A few things

[nameless]

Ward recently stated that the Valdez book on CM and his recent interviews is a major deal. I totally agree and cannot see what it hasnt been made a big fuss of considering the important facts that blow out alot of the alien bullshit. I also think that a book from Rich and one from Don is long over due.

I would love to see a book which is in effect a cherry picked trail of case files that is a golden thread through the crap and morass of regurgitated shite that passes these days a ufological exposé.

peace

 

[Randall]

Ward recently stated that the Valdez book on CM and his recent interviews is a major deal. I totally agree and cannot see what it hasnt been made a big fuss of considering the important facts that blow out alot of the alien bullshit. I also think that a book from Rich and one from Don is long over due.
I would love to see a book which is in effect a cherry picked trail of case files that is a golden thread through the crap and morass of regurgitated shite that passes these days a ufological exposé.

I can easily imagine that humans could have been responsible for some UADs because cattle rustling, and the killing of animals as a means of instilling fear have been done by humans, and given the amount of money involved in ranching, the value of the land involved, and the business competition, it's the most reasonable theory there is. Between that and natural causes, most of the cases can be explained. A few more may represent acts of poaching for some eastern food based health quack mythology, like what they poach bears for.

Maybe there have even been a few killings as initiation rights into crime circles or some weird cult. But thinking the military is behind it makes so little sense as to be laughable. Apart from some sort of psychological warfare exercise, there are no reasons that they could not have simply made legal purchases. Secrecy could easily have been arranged through a shell company as a third party. Otherwise we're supposed to buy into the idea of mad government scientists flying around in helicopters stealing cattle to slice and dice and recycle to cast blame on aliens. Do you realize just how completely nuts that sounds?

As for any actual alien involvement. Who knows? Although there have been some strange cases, there's certainly insufficient evidence to back up that idea. We can only hypothesize as to why aliens would be interested in cattle. But one thing is fairly certain. They wouldn't be able to simply come down and buy them legally like the military could.

100 + elk die off virtually overnight in New Mexico
within 1 square mile

EDH has been known to affect some cattle.​

 

[nameless]

No. When you look at the facts it's obviously a clandestine operation to find out the localised effects on a population in specific areas and to see what has entered the biological food chain. What would be interesting to find out if there has been any covert or masked activity on humans. If I was a mutilation investigator I would be asking if there had been any visits from 'health visitors' or any unusual screenings.

 

[Mastastic]

Is it possible that the government avoided buying the cattle outright to avoid a paper trail? Word leaking that the government is buying cattle for testing would, in my opinion, create a panic that could damage the beef industry as a whole. What better way to hide this than by having the public constantly hear and read about the crazies that believe their cattle are being picked up by aliens?

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part. The US government in the past hasn't really needed any reason to do things in a way that they simply want them done.

 

[boomerang]

Cattle mutilations are meant by someone to appear as gruesome and mysterious. The government could certainly procure cattle by more mundane means, and an alien civilization capable of pulling this off would most likely have to the capability to catch, test and release unharmed. In other words, it makes no rational sense whatever.

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

Stalking the Herd will address all these scenarios and others as well. As for the government buying cattle, they do... they also rent pasture and raise livestock in specific areas. They've been doing this for decades. For those who can't see any military involvement—how do you explain the hundreds of well-documented chopper sightings (military and civilian types) in and around areas experiencing mutilations? STH addresses all these questions and attempts to analyze the data as objectively as possible, etc

 

[stonehart]

Stalking the Herd will address all these scenarios and others as well. As for the government buying cattle, they do... they also rent pasture and raise livestock in specific areas. They've been doing this for decades. For those who can't see any military involvement—how do you explain the hundreds of well-documented chopper sightings (military and civilian types) in and around areas experiencing mutilations? STH addresses all these questions and attempts to analyze the data as objectively as possible, etc

After the last radio show with you talking about the coming book I cant wait for it as it sounds like a refreshing read. Also as I have confessed before I know very little about this area of the "paranormal".

 

[Wade]

I have to admit my thinking is similar to Boomerangs sentiment as far as government involvement. It would seem cheaper and less work without having to destroy private property and covering it up with all the cloak and dagger stuff by just purchasing land and cattle and monitoring themselves. It's not like BSE is a big secret and whatever testing needed to be done still could be kept from prying eyes ala area 51. Perhaps they went about it the wrong way from the beginning and once they started down that road there was no going back ?

 

[Polterwurst]

100 + elk die off virtually overnight in New Mexico
within 1 square mile

EDH has been known to affect some cattle.​

Terrible. Has anyone heard about the lab results of these animals? I'm no wildlife or disease expert, but with a disease, even if it kills within hours, I would expect the animals to try to reach some trees or bushes for shelter. These mostly look like they just fell where they were standing.