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Are military planes still being scrambled to chase UAP?
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darka1404
Skilled Investigator
As of 2013 yes I think add least 2 f16 Were trailing three black diamond and no not diamonds as in the 117 or b2 I mean diamonds I and three other people were traveling down Highway notice the F-16s there and one of my friends pointed to what they were chasing
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I wonder how much jet fuel the AF/MIC waste every year chasing their own fake ufos, just to maintain the ufo mythology for the few who observe these chases? Maybe @Burnt State knows.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
That type of thinking is only embellishment of military construction of the ufo mythology. What we do know is that, if anything, the military has worked to be more dismissive of case sightings and encounters than supportive.
Do UFO sightings include military escorts of their own craft or chases of unknown craft - sure, that's popular in the literature.
Was the UFO story used for other purposes and did different agents or individuals get tasked with creating some myths like Maury Island - sure, that makes sense. But the idea of wasting fuel for mythmaking really does not bear entertaining does it? That's like suggesting the military makes crop circles and we all know that's an independent civilian's task.
Do you think the NARCAP report I opened this thread with is embellishing the "military construction of ufo mythology" mythology?
Maybe, though it's far from proved, the Cash Landrum case fits the first category in your sentence underscored in blue. Obviously there are great numbers of sightings that fit the second category. I don't know what you mean by either or both categories being "popular in the literature" and what that has to do with the more serious goals of researchers who are not merely seeking popularity in the ufo book trade.
Obviously there are cases that fit that description.
Obviously not, which in itself places in serious question the hypothesis that ufos in the planet's skies since WWII have all been psyops productions of the PTB for some purpose not yet defined in any rational sense or accounted for in any practical terms of how and by whom they were produced.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
no, i think that this is NARCAP's report regarding planes and UAP's. Looking up at planes may indeed entail other things being seen, but as the majority of the Type 2 sightings of planes actually following UAP's occur at night, we also have a lot of limitations here to this narrative.
yes, the Cash-Landrum case is the first one that comes to mind though we have no real concrete proof that a large escort of helicopters was out there that night. Sentry is still working on that angle and it was determined to be virtually impossible to have that many helicopters up there at night as they described given the logistics of the location.
This is a good example of what's popular in the literature - were they escorting their own object or following a UAP?
the word "all" really has no place in the paranormal or UFO discussion as if one thing's for certain there's a multiplicity of possibilities for defining what the UFO conundrum is with cold war psyops being only one. As to what extent it was in operation or how significant its impact on popular culture was, who is to say, but we do know that the UFO has been significantly popularized, dismissed, believed, used as entertainment and investigated with only a sprinkling of serious inquiry in our culture.
Other interesting parts to the report: its acknowledgement of a multiplicity of possibilities for UAP's including plasma and TST; that a lot of this work is based on reports as opposed to specific investigation, making the nature of the inquiry one place removed scientifically from seriousness; and that some pilot reports indicate the belief that some objects were operating under some kind of sentient control (and not just a piece of space trash on re-entry). It's this last part that interests me the most.
Stagger Lee
Paranormal Adept
I've also seen the orange floating ball type- my excitement vanished when the candle in the orb went out, making me realize the object was a Chinese lantern. Not saying that is what you witnessed, just something to keep in mind.
Pigsinzen
Skilled Investigator
I recently moved away from an area (Lake Wales, FL) that's very popular with fossil hunters & while living there we experienced several incidents of orange balls of light. In fact we reported them several times to Nuforc.
Stagger Lee
Paranormal Adept
Again, not saying all orange orbs witnessed in night sky are lanterns- just that it only takes one person to set one off sailing a good distance before they flicker out. One floated a couple hundred feet above my house last summer, watched it from quite a distance wondering what the heck it was- the way it flickered out while passing over my home, made the candle/lantern thing obvious.
Stagger Lee
Paranormal Adept
Actually, I was rather disappointed. For a moment or two I thought I may be witnessing my first UAP.