that the presentation took place, so...you end up with the Trickster."

 

[marduk]

Am I way off base thinking that the US military using a far-off secret ranch to do psyops is a dumb idea? I mean, it's civilian space, and nobody's there to experiment on. The airspace is uncontrolled. The ground space is easily penetrated. Doesn't make sense to me.

Am I also way off base thinking that the military connection could be very easily explained by one private contractor with billions in his pocket, who also has military connections, could get tangental military involvement? Seems quite straightforward to me that Bigelow could be considered as a bit of a (powerful, smart, but eccentric kook) to the military and they could be humouring him.

I seriously doubt the capital-M Military has official involvement or interest in the ranch.

But hey, that's me.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Where are the police reports and EVIDENCE ???

I suggested that when the Skinwalkers come into the picture it is best to read some Tony Hillerman books to get a feel for the tricksters in that venue. Hillerman's books are far more entertaining and in-depth than Terry Sherman's nefarious sightings that evaporate to only one person (himself) seeing the creature when a second witness, not family, was right there standing next to him looking at the same "light spot", and the witness did NOT see it. See Post 66 for the details. You can listen to George Wingfield yourself on that Paracast now. I even give you the time mark to find it immediately.

As Greg and Gabe Valdez say, as police investigator officers, follow the evidence or lack of evidence! Stick with ALL the possible human causes BEFORE you blame ET-Aliens, Bigfoot, or Skinwalkers.

High resolution photography was available to document ANY evidence since the 1950's. Police were always available to document potential criminal activity. All I hear is a pile of spooky stories that evaporate into human tricksters, mental illness, hallucinations, and myth making rooted in the Indian mystique of that area. Yeah, you bet a lot of people are going to say "The Skinwalker" did it for any number of reasons mostly having to do with beliefs to scapegoat "the unexplained" or criminal or other trickster elements.

Ryan S. said the activity seems to go on a 10 year cycle. All you hot shot investigators better come-up with some good laser and invisible light detection equipment. You'd better get schooled in 3D image projection, and learn about how magic is done. Go to Las Vegas and watch those magic shows! Study magic and deception.

ALSO, I JUST THOUGHT OF A BRILLIANT LEGAL IDEA HOW TO EXPOSE THESE BASTARD TRICKSTERS. GET A BUNCH OF CUSTOM FIREWORKS SET TO EXPLODE QUIETLY AT CERTAIN DISTANCES WITH A TON OF FINE PARTICLE DUST TO COVER A LARGE AREA. THEN WHEN THESE HUMAN SHAPE SHIFTERS TRY THIS CRAP YOU EXPLODE THE POWDER DUST INSIDE THEIR 3D IMAGING. PUT SOME FLORESCENCE GLOWING PARTICLES IN THE POWDER DUST TOO, SO YOU CAN TRACK ANY REAL HUMAN TRICKSTERS THAT ARE FLESH AND BLOOD WITH AN INVISIBLE SPOT LIGHT. ALSO, THE PARTICLES WILL EXPOSE THE LIGHT PROJECTION BEAMS LEADING TO THEIR SOURCES. GAME OVER. LOL. MUHAHAHA.

Also, get some electric surveillance radio controlled helicopter or plane with cameras to fly around the area by remote control. These can be built and flown for well under $1,000-2,000 dollars. Put thermal imaging camera on it too for nighttime surveillance. These can be programed with GPS to do a circuit run, so you don't even have to fly it manually.

Hah, I bet there are some trickster investigators that will never do this, because it would expose the farcical game of generating income for numerous tricksters in the area too. Witness Roswell as a perfect example. Create a legend and "they will come" -the tourist money will come!!!

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

...Hah, I bet there are some trickster investigators that will never do this, because it would expose the farcical game of generating income for numerous tricksters in the area too. Witness Roswell as a perfect example. Create a legend and "they will come" -the tourist money will come!!!

What's up w/ the "trickster" tag? You are over (and miss-) using the term... what's your trickster point already? You certainly seem to like the sound of your keyboard keys clacking out this particular tag. Why not the other relevant "trickster" examples like, fool, coyote, raven or clown?

 

[Goggs Mackay]

You made your point! You don't think anything paranormal is going on at the ranch. Personally, I don't think Et is involved and I don't think Ryan does either. Ive always thought there must be one paranormal spirit type thing that manifests in various guises.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Am I way off base thinking that the US military using a far-off secret ranch to do psyops is a dumb idea? I mean, it's civilian space, and nobody's there to experiment on. The airspace is uncontrolled. The ground space is easily penetrated. Doesn't make sense to me.

Am I also way off base thinking that the military connection could be very easily explained by one private contractor with billions in his pocket, who also has military connections, could get tangental military involvement? Seems quite straightforward to me that Bigelow could be considered as a bit of a (powerful, smart, but eccentric kook) to the military and they could be humouring him.

I seriously doubt the capital-M Military has official involvement or interest in the ranch.

But hey, that's me.

I agree with you completely. Unless there is some military base nearby or military exercises done in the area, then it is unlikely the military is directly doing this. In the Ryan S. interview it was said a lot of SUV types organized in convoy(s) with covered hidden equipment that was on trailer(s) have come into the area. I don't know if military convoys were seen?

In some of my posts I am exposing the Military technology of PSYOPS using the 3D imaging projecting into the sky or ground areas. Bigelow would definitely have access to this technology by reverse engineering or just R&D. Las Vegas has a lot of Magic Light Show technology that Bigelow or anyone else could track down to use.

In that interview with Ryan S. it was said some mysterious rods were found with a dissection kill. What a pile of Cow Patties. Such total BS. Whomever is attached to that story is either insane or PSYOPS or stupid patsies!!! Anyone, associated with doing and spreading that BS is full of sheeit.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Very Lance-like?

 

[SRL+]

What I'm outlining is that 1) strange things have been reported on the ranch that has some odd hisory to it but there is no proof of any of it, just some great NIDS reports which are quite interesting on their own 2) no evidence of anything has ever been provided. yes there's Knapp's book and the mysterious video that no one else got to see of wires getting ripped out - mostly hearsay stuff at the end of the day and more good stories 3) the history of duping people into believing in aliens in order to provide a cover for military experimentation is an ongoing event 4) to what extent are various figures involved in the ranch's true narrative vs. who is being brainwashed or experimented upon is still an unknown 5) lots of paranormal perpetuation is going on in the form of books, public legitimacy etc. might as well sell t-shirts.

Orb surgery? Not part of my narrative. While an interesting idea, you have to consider between the grease stained dogs, spontaneous calf evisceration and other odd pieces O'Brien has retold there must be a core truth: a) paranormal activity b) military/corporate hi jinks c) bullshitters bs'ing each other and my favourite d) all of the above.

In response:

1). you’ve apparently never read “Hunt for the Skinwalker” or have viewed the images in-between the cover. You’re a teacher, go on out to your local library, and check out a copy.

2). I’ve provided a video clip, (above), in which John Alexander describes the vandalism of a remote surveillance camera while other properly functioning remote surveillance cameras record the event.

3-4). I’ll refer you back to post #63, with this quote below:

And again, why in this world would the government’s military want to go and conduct long term, continuous psychological torture on its own population, when they already have more than enough data to draw conclusions from? As in again, it’s illegal, needless, senseless, and a waste of money.

5). You should really go out there and get yourself a “Skinwalker-Tee” as postcards from the edge only go so far.

6). Yeah, I’m fully aware that the slashing orb narrative doesn’t have your signature on it. Take a close look at post #63, and you’ll most likely be able to figure it out.

 

[SRL+]

Very Lance-like?

Not a chance. I would think that L. would write better.