9/11 and alien technology implications.

[Anders Lilkaer]

The alledged theory that rumors implies is the case about 9/11 as being a so-called "inside-job" seems to trigger some conflicting implications toward the also alledged thesis about the US goverment withholding alien technology such as Zero Point energy, the so-called "free energy" source.

Why would US gov. which is in possesion of such radical technology which would replace the fossil fuel need, betray its citizens in the most repulsive manner, go gain the exact thing that is to them superfluous?

Would it make sense to believe that because the new technology isn't quite ready yet, they would be in the need of oil for the years to come until the thechnology is released ?

 

[cottonzway]

I am confused on your points. What exactly does the 9/11 events and these claims have to do with each other? You aren't making the "space beam" claim that clear disinfo agents made are you? If you are not then I am not sure how you are linking the two together. 9/11 had NOTHING to do with alien technology and EVERYTHING to do with the profits of the military industral complex and a loss of civil liberties to Americans.

 

[Anders Lilkaer]

I'll try to specify then.

I totally agree that there are several motives involved when us do warfare, such as gaining profit in the industries who produce the resources needed in such an event.
If the conspiracy theory about 911 as an inside -job planned by the US gov. to legitimate the war >on terror / after oil< was true, the theory about the us. gov keeping technology that would forever abandon the need of fossil fuel would'nt be as plausible then. There would be no need to "legitimate" a search for oil, because the energy resource was already there(as in alien technology/Zero Point Energy).

 

[cottonzway]

Well I think the two are on totally different shelves at the store and not even in the same isle. The reasons why you don't see such technology (regardless of origin) is because there is not $$$ to be made like there is in oil. The people who own/run the world will not allow such technologies to come out if they could not be the ones profitting from the technology. That subject has everything to do with the profit of the big business. I still don't see how the two even are together still. We are a socialist world now so the profit goes before the "cause" to humanity for better, safer, cleaner, and more effecent technologies.

 

[Anders Lilkaer]

So are you really indicating that the urge to make temporary profit on oil, has a higher priority for the world leaders, who they might be, than the goal of having a still habitable earth in 50 years? Do they ignore the thread of CO2 polution, for the sake of making oil-money? I surely understand the the oil is at the center of the global power-balance, and that skipping this source and make the world go around on "free" energy could cause the whole infrastructure of the world to collapse in some horror scenario, but it is alledged that the one who are in possesion of this source IS in fact the gov., so why can't they capitalize the energy source?

 

[cottonzway]

So are you really indicating that the urge to make temporary profit on oil, has a higher priority for the world leaders, who they might be, than the goal of having a still habitable earth in 50 years? Do they ignore the thread of CO2 polution, for the sake of making oil-money? I surely understand the the oil is at the center of the global power-balance, and that skipping this source and make the world go around on "free" energy could cause the whole infrastructure of the world to collapse in some horror scenario, but it is alledged that the one who are in possesion of this source IS in fact the gov., so why can't they capitalize the energy source?

To answer that as simply as I can....YES!!!

You are talking about total sociopaths here. To put it in prospective governments around the world killed roughly 200,000,000 people last centurt alone. The people who own these oil cartels write books calling for 80% world population reduction. These are very sick and degenerative people who not only want the profits but the power as well. These ghouls will do anything for that.

BTW, the "CO2 polution" (i.e. Global Warming) is a hoax on it's face. CO2 does not kill our planet but is a life accellerant. The whole "movement" is to get a global carbon tax. It's just a slick way to fleece people out of money.

 

[CapnG]

CO2 does not kill our planet but is a life accellerant.

Please stop touting this Alex Jones mantra, it's counter-spin nonesense. Co2 IS a toxin. But then again, so is oxygen. If I lock someone in a room and pump in pure O2 they'll die, simple as that. Toxicity isn't a matter of "what" it's a matter of "how much". This is not the pleistociene era and modern plants have evolved to make do with less Co2, so sure they might like a little more but give them too much and they will die. Also the notion that plants do better in warmer climes is equally false. Plants that are used to warmer weather do better, those that aren't die. The end result is widespread drought (I can't wait to hear some ultra-right spin doctor telling me drought is good...).

Are we at toxicity yet? I dunno. Should we implement a do-nothing carbon tax to try and resolve it? Hell no. Where does that leave us? Beats me. But if there really is super-secret alien energy technology being horded away somewhere you can bet we'll never see so much as a glimpse of it until every last drop of oil has been sucked from the ground and sold.

What's more, there's no reason to believe that if such technologies do exist that they aren't being used right now in top secret military facilities, deep underground to provide power and lighting and all the necessities.

Money and power are the engines that drive this world. Common people like us? We're nothing, just breeders.

 

[cottonzway]

Please stop touting this Alex Jones mantra, it's counter-spin nonesense. Co2 IS a toxin. But then again, so is oxygen. If I lock someone in a room and pump in pure O2 they'll die, simple as that. Toxicity isn't a matter of "what" it's a matter of "how much". This is not the pleistociene era and modern plants have evolved to make do with less Co2, so sure they might like a little more but give them too much and they will die. Also the notion that plants do better in warmer climes is equally false. Plants that are used to warmer weather do better, those that aren't die. The end result is widespread drought (I can't wait to hear some ultra-right spin doctor telling me drought is good...).

Are we at toxicity yet? I dunno. Should we implement a do-nothing carbon tax to try and resolve it? Hell no. Where does that leave us? Beats me. But if there really is super-secret alien energy technology being horded away somewhere you can bet we'll never see so much as a glimpse of it until every last drop of oil has been sucked from the ground and sold.

What's more, there's no reason to believe that if such technologies do exist that they aren't being used right now in top secret military facilities, deep underground to provide power and lighting and all the necessities.

Money and power are the engines that drive this world. Common people like us? We're nothing, just breeders.

Meh, no “mantra” needed to explain very basic issues. These are BASIC things people learn in the 6th grade. C02 breeds life. It is “oxygen” to plant life. Thus the more CO2 the of the stuff “we” breathe to live. Again, basic stuff. I’m not talking about pollution because that is a different story. My point about Carbon Dioxide is that it causes life.

This “movement” is based on a carbon tax that is global. It’s no different then some goon walking up to you and in a cartoonish fashion pick you up by your feet and shake you until the dollars and cents fell out of your pocket. The Earth is getting hotter, there is serious eco issues going on, but the ANSWER to this is not to pay a global tax on your carbon footprint. It’s a slick fraud.

 

[CapnG]

My point about Carbon Dioxide is that it causes life.

If that's true then why is Venus a barren wasteland? It's both Co2 heavy and much hotter than we are. As I said, toxicity is about "how much" and not "what", a concept I would consider basic, 6th grade knowledge.

The Earth is getting hotter, there is serious eco issues going on, but the ANSWER to this is not to pay a global tax on your carbon footprint.

Something with which I am in full agreement (and have said so many times). Even if the most screaming alarmist's scenario was true, the carbon tax would do nothing (besides redirect even more wealth out the pockets of the populace into the vaults of the wealthy).

 

[Rick Deckard]

So are you really indicating that the urge to make temporary profit on oil, has a higher priority for the world leaders, who they might be, than the goal of having a still habitable earth in 50 years? Do they ignore the thread of CO2 polution, for the sake of making oil-money? I surely understand the the oil is at the center of the global power-balance, and that skipping this source and make the world go around on "free" energy could cause the whole infrastructure of the world to collapse in some horror scenario, but it is alledged that the one who are in possesion of this source IS in fact the gov., so why can't they capitalize the energy source?

I doubt that 'the Government' knows anything about 'free energy' - if these technologies exist, then they're in the hands of private groups.

I am absolutely convinced that 'Governments' are simply the public-face of Big Business and that the key people in Governments put the interests of their 'sponsors' ahead of the 'ordinary' people. JFK saw what was happening and paid the ultimate price for acting against it...

 

[musictomyears]

I doubt that 'the Government' knows anything about 'free energy' - if these technologies exist, then they're in the hands of private groups.

I am absolutely convinced that 'Governments' are simply the public-face of Big Business and that the key people in Governments put the interests of their 'sponsors' ahead of the 'ordinary' people. JFK saw what was happening and paid the ultimate price for acting against it...

Yup... 99% of all politicians - and that's from any country - haven't got a clue. And they don't want one either. They are quite content with projecting an image of themselves, an image that allows them to appear competent and concerned with the greater good, even though they often are little more than managers of the status quo.

When you confront an average politician with evidence of global conspiracy and suppression of technology, he or she runs a million miles.