Bigelow & Lethal ET's

[Decker]

Bigelow Aerospace Lethal Extraterrestrial Battle Rumor Exposed​

Dr. Jack Sarfatti, the maverick San Francisco physicist, relates a story he was told about a battle with the aliens.

06/12/2010 11:41 AM CDT




(STARpod.org) -- It sounds like a Hollywood plot for a 21st century remake of Earth versus the Flying Saucers.


San Francisco physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti claims to have heard the rumor while visiting London in 2004, while in the company of Nick Cook, the well known aerospace journalist from the private intelligence publisher Janes Information Group.

"I was asked by the 'CIA' not to pursue the story in 2004, but now Bigelow has (allegedly, it seems) opened Pandora's Box on the story."


Sarfatti came forward with the rumor following a remark made by billionaire space maven Bob Bigelow to the New York Times about the dangers of UFOs:


"People have been killed. People have been hurt. It’s more than observational kind of data." - Bigelow is alleged to have said.


The New York Times interviewed Bigelow about his recent efforts to build a private space station. In the article, Bigelow was quoted about the lethality of the UFO phenomena, but the basis for Bigelow's statement was not pursued.


According to Sarfatti, the rumor of a battle between Bob Bigelow's paramilitary employees and otherworldly beings was provided by a mysterious French woman, who was accompanied by a body guard carrying a mystery briefcase allegedly containing "some kind of 'psychotronic' weapon based on alien ET technology."

You can see Nick Cook in the back to right of the woman in the white hat who told us the story.

Sarfatti says the woman claimed to be part of a semi-secret Paris UFO group, and the woman attributed the story to Jacques Vallee, the internationally famous researcher who is said to have inspired the French UFO researcher Claude Lacombe in Steven Spielberg's classic UFO film Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
It was Sarfatti who got Vallee together with Speilberg via Francis Ford Coppola in 1976 during a meeting of Vallee and Uri Geller with Coppola arranged by Sarfatti.



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Vallee mentions Sarfatti in his Volume 2 of "Forbidden Science."

Sarfatti quickly added, "Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it -- albeit without the details."


Apparently Sarfatti, who in recent years has consulted to Dr. Ron Pandolfi (for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence) on speculative ideas related to reverse engineering hypothetical extraterrestrial technologies, also knows more of this rumor than he is willing to make public.


"I am not divulging details only the general nature of the remarks. In any case Nick Cook heard them also."


In the 1990s, Bob Bigelow funded UFO investigations under a group he founded called the National Institute of Discovery Sciences, also know as NIDS.


Among the many investigations conducted by NIDS was the mysterious case of the so-called Bigelow Skinwalker Ranch in a remote region of Utah, where a variety of paranormal phenomena had been reported.


One experience made public by former NIDS personnel was the report of a nearly invisible being emerging from a tunnel that appeared to float in thin air, which led to speculation of an opening from another world -- a star gate -- built from a spacetime wormhole.


According to Sarfatti's account, the French woman "claimed an actual gun battle at Bigelow Ranch with Bob's paramilitary against aliens out of the wormhole with dead and wounded humans. She was very convincing and Nick Cook heard the strange tale at his private London Club with me and another witness. I debriefed Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi soon after and the story caused a big stir."


Pandolfi and Green are well known for their interest in unusual phenomena and their history of employment with the CIA.


Given the many reports of pilots who have lost their lives pursuing UFOs beyond the safe operating range of their aircraft, Bigelow's comments to the New York Times may have a more mundane explanation.


Until Mr. Bigelow comes forward with a more detailed explanation for his comments about lethal UFO encounters, Sarfatti's expose' of the rumor will only further inflame allegations of a cover-up among the fringe elements of the UFO community.


Copyright (c) 2010 by STARstream Research / -- All rights reserved.




Gary S Bekkum
STARstream Research

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[King Cheetah]

Okay Don, how soon can we expect a DMR show on this and the Skinwalker Ranch in general?

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Bigelow Aerospace Lethal Extraterrestrial Battle Rumor Exposed​

Dr. Jack Sarfatti, the maverick San Francisco physicist, relates a story he was told about a battle with the aliens.

06/12/2010 11:41 AM CDT




(STARpod.org) -- It sounds like a Hollywood plot for a 21st century remake of Earth versus the Flying Saucers.


San Francisco physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti claims to have heard the rumor while visiting London in 2004, while in the company of Nick Cook, the well known aerospace journalist from the private intelligence publisher Janes Information Group.

"I was asked by the 'CIA' not to pursue the story in 2004, but now Bigelow has (allegedly, it seems) opened Pandora's Box on the story."


Sarfatti came forward with the rumor following a remark made by billionaire space maven Bob Bigelow to the New York Times about the dangers of UFOs:


"People have been killed. People have been hurt. It’s more than observational kind of data." - Bigelow is alleged to have said.


The New York Times interviewed Bigelow about his recent efforts to build a private space station. In the article, Bigelow was quoted about the lethality of the UFO phenomena, but the basis for Bigelow's statement was not pursued.


According to Sarfatti, the rumor of a battle between Bob Bigelow's paramilitary employees and otherworldly beings was provided by a mysterious French woman, who was accompanied by a body guard carrying a mystery briefcase allegedly containing "some kind of 'psychotronic' weapon based on alien ET technology."

You can see Nick Cook in the back to right of the woman in the white hat who told us the story.

Sarfatti says the woman claimed to be part of a semi-secret Paris UFO group, and the woman attributed the story to Jacques Vallee, the internationally famous researcher who is said to have inspired the French UFO researcher Claude Lacombe in Steven Spielberg's classic UFO film Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
It was Sarfatti who got Vallee together with Speilberg via Francis Ford Coppola in 1976 during a meeting of Vallee and Uri Geller with Coppola arranged by Sarfatti.



​

Vallee mentions Sarfatti in his Volume 2 of "Forbidden Science."

Sarfatti quickly added, "Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it -- albeit without the details."


Apparently Sarfatti, who in recent years has consulted to Dr. Ron Pandolfi (for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence) on speculative ideas related to reverse engineering hypothetical extraterrestrial technologies, also knows more of this rumor than he is willing to make public.


"I am not divulging details only the general nature of the remarks. In any case Nick Cook heard them also."


In the 1990s, Bob Bigelow funded UFO investigations under a group he founded called the National Institute of Discovery Sciences, also know as NIDS.


Among the many investigations conducted by NIDS was the mysterious case of the so-called Bigelow Skinwalker Ranch in a remote region of Utah, where a variety of paranormal phenomena had been reported.


One experience made public by former NIDS personnel was the report of a nearly invisible being emerging from a tunnel that appeared to float in thin air, which led to speculation of an opening from another world -- a star gate -- built from a spacetime wormhole.


According to Sarfatti's account, the French woman "claimed an actual gun battle at Bigelow Ranch with Bob's paramilitary against aliens out of the wormhole with dead and wounded humans. She was very convincing and Nick Cook heard the strange tale at his private London Club with me and another witness. I debriefed Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi soon after and the story caused a big stir."


Pandolfi and Green are well known for their interest in unusual phenomena and their history of employment with the CIA.


Given the many reports of pilots who have lost their lives pursuing UFOs beyond the safe operating range of their aircraft, Bigelow's comments to the New York Times may have a more mundane explanation.


Until Mr. Bigelow comes forward with a more detailed explanation for his comments about lethal UFO encounters, Sarfatti's expose' of the rumor will only further inflame allegations of a cover-up among the fringe elements of the UFO community.


Copyright (c) 2010 by STARstream Research / -- All rights reserved.




Gary S Bekkum
STARstream Research

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Hi Don,
Which London Club would that be th SFC?

Cheers,
BF

 

[Decker]

I have no idea Blowfish, none at all.

Decker

 

[Anaximander]

We should be shooting these things down. If the target is aware of what other aliens have been doing (coring asses and generally behaving like pervert psychopaths), they'll probably understand our hostility.

I don't like to talk about disclosure, but I don't see it ever happening until the POTUS can stand at the podium and assure us that we now have the capability to effectively deal with the UFO problem.

 

[trainedobserver]

I've always been fascinated by the whole Skinwalker Ranch business, particularly since it is ongoing. I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more intention than it has.

 

[Xylo]

Not much to say here, except that I'm waiting for the novel to come out-so that this story can be classified in the correct manner and put into the fiction section.

 

[trainedobserver]

Not much to say here, except that I'm waiting for the novel to come out-so that this story can be classified in the correct manner and put into the fiction section.

Are you referring to Sarfatti's French woman story or Skinwalker ranch? I think there is just too much to the Skinwalker ranch story to dismiss it as a total fiction.

 

[Xylo]

Are you referring to Sarfatti's French woman story or Skinwalker ranch? I think there is just too much to the Skinwalker ranch story to dismiss it as a total fiction.

The french woman part, though I have heard rumours that the events at the skinwalker ranch were embellished at the least and some events were completely made up.

 

[trainedobserver]

I have heard rumours that the events at the skinwalker ranch were embellished at the least and some events were completely made up.

You should listen to Don's recent show with Chris O'Brien on the subject. It was an excellent show and the questionable nature of some of the data was discussed.

 

[rhcball]

It would be nice if some people got on George Knapp to reveal whatever information related to Skinwalker he promised NIDS he would keep quiet about, considering the organization is more or less shut down. I don't understand why the info is being 'protected.'

 

[Ron Collins]

It would be nice if some people got on George Knapp to reveal whatever information related to Skinwalker he promised NIDS he would keep quiet about, considering the organization is more or less shut down. I don't understand why the info is being 'protected.'

Presumably, the NDA's would exist for a time period even if the originating organization is defunct. I know that if I sign and NDA in business I am bound both by the terms of the NDA and by my professional integrity. Part of that integrity is to adhere to the intent I agreed with when signing the document. I assume it is the same for Knapp. That and Knapp and Bigelow both live and work Las Vegas. Bigelow is uber rich and has a bunch of power there. So as the old maxim goes, you don't poop where you eat.

 

[trainedobserver]

It would be nice if some people got on George Knapp to reveal whatever information related to Skinwalker he promised NIDS he would keep quiet about, considering the organization is more or less shut down. I don't understand why the info is being 'protected.'

It is possible that those folks are still under some sort of contractual obligation to not talk about it I guess. Also, they may feel that talking about it publicly could have some negative impact on their present jobs or careers.

One thing that has come up again and again over the years is the idea that those who get close enough to the UFO phenomena to actually understand what is going on come to realize that it isn't something everyone should know or could stand knowing. It might be something like that. If NIDS really did find something out about what is really going on at the ranch it might be so damn scary it just isn't up for public consumption. Alternatively. what they found might be so mundane and worthless no one wants to talk about it.

 

[justcurious]

If NIDS really did find something out about what is really going on at the ranch it might be so damn scary it just isn't up for public consumption.

Is "non calculable" scary enough to you ?

Ontological content of the post transcribed for the hemi-brained: ironical level of the post on a scale of 10 = 10

 

[trainedobserver]

Is "non calculable" scary enough to you ?

Ontological content of the post transcribed for the hemi-brained: ironical level of the post on a scale of 10 = 10

That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Scary shit is extremely easy to calculate. Will it hurt me? Yes or no? If yes then book. If no then stick around.

 

[justcurious]

That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Scary shit is extremely easy to calculate. Will it hurt me? Yes or no? If yes then book. If no then stick around.

Source ? We're in an (exclusively) rational world after all (or so I'm told), where is the (easy) scary/harmful ratio formula ? I just aspire to learn...
PS: please read the small prints

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Source ? We're in an (exclusively) rational world after all (or so I'm told), where is the (easy) scary/harmful ratio formula ? I just aspire to learn...
PS: please read the small prints

You actually seem to aspire to antagonize by asking for a source where none is needed.

 

[justcurious]

You actually seem to aspire to antagonize by asking for a source where none is needed.

I was hinting at the fact that if you consider the world to be entirely mathematical you should not try to get away with subjective notions. Trained said that "Scary shit is extremely easy to calculate", as I said I just wish to learn. How do I calculate scary ?

 

[trainedobserver]

I was hinting at the fact that if you consider the world to be entirely mathematical you should not try to get away with subjective notions. Trained said that "Scary shit is extremely easy to calculate", as I said I just wish to learn. How do I calculate scary ?

Ok, let's review.

"Will it hurt me? Yes or no?"

You've bored me now. Shame on you.