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http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/newreleases.cfm

Sen. Sessions Releases List of 20 Loopholes in the Senate Immigration Bill


Monday, June 4, 2007



WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) released a list of 20 loopholes in the comprehensive immigration bill today which reveals that the bill is fatally flawed and will not establish a functioning immigration system in the future.

The list of loopholes includes flaws effecting border security, chain-migration and assimilation policies. The list exposes the lack of serious attention given to ensuring that the legislation fixes America’s failed immigration system.

“I am deeply concerned about the numerous loopholes we have found in this legislation. They are more than technical errors, but rather symptoms of a fundamentally flawed piece of legislation that stands no chance of actually fixing our broken immigration system,” Sessions said. “Many of the loopholes are indicative of a desire not to have the system work.”

For example, one loophole in the “enforcement trigger” fails to require the U.S. VISIT system – the biometric border check-in/check-out system established by Congress in 1996, but never implemented – to be fully functioning before new worker or amnesty programs begin. Without the system in place, the U.S. has no method of ensuring that workers and their families do not overstay their visas.

Another flaw in the legislation prevents the benefits of merit-based immigration from taking full effect until 2016. Until then, chain migration into the U.S. will actually triple, compared to a disproportionately low increase in skill-based immigration. As a result, the merit-based system in the bill is only a shell of what it should have been.

A third loophole in the bill allows immigrants to avoid demonstrating a proficiency in English for more than a decade. Illegal aliens are not required to learn English to receive full “probationary benefits” of citizenship. Passing a basic English test is only required for the third Z-visa renewal, twelve years after amnesty is granted.

Sessions will highlight many of the loopholes contained in the list this week during Senate debate on the immigration bill.

A full list of the 20 loopholes is attached.




20 Loopholes in the Senate Immigration Bill


Loophole 1 – Legal Status Before Enforcement:

Amnesty benefits do not wait for the “enforcement trigger.” After filing an application and waiting 24 hours, illegal aliens will receive full “probationary benefits,” complete with the ability to legally live and work in the U.S., travel outside of the U.S. and return, and their own social security card. Astonishingly, if the trigger is never met and amnesty applications are therefore never “approved,” the probationary benefits granted to the illegal alien population never expire, and the new social security cards issued to the illegal alien population are not revoked. [See pp. 1, 290-291, & 315].

Loophole 2 – U.S. VISIT Exit Not In Trigger:

The “enforcement trigger,” required to be met before the new temporary worker program begins, does not require that the exit portion of U.S. VISIT system – the biometric border check-in/check-out system first required by Congress in 1996 that is already well past its already postponed 2005 implementation due date – to be in place before new worker or amnesty programs begin. Without the U.S. VISIT exit portion, the U.S. has no method to ensure that workers (or their visiting families) do not overstay their visas. Our current illegal population contains 4 to 5.5 million visa overstays, therefore, we know that the U.S. VISIT exit component is key to a successful new temporary worker program. [See pp. 1-2].

Loophole 3 – Trigger Requires No More Agents, Beds, or Fencing Than Current Law:

The “enforcement trigger” does not require the Department of Homeland Security to have detention space sufficient to end “catch and release” at the border and in the interior. Even after the adoption of amendment 1172, the trigger merely requires the addition of 4,000 detention beds, bringing DHS to a 31,500 bed capacity. This is far short of the 43,000 beds required under current law to be in place by the end of 2007, or the additional 20,000 beds required later in the bill. Additionally, the bill establishes a “catch, pay, and release” program. This policy will benefit illegal aliens from countries other than Mexico that are caught at the border, then can post a $5,000 bond, be released and never show up for deportation hearings. Annual failure to appear rates for 2005 and 2006, caused in part by lack of detention space, doubled the 2004 rate (106,000 – 110,000 compared with 54,000). Claims that the bill “expands fencing” are inaccurate. The bill only requires 370 miles of fencing to be completed, while current law already mandates that more than 700 miles be constructed [See pp. 1-2, & 10-11, and EOIR’s FY2006 Statistical Yearbook, p. H2, and The Secure Fence Act of 2004].

Loophole 4 -- Three Additional Years Worth of Illegal Aliens Granted Status, Treated Preferentially To Legal Filers:

Aliens who broke into the country illegally a mere 5 months ago, are treated better than foreign nationals who legally applied to come to the U.S. more than two years ago. Aliens who can prove they were illegally in the U.S. on January 1, 2007, are immediately eligible to apply from inside the U.S. for amnesty benefits, while foreign nationals that filed applications to come to the U.S. after May 1, 2005 must start the application process over again from their home countries. Last year’s bill required illegal aliens to have been here before January 7, 2004 to qualify for permanent legal status. [See pp. 263, 282, & 306].

Loophole 5 – Completion of Background Checks Not Required For Probationary Legal Status:

Legal status must be granted to illegal aliens 24 hours after they file an application, even if the aliens have not yet “passed all appropriate background checks.” (Last year’s bill gave DHS 90 days to check an alien’s background before any status was granted). No legal status should be given to any illegal alien until all appropriate background checks are complete. [See pp. 290].

Loophole 6 – Some Child Molesters Are Still Eligible:

Some aggravated felons – those who have sexually abused a minor – are eligible for amnesty. A child molester who committed the crime before the bill is enacted is not barred from getting amnesty if their conviction document omitted the age of the victim. The bill corrects this loophole for future child molesters, but does not close the loophole for current or past convictions. [See p. 47: 30-33, & p. 48: 1-2]

Loophole 7 – Terrorism Connections Allowed, Good Moral Character Not Required:

Illegal aliens with terrorism connections are not barred from getting amnesty. An illegal alien seeking most immigration benefits must show “good moral character.” Last year’s bill specifically barred aliens with terrorism connections from having “good moral character” and being eligible for amnesty. This year’s bill does neither. Additionally, bill drafters ignored the Administration’s request that changes be made to the asylum, cancellation of removal, and withholding of removal statutes in order to prevent aliens with terrorist connections from receiving relief. [Compare §204 in S. 2611 from the 109th Congress with missing §204 on p. 48 of S.A. 1150, & see missing subsection (5) on p. 287 of S.A. 1150].

Loophole 8 – Gang Members Are Eligible:

Instead of ensuring that members of violent gangs such as MS 13 are deported after coming out of the shadows to apply for amnesty, the bill will allow violent gang members to get amnesty as long as they “renounce” their gang membership on their application. [See p. 289: 34-36].

Loophole 9 – Absconders Are Eligible:

Aliens who have already had their day in court – those subject to final orders of removal, voluntary departure orders, or reinstatement of their final orders of removal – are eligible for amnesty under the bill. The same is true for aliens who have made a false claim to citizenship or engaged in document fraud. More than 636,000 alien fugitives could be covered by this loophole. [See p. 285:19-22 which waives the following inadmissibility grounds: failure to attend a removal proceeding; final orders of removal for alien smuggling; aliens unlawfully present after previous immigration violations or deportation orders; and aliens previously removed. This appears to conflict with language on p. 283:40-41. When a direct conflict appears in a statute, the statue is interpreted by the courts to the benefit of the alien.].

Loophole 10 – Learning English Not Required For A Decade:

Illegal aliens are not required to demonstrate any proficiency in English for more than a decade after they are granted amnesty. Learning English is not required for an illegal alien to receive probationary benefits, the first 4-year Z visa, or the second 4-year Z visa. The first Z visa renewal (the second 4-year Z visa) requires only that the alien demonstrate an “attempt” to learn English by being “on a waiting list for English classes.” Passing a basic English test is required only for a second Z visa renewal (the third 4-year Z visa), and even then the alien only has to pass the test “prior to the expiration of the second extension of Z status” (12 years down the road). [See pp. 295-296].

Loophole 11 – Earned Income Tax Credit Will Cost Taxpayers Billions In Just 10 Years:

Current illegal aliens and new guest workers will be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, a refundable tax credit designed to encourage American citizens and legal permanent residents to work. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that this loophole will cost the U.S. taxpayer up to $20 billion dollars in just the first 10 years after the bill’s enactment. To be consistent with the intent of the 1996 welfare reforms – which limited new immigrants from receiving public benefits until they had been legal permanent residents for five years – the bill should withhold EITC eligibility from amnestied aliens until they become legal permanent residents. Closing this loophole will save the taxpayers billions of dollars. [See p. 293 after S.A. 1190 was adopted, p. 307, p. 315, §606. All that is required for EITC eligibility is a social security number and resident alien status. Nothing in the bill’s tax provisions limit EITC eligibility. The issuance of social security numbers to aliens as soon as they apply for amnesty will ensure they are able to qualify for the EITC.]

Loophole 12 – Affidavits From Friends Accepted As Evidence:

Records from day-labor centers, labor unions, and “sworn declarations” from any non-relative (acquaintances, friends, coworkers, etc) are to be accepted as evidence that the illegal alien has satisfied the bill’s amnesty requirements. This low burden of proof will invite fraud and more illegal immigration – even aliens who are not yet in the U.S. will likely meet this burden of proof. DHS will not have the resources to examine whether the claims contained in the “sworn declarations” of the alien’s friends (that the alien was here prior to January 1, 2007 and is currently employed) are actually valid. [See p. 293: 13-16].

Loophole 13 – Taxpayer Funded Legal Counsel and Arbitration:

Free legal counsel and the fees and expenses of arbitrators will be provided to aliens that have been working illegally in agriculture. The U.S. taxpayer will fund the attorneys that help these individuals fill out their amnesty applications. Additionally, if these individuals have a dispute with their employer over whether they were fired for “just cause,” DHS will “pay the fee and expenses of the arbitrator.” [See p. 339:37-41, & p. 332: 37-38.]

Loophole 14 – In-State Tuition and Student Loans:

In-state tuition and other higher education benefits, such as Stafford Loans, will be made available to current illegal aliens that are granted initial “probationary” status, even if the same in-state tuition rates are not offered to all U.S. citizens. This would normally violate current law (8 U.S.C. §1623) which mandates that educational institutions give citizens the same postsecondary education benefits they offer to illegal aliens. [See p. 321: 8-31].

Loophole 15 – Inadequacy of the Merit System:

The “merit system,” designed to shift the U.S. green card distribution system to attract higher skilled workers that benefit the national interest, is only a shell of what it should have been. Though the merit system begins immediately, it will not increase the percentage of high skilled immigrants coming to the United States until 2016, 8 years after enactment. Of the 247,000 green cards dedicated to the merit based system each year for the first 5 years, 100,000 green cards will be reserved for low-skilled guest workers (10,000) and for clearing the current employment based green card backlog (90,000). From 2013 to 2015, the number of merit based green cards drops to 140,000, and of that number, 100,000 green cards are still reserved each year for low-skilled guest workers (10,000) and for clearing the current employment based green card backlog (90,000). Even after 2015, when the merit system really begins (in 2016) by having 380,000 green cards annually, 10,00 green cards will be reserved specifically for low skilled workers, and points will be given for many characteristics that are not considered “high-skilled.” For example, 16 points will be given for aliens in “high demand occupations” which includes janitors, maids, food preparation workers, and groundskeepers. [See p.260: 25 – p. 261: 20, p. 262, & The Department of Labor’s list of “occupations with the largest job growth” available at www.bls.gov/emp/emptab3.htm].


Loophole 16 – Visas For Individuals That Plan To Overstay:

The new “parent” visa contained in the bill which allows parents of citizens, and the spouses and children of new temporary workers, to visit a worker in the United States is not only a misnomer, but also an invitation for high rates of visa overstays. This new visa specifically allows the spouse and children of new temporary workers who intend to abandon their residence in a foreign country, to qualify to come to the U.S. to “visit.” The visa requires only a $1,000 bond, which will be forfeited when, not if, family members of new temporary workers decide to overstay their 30 day visit. Workers should travel to their home countries to visit their families, not the other way around. [See p. 277:1 – 33, and p. 276: 38-43].

Loophole 17 – Chain Migration Tippled Before Being Eliminated:

Though the bill will eventually eliminate chain migration (relatives other than spouses and children of citizens and legal permanent residents), it will not have full effect until 2016. Until then, chain migration into the U.S. will actually triple, from approximately 138,000 chain migrants a year (equal to 14% of the 1 million green cards the U.S. currently distributes on an annual basis) to approximately 440,000 chain migrants a year (equal to 45% of the 1 million green cards the U.S. currently distributes on an annual basis). [See pp. 260:13, p. 270: 29 – pp. 271: 17]

Loophole 18 – Back Taxes Not Required:

Last year’s bill required illegal aliens to prove they had paid three of their last five years of taxes to get amnesty. This year, payment of back taxes is not required for amnesty. The bill requires taxes to be paid at the time of application for a green card, but at that time, only proof of payment of Federal taxes (not state and local) is required for the years the alien worked on a Z visa, not the years the alien has already worked illegally in the United States. Though Senator McCain’s S.A. 1190, adopted by voice vote, claimed to “require undocumented immigrants receiving legal status to pay owed back taxes,” the amendment actually only required proof of payment of taxes for “any year during the period of employment required by subparagraph (D)(i).” Since the bill does not contain a subparagraph (D)(i), nor require any past years of employment as a prerequisite for amnesty, the amendment essentially only requires proof of payment of taxes for future work in the U.S., not payment of “back taxes.” [See p. 307, and p. 293 as altered by S.A. 1190, amendment p. 2: 19-20.]

Loophole 19 – Social Security Credits Allowed For Some Illegal Work Histories:

Aliens who came to the U.S. on legal visas, but overstayed their visas and have been working in the U.S. for years, as well as illegal aliens who apply for Z visa status but do not qualify, will be able to collect social security credits for the years they worked illegally. Under the bill, if an alien was ever issued a social security account number – all work-authorized aliens who originally came on legal visas receive these – the alien will receive Social Security credits for any “quarters of coverage” the alien worked after receiving their social security account number. Because the bill requires social security account numbers to be issued “promptly” to illegal aliens as soon as they are granted “any probationary benefits based upon application [for Z status]” (these benefits are granted 24 hours after the application is filed), an illegal alien who is denied Z visa status but continues to work illegally in the U.S. will accumulate Social Security credits. [See pp. 316:8 – 16, and pp. 315: 32-39]

Loophole 20 – Criminal Fines Not Proportional To Conduct:

The criminal fines an illegal alien is required to pay to receive amnesty are less than the bill’s criminal fines for paperwork violations committed by U.S. citizens, and can be paid by installment. Under the bill, an illegal alien must pay a $1,000 criminal fine to apply for a Z visa, and a $4,000 fine to apply for a green card. Eighty percent of those fines can be paid on an installment plan. Under the bill’s confidentiality provisions, someone who improperly handles or uses information on an alien’s amnesty application can be fined $10,000. Administration officials suggest that the bill’s “criminal fines are proportionate to the criminal conduct.” Why, then, is the fine for illegally entering, using false documents to work, and live one-tenth the fine for a paperwork violation committed by a government official? [See p. 287: 34, p. 317: 9, p. 315:6-8, & remarks made by Secretary Gutierrez on Your World with Neil Cavuto, 4:00 May 31, 2007]
 
First off I can't even add the direct .GOV link anymore because when you do that it says it doesn't exsist. The link I provided is for Sen. Jeff Sessions .GOV site that you can see the story from the 4th of this month.

This should be one of the MOST IMPORTANT topics you have read in a while. What is included in this "Immigration Bill" is beyond understanding. Not only it is total amnesty but a PARDON for HARDCORE CRIMINALS! This is the attempted DEATH of the United States of America.

Now If were to make a claim that there would be included in a bill to allow CHILD MOLESTERS, GANG MEMBERS, and TERRORISTS to become American citizens you would not believe me. I wouldn't believe me. Understand what I posted for you comes not from a political site or one of Alex Jones' sites. It's from a Senator who has some serious courage to share this with the public. It comes from a .GOV site. These are parts of this bill. All of the points made are sourced and you can read it for youself. It's not an OPINION but FACT!

Please read this and forward it to everyone you know. Thank you.
 
cottonzway said:
The apathy of some people is simply stunning....

I'm not apathetic, I just don't see it as a 'DEATH OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA' type issue. Right now the border is pretty much open, and all sorts of people come through. If this bill passes little will change; if it doesn't pass nothing will change.

How does the USA get killed in this deal? Both paths lead to a similar if not identical outcome.

-DBTrek
 
I've heard various radio hosts point out that the illegals after the amnesty do not have to pay income taxes at all, is this true? If so this bill is every bit as bad as the end of the United States. I already know that it is a deliberate attempt to ruin the Country 3 of the senators involved have admitted this in one fashion or another. If only the quotes were more readily available and I could remember them by name I'd post them. ..As if anyone with a brain needs to see them.. to realize how obviously deliberately messed up the bill is.
 
The Hawk said:
I've heard various radio hosts point out that the illegals after the amnesty do not have to pay income taxes at all, is this true? If so this bill is every bit as bad as the end of the United States. I already know that it is a deliberate attempt to ruin the Country 3 of the senators involved have admitted this in one fashion or another. If only the quotes were more readily available and I could remember them by name I'd post them. ..As if anyone with a brain needs to see them.. to realize how obviously deliberately messed up the bill is.

So we're still left with the question of how a 'messed up' bill will be the death of the country, but doing nothing will not be. We should also be asking ourselves how the country managed to survive for the last 230+ years without immigration being a major concern for anyone, yet somehow during the past two years certain segments of society have decided it's now a critical issue.

Sort of like the way Saddam Hussein quietly sat in a no-fly zone for a dozen years without much press . . . but in 2001 he suddenly became a major threat that had to be dealt with right away.

I sense America's puppet strings being pulled.

-DBTrek
 
It's easier to repopulate a country with morons, illiterates, and the criminal element, than to control thinking, educated, law abiding people who are tired of being lied to, and swindled out of their money.

This country is being balkanized by design. We have the two headed hydra known as the two party system to thank for over 80 years of betrayal.

What better way to get people to accept a lesser standard of living, than to import people who WILL accept ANY standard of living.

That is what America is going to become in the next 10 years or less.
 
Tommy Allison said:
It's easier to repopulate a country with morons, illiterates, and the criminal element, than to control thinking, educated, law abiding people who are tired of being lied to, and swindled out of their money.

This country is being balkanized by design. We have the two headed hydra known as the two party system to thank for over 80 years of betrayal.

What better way to get people to accept a lesser standard of living, than to import people who WILL accept ANY standard of living.

That is what America is going to become in the next 10 years or less.

I don't know if it's as sinister as all that. There are economic reasons for leaving the border wide open. Just as outlawing slavery devastated the economy of the South after the Civil War (and the South is still an economic backwater), cracking down on illegals that we exploit at minimum and sub-minimum wage would deal a serious blow to our economy.

Political candidates win or lose elections based on campaign money. The businesses that exploit the illegal labor provide a huge chunk of that money. Therefore politicians are loathe to bite the hand that feeds them by cracking down on corporate America's cheapest labor force.

We don't need to be 'Balkanized' for easy control. American's are already extremely easy to control, as recent events have demonstrated.

-DBTrek
 
When I make a statement like “this is the death of our country” I am doing so because it is and I am not trying to add to the effect. This is largest dagger to sovereignty of the US. The other issues that this bill that allow tax amnesty and financial issues probably speak even more to the destruction of this country. I focused more on the outright ghoulish parts because that is clear proof of HIGH TREASON against the United States.

Just in the bill you can see wickedness that nobody would believe if it had not come out and shown where in the bill you could find these issues. I find it unbelievable that any American, regardless of their politics would put in an immigration bill to allow violent criminals and sexual predators to get amnesty. Those who wrote that in the bill are sick degenerates that need to be kicked out of government and tried in a court of law. They aren’t fit to serve me fries let alone make decisions like this. Only a crazed, hardcore criminal would even suggest something like that in law. It is what it is though, it’s in the bill and the reality is these people need to be dealt with criminal charges.

This bill will destroy our country on just about every front. Everything is already in place (in law) for dealing with extreme violence in the streets. Marshall Law will be imposed and there will be a war against the American people. This will speed up loss of all of our rights and our borders will no longer exist. The “NAU” will be formed, our currency will be moved to the “Amero”, and our country will be lost for good. Hell on earth.
 
cottonzway said:
When I make a statement like “this is the death of our country” I am doing so because it is and I am not trying to add to the effect.

You obviously feel very passionately about it. I don't think it's the 'death' of the country, but that's because many of the problems you find in the bill are in effect right now. We have criminal elements coming across the border and living here just as we have for the last 230+ years. Is the country dead now?

Just in the bill you can see wickedness that nobody would believe if it had not come out and shown where in the bill you could find these issues.

I wish I could actually see where in the bill these things are written. I've found links to the full text of the bill, but the text is all on one continous page. There are no page numbers for me to reference. I question the honesty of Jeff Sessions because he uses a lot of phrases that are open to wide interpretation when describing the bill. For example:

Loophole 6 – Some Child Molesters Are Still Eligible:

Some aggravated felons – those who have sexually abused a minor – are eligible for amnesty. A child molester who committed the crime before the bill is enacted is not barred from getting amnesty if their conviction document omitted the age of the victim. The bill corrects this loophole for future child molesters, but does not close the loophole for current or past convictions. [See p. 47: 30-33, & p. 48: 1-2]

What does he mean by past convicted child molesters whose "conviction document(s) omitted the age of the victim"?
How many people fall in this category?
Under what circumstances are victims ages omitted from court documents? Are we talking about predators here, or 19-year olds that had sex with their 17-year old girlfriends?
I'd like to know more details before getting all worked up over something that's been obviously worded to incite my emotions.

Loophole 8 – Gang Members Are Eligible:

Instead of ensuring that members of violent gangs such as MS 13 are deported after coming out of the shadows to apply for amnesty, the bill will allow violent gang members to get amnesty as long as they “renounce” their gang membership on their application. [See p. 289: 34-36].

When the US started deporting MS13 members back to Central America the gang's power increased a tenfold. Watch Lisa Ling's National Geographic Explorer special on MS-13 for more info on this. Having said that, what's the issue with an ex gang member becoming a citizen if they have indeed stopped their criminal activities?
Are we going to pass a rule that someone who has been in a gang at any point in their life can never be a US citizen?
How will we be able to tell whether they've been in a gang or not?
This entire section sounds silly and un-enforceable.

"Loophole 7 – Terrorism Connections Allowed, Good Moral Character Not Required:

Illegal aliens with terrorism connections are not barred from getting amnesty. An illegal alien seeking most immigration benefits must show “good moral character.” Last year’s bill specifically barred aliens with terrorism connections from having “good moral character” and being eligible for amnesty. This year’s bill does neither. Additionally, bill drafters ignored the Administration’s request that changes be made to the asylum, cancellation of removal, and withholding of removal statutes in order to prevent aliens with terrorist connections from receiving relief."

The real complaint here seems to be that this new Bill doesn't have something in it that last year's Bill did. Obviously, if we catch anyone (even a citizen) with "terror connections" they're going to be detained and questioned (at the very least).
This is an example of a politician being dishonest and trying to panic people in to thinking that the proposed bill specifically makes allowances to allow people with terror connections to become citizens. Observe the hand of big brother, pulling the puppet strings and panicking the populace.


They aren’t fit to serve me fries let alone make decisions like this.

That pretty much sums up the whole government.

It is what it is though, it’s in the bill and the reality is these people need to be dealt with criminal charges.

Making the proposals of Bills a crime is a little extreme, don't you think? This isn't the Cold War Era Soviet Union.

This bill will destroy our country on just about every front.

Nope. It's just another ineffective bill that's being spun by one politician for emotional effect. This Bill will come and go just like the PATRIOT Act, just like the FISA courts being bypassed for wiretaps, just like the Imminent Domain decision of the Supreme Court . . . and nothing will change.

Americans will stay fat and happy on their couches watching season 57 of American Idol and munching on their biggie fries. Every now and the the government will spit out a bunch of alarmist propoganda to get the people worked in to a frenzy over some issue or another . . . and then we're back to the couches!

-DBTrek
 
cottonzway said:
I find it unbelievable that any American, regardless of their politics would put in an immigration bill to allow violent criminals and sexual predators to get amnesty. .
So does everyone else, that's the point.

The PTB don't want to change the border situation, but they have to look like they do for PR reasons. They simply write their bill with so much stupid crap like that in it that they know it will never be passed, and the status quo remains unchanged.
 
subject x said:
So does everyone else, that's the point.

The PTB don't want to change the border situation, but they have to look like they do for PR reasons. They simply write their bill with so much stupid crap like that in it that they know it will never be passed, and the status quo remains unchanged.

That is a cop out though. There were despicable parts of the Patriot Act yet it passed. Hell, the Military Commission Act HR 6166 suspends Habeas Corpus. The disgusting people who run this country WANTED those parts in and the fact that it was defeated is a testament to the growing number of American people who are fighting tyranny in this country.
 
cottonzway said:
The disgusting people who run this country WANTED those parts in and the fact that it was defeated is a testament to the growing number of American people who are fighting tyranny in this country.

Are we fighting tyranny in this country now?

Show me where to sign up.

:p

-DBTrek
 
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