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Looking further into the adverse reactions for just one symptom of one vaccine ( above ) I found this:

"Over the past four decades, intensive national mass vaccination campaigns have dramatically increased vaccination rates among American children who now are getting 34 doses of 10 different viral and bacterial vaccines before they enter kindergarten. Recent published data in the medical literature suggest increasing numbers of childhood vaccines may be playing a role in the big jump in the number of cases of juvenile diabetes." Source

Diabetes mellitus is a possible adverse reaction listed on the vaccine sheet ( above ). Here's some info about it:
Types of Diabetes Mellitus
http://www.know-vaccines.org/PDF/VaccineInducedJuvenileDiabetes.pdf

Are we still so sure vaccines are "safe"?

If so then maybe read about vasculitis ( another possible adverse reaction ) here: Diseases and Conditions Vasculitis

This documentary seems fairly well balanced

[MEDIA=youtube]wqbH40Y9XJw[/MEDIA]

So the real question it seems isn't whether or not vaccines are safe. They're not. There's always some sort of side effect and some sort of risk. The question is whether or not in the absence of any immediate health problems, individuals and parents should have the right to decide for themselves whether or not to tolerate the side effects and the risk of more damaging complications by taking medication for an illness they don't have, and may never be exposed to, but that has been shown to be statistically beneficial for the community at large in the past.

Personally, I think that unless there is an imminent and serious threat to someone's health, that the choice of whether or not to take medication should be up to the individual rather than legislated by the state. A situation that comes to mind are where children of parents who don't believe in transfusions will die if left untreated. Some would disagree with me, but if the state were to disregard the parents and arbitrarily save the child, I'd have no problem with it. I'd even support having the parents charged with neglect. But vaccinations aren't a life or death situation.

<blockquote data-quote="Randall" data-source="post: 261676" data-attributes="member: 2682">Looking further into the adverse reactions for just one symptom of one vaccine ( above ) I found this:&quot;Over the past four decades, intensive national mass vaccination campaigns have dramatically increased vaccination rates among American children who now are getting 34 doses of 10 different viral and bacterial vaccines before they enter kindergarten. Recent published data in the medical literature suggest increasing numbers of childhood vaccines may be playing a role in the big jump in the number of cases of juvenile diabetes.&quot; <a href="http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Diabetes/juvenilediabetes.aspx" target="_blank"> Source</a>
Diabetes mellitus is a possible adverse reaction listed on the vaccine sheet ( above ).&nbsp; Here&#039;s some info about it:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/guide/types-of-diabetes-mellitus#1" target="_blank">Types of Diabetes Mellitus</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.know-vaccines.org/PDF/VaccineInducedJuvenileDiabetes.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.know-vaccines.org/PDF/VaccineInducedJuvenileDiabetes.pdf</a></li>
</ul>Are we still so sure vaccines are &quot;safe&quot;?If so then maybe read about vasculitis ( another possible adverse reaction ) here: <a href="https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient-Caregiver/Diseases-Conditions/Vasculitis" target="_blank">Diseases and Conditions Vasculitis</a>This documentary seems fairly well balanced[MEDIA=youtube]wqbH40Y9XJw[/MEDIA]
So the real question it seems isn&#039;t whether or not vaccines are safe. They&#039;re not. There&#039;s always some sort of side effect and some sort of risk. The question is whether or not in the absence of any immediate health problems, individuals and parents should have the right to decide for themselves whether or not to tolerate the side effects and the risk of more damaging complications by taking medication for an illness they don&#039;t have, and may never be exposed to, but that has been shown to be statistically beneficial for the community at large in the past.Personally, I think that unless there is an imminent and serious threat to someone&#039;s health, that the choice of whether or not to take medication should be up to the individual rather than legislated by the state. A situation that comes to mind are where children of parents who don&#039;t believe in transfusions will die if left untreated. Some would disagree with me, but if the state were to disregard the parents and arbitrarily save the child, I&#039;d have no problem with it. I&#039;d even support having the parents charged with neglect. But vaccinations aren&#039;t a life or death situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Randall, post: 261676, member: 2682"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Looking further into the adverse reactions for just one symptom of one vaccine ( above ) I found this: [/SIZE][/FONT] [INDENT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]"Over the past four decades, intensive national mass vaccination campaigns have dramatically increased vaccination rates among American children who now are getting 34 doses of 10 different viral and bacterial vaccines before they enter kindergarten. Recent published data in the medical literature suggest increasing numbers of childhood vaccines may be playing a role in the big jump in the number of cases of juvenile diabetes." [/SIZE][/FONT][URL='http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Diabetes/juvenilediabetes.aspx'][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4] Source[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [/INDENT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Diabetes mellitus is a possible adverse reaction listed on the vaccine sheet ( above ). Here's some info about it:[/SIZE][/FONT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][URL='http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/guide/types-of-diabetes-mellitus#1']Types of Diabetes Mellitus[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Arial][URL]http://www.know-vaccines.org/PDF/VaccineInducedJuvenileDiabetes.pdf[/URL][/FONT] [/LIST] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4] Are we still so [I]sure[/I] vaccines are "safe"?[/SIZE] If so then maybe read about vasculitis ( another possible adverse reaction ) here: [URL='https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient-Caregiver/Diseases-Conditions/Vasculitis']Diseases and Conditions Vasculitis[/URL][/FONT] [CENTER][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]This documentary seems fairly well balanced[/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER] [CENTER][MEDIA=youtube]wqbH40Y9XJw[/MEDIA] [/CENTER] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]So the real question it seems isn't whether or not vaccines are safe. They're not. There's always some sort of side effect and some sort of risk. The question is whether or not in the absence of any immediate health problems, individuals and parents should have the right to decide for themselves whether or not to tolerate the side effects and the risk of more damaging complications by taking medication for an illness they don't have, and may never be exposed to, but that has been shown to be statistically beneficial for the community at large in the past. Personally, I think that unless there is an imminent and serious threat to someone's health, that the choice of whether or not to take medication should be up to the individual rather than legislated by the state. A situation that comes to mind are where children of parents who don't believe in transfusions will die if left untreated. Some would disagree with me, but if the state were to disregard the parents and arbitrarily save the child, I'd have no problem with it. I'd even support having the parents charged with neglect. But vaccinations aren't a life or death situation.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]

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