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There's an interesting conversation going on here between you and [USER=5483]@Jeff Davis[/USER], but I also think it's important to differentiate between UFOs and unrelated exotic theories as to what might be mistaken for UFOs. In other words the core subject matter in ufology is UFOs ( alien craft ). Once we start bringing in the idea that the UFO experience is some sort of PSI event linked to alternate realities, we've actually gone completely off the radar where UFOs are concerned, and are talking parapsychology/metaphysics, which in ufology is a subset of related subject matter.

To put this in greater perspective, we could just as easily be talking about some rare natural atmospheric phenomenon that causes clouds to form nearly perfect illuminated disks that seem to move against the wind. That is not a "UFO experience". It's a meteorological experience that has been mistaken for a UFO experience just like a number of other things can be mistaken for a UFO experience, and therefore it's not what a UFO encounter is. So yes we can imagine that some PSI/Alternate Reality ( PSI/AR ) experience can be mistaken as a UFO experience, and a UFO experience could even hypothetically involve facets of PSI/AR, but we have to be careful not to assume that the a UFO = PSI/AR.

To take this a step further. If we're going to evoke PSI/AR as an explanation, we can imagine that pretty much everything is some sort of PSI/AR manifestation. That on it's own is a very interesting idea to ponder, and I've spent a fair bit of time reflecting on it while enjoying the videos and comments posted by other members who are also fascinated by the idea. Without going into a huge amount of detail, it seems safe to say that we as individuals exist and therefore we are real regardless of whether or not our native universe is a subset of other universes, simulated or otherwise, and a PSI experience is only possible if the experiencer has a functioning brain.

<blockquote data-quote="Randall" data-source="post: 242010" data-attributes="member: 2682">There&#039;s an interesting conversation going on here between you and [USER=5483]@Jeff Davis[/USER], but I also think it&#039;s important to differentiate between UFOs and unrelated exotic theories as to what might be mistaken for UFOs. In other words the core subject matter in ufology is UFOs ( alien craft ). Once we start bringing in the idea that the UFO experience is some sort of PSI event linked to alternate realities, we&#039;ve actually gone completely off the radar where UFOs are concerned, and are talking parapsychology/metaphysics, which in ufology is a subset of related subject matter.To put this in greater perspective, we could just as easily be talking about some rare natural atmospheric phenomenon that causes clouds to form nearly perfect illuminated disks that seem to move against the wind. That is not a &quot;UFO experience&quot;. It&#039;s a meteorological experience that has been mistaken for a UFO experience just like a number of other things can be mistaken for a UFO experience, and therefore it&#039;s not what a UFO encounter is. So yes we can imagine that some PSI/Alternate Reality ( PSI/AR ) experience can be mistaken as a UFO experience, and a UFO experience could even hypothetically involve facets of PSI/AR, but we have to be careful not to assume that the a UFO = PSI/AR.To take this a step further. If we&#039;re going to evoke PSI/AR as an explanation, we can imagine that pretty much everything is some sort of PSI/AR manifestation. That on it&#039;s own is a very interesting idea to ponder, and I&#039;ve spent a fair bit of time reflecting on it while enjoying the videos and comments posted by other members who are also fascinated by the idea. Without going into a huge amount of detail, it seems safe to say that we as individuals exist and therefore we are real regardless of whether or not our native universe is a subset of other universes, simulated or otherwise, and a PSI experience is only possible if the experiencer has a functioning brain.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Randall, post: 242010, member: 2682"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]There's an interesting conversation going on here between you and [USER=5483]@Jeff Davis[/USER], but I also think it's important to differentiate between UFOs and unrelated exotic theories as to what might be [I]mistaken[/I] for UFOs. In other words the core subject matter in ufology is UFOs ( alien craft ). Once we start bringing in the idea that the UFO experience is some sort of PSI event linked to alternate realities, we've actually gone completely off the radar where UFOs are concerned, and are talking parapsychology/metaphysics, which in ufology is a subset of related subject matter. To put this in greater perspective, we could just as easily be talking about some rare natural atmospheric phenomenon that causes clouds to form nearly perfect illuminated disks that seem to move against the wind. That is not a "UFO experience". It's a [I]meteorological[/I] experience that has been [I]mistaken[/I] for a UFO experience just like a number of other things can be [I]mistaken[/I] for a UFO experience, and therefore it's not what a UFO encounter [I]is[/I]. So yes we can imagine that some PSI/Alternate Reality ( PSI/AR ) experience can be [I]mistaken[/I] as a UFO experience, and a UFO experience could even hypothetically involve facets of PSI/AR, but we have to be careful not to assume that the a UFO = PSI/AR. To take this a step further. If we're going to evoke PSI/AR as an explanation, we can imagine that pretty much [I]everything[/I] is some sort of PSI/AR manifestation. That on it's own is a very interesting idea to ponder, and I've spent a fair bit of time reflecting on it while enjoying the videos and comments posted by other members who are also fascinated by the idea. Without going into a huge amount of detail, it seems safe to say that we as individuals exist and therefore we are real regardless of whether or not our native universe is a subset of other universes, simulated or otherwise, and a PSI experience is only possible if the experiencer has a functioning brain.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]

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