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America Breaking Up Into Seperate Countries?

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OK, I could not find this news already posted on the Paracast. AND I'm double checking for spelling.......(Gene and Dave understands.)

Russian professor claims the United States will break up by 2010, possibly wind up in another civil war?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html#articleTabs=article

I like the way the reporter says "Is this just a crackpot idea with no scientific evidence?".

Is this just wishful thinking of some hardline anti-Americans? I'm having involuntary flashbacks of the cold war. Bleh!:eek:
 
Shades of The Ottoman Empire's Division.

This clod would like us to think that America is in eminent Doom.

If it is, it is only because of the betrayal at the hands of the Baby Boomer generation of traitor politicians.
 
Looking at the usual pattern of sprawling states throughout the history of humankind, I suppose that the political organization of the land between the Rio Grande and the 49th parallel will eventually be quite a bit different from what it is today; and it probably will be split up into even smaller units than this, unless a certain doctor gets his $3,000,000 to develop that free alien energy technology for all that will keep the cars and planes and the high-tech national security state a-running :)

I sent him my tax refund like he told me to do on The Clueless One's podcast, but I am still waiting for my dividend check to show up :frown:

I do think that predicting the breakup for 2010 is a bit premature. But I am always interested to learn how foreigners view my country and it was kind of cute to see how the Russian gentleman assigned influences and distributed the states into their little blocs. I dare say, for example, that he has not spent much time in Tennessee or South Carolina, or, in fact, anywhere in the South.

Somebody on the Wall Street Journal forums (by the way, if you value hard-hitting commentary don't miss Bill Knell's latest op-ed piece there this week) made a snide comment about how in 2010 Sarah Palin will really be able to see Russia from her house -- but I won't repeat that here.

As a proud Ohioan, however (ha, yes, we do exist, just like other half-wits and lunatics, yay buckeyes) I have to admit that being annexed by Canada -- well, I don't think it might be such a trade doon, mes amis, eh?
 
Yeah what happened to the North American Union? Thats the usual badwagon the conspiracy theorists jump on.
 
I think it's more likely that Russia will suffer the type of civil unrest and regional secession he's predicting.
 
How exactly is Canada supposed to annex the largely rural (and thus well armed) central states? Replacing Coors with Molsen?

I don't think so...

-Mike <8]
 
Well if we break into civil war we could always settle it reality show style. Opposing citizens compete in various challenges and get voted off each week by telephone/internet voting. That would at least keep the violence and damage to a minimum, the problem is that it would be so successful they would keep the war going for years to get as many tv seasons out of it as they can.
 
Madmanmike: you think Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba farmers don't have guns? How do you think they get rid of the grasshoppers? them suckers are over a foot long! :D
 
While it would arguably relieve certain inherent tensions (the most developed nation in the world containing within its borders a number of states culturally on a par with Afghanistan, for instance) the break-up of the US does not serve the interests of capital, therefore it won't happen barring a total collapse of centralised government.
Of course if Palin decides that her only shot at power is to throw in her lot for real with the Alaskan secessionists, things might get entertaining.
 
Kevin Daly said:
Of course if Palin decides that her only shot at power is to throw in her lot for real with the Alaskan secessionists, things might get entertaining.
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Alaska's ass would be grass without the other states in the Union sending them grub. The Eskimos would do fine, but I think the ignorant, racist whiteys would be screwed.
 
AnnetteMarie said:
Madmanmike: you think Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba farmers don't have guns? How do you think they get rid of the grasshoppers? them suckers are over a foot long! :D
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So... Canadian Farmers are going to march on the midwest... Oh boy, you betcha, dat'll work.

For every Canadian Farmer's hunting rifle the midwest has two hunting rifles, a shotgun and four pistols. Never mind the paranoid gun-toting city folk.

The idea is preposterous, even on paper. For someone who was supposed to represent his nations top spy agency, he sure knows nothing about his enemies...

-Mike <8]
 
MADMANMIKE said:
So... Canadian Farmers are going to march on the midwest... Oh boy, you betcha, dat'll work.

For every Canadian Farmer's hunting rifle the midwest has two hunting rifles, a shotgun and four pistols. Never mind the paranoid gun-toting city folk.

The idea is preposterous, even on paper. For someone who was supposed to represent his nations top spy agency, he sure knows nothing about his enemies...

-Mike <8]
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oh, Mike, Mike, Mike. You have a lot to learn about Alberta... think TEXAS with an attitude 8) They have guns there I wouldn't be able to lift. Plus, all that oil money to buy the licenses necessary to own them (however, long as nobody checks the numbers on the guns, one license can cover any number of the same model of rifle, doncha know...)
Seriously, if it came right down to it, we wouldn't want to mess with our cousins below, but if we had to, we would. What would constitute the "had to" part of that statement, I don't know. We tend to sit back a bit and make sure we need to act before we do, and sometimes that can be taken for apathy, or by some, as cowardice. It can also make it harder to resolve something a quicker action may have nipped in the bud, but mostly, Canada really likes to give others the benefit of the doubt.
The preceding statements are strictly the opinion of the writer, and in no way are meant to be taken as gospel...;)
 
I don't know how well armed Canadians are, but having been to Canada years ago and having known several Canooks here in the States, I don't think they'd have a problem taking up arms against the States. Most of them, the ones I've met, don't think too highly of Americans anyway. They think we're arrogant and belitteling(sp?), and for the most part they are right.
Texas, well they probably have a gun to person ratio of 10 to 1 for the whole state. Could this be because they secretly fear a Mexican invasion? I mean an invasion besides those Mexicans jumping the border to work.
I know here in western North Carolina almost everyone is weaponized up their eyeballs.

After considering this for a bit, I just do not see how the US could break up. Even if Washington DC became a glowing pit, there's too much bureaucratic back-ups and chain of command, and too many areas that could become a temporary capital to run the nation.
On the whole, when the nation is threatened, Americans tend to forget they are northern or southern or western, and tend to think in terms of being an American.
Nope, just don't see it.
 
I lived in Russia 10 years ago. This guy sounds like he is projecting a known Russian concern (known in Russia anyways) onto the US. It's the fear that Russia would have to break up to survive or would be forced to by secession. And I don't just mean the breakup of the USSR in the 90s, I mean the break up of the sprawling Russian Federation.

They probably love thinking this would happen to the US. And it probably sounds pretty sensational run through (Putin's) media.
 
exo_doc said:
Texas, well they probably have a gun to person ratio of 10 to 1 for the whole state. Could this be because they secretly fear a Mexican invasion?
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If Texas annexed Mexico I believe they could successfully secede and become a very rich country.
 
exo_doc said:
I don't know how well armed Canadians are, but having been to Canada years ago and having known several Canooks here in the States, I don't think they'd have a problem taking up arms against the States. Most of them, the ones I've met, don't think too highly of Americans anyway. They think we're arrogant and belitteling(sp?), and for the most part they are right.
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I think you may have met some Quebeckers on your visit to Canada. Don't take it the wrong way... They hate us English Canadians just as much as they hate you! :D
 
Anubis said:
I think you may have met some Quebeckers on your visit to Canada. Don't take it the wrong way... They hate us English Canadians just as much as they hate you! :D
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You must be right because it was Quebec I went too (I've been to Windsor too, but I was told that didn't really count as Canada).
 
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