Billions of habitable worlds in our own galaxy

[Ezechiel]

A stunning claim that 40 percent of our galaxy's 160 billion red dwarf stars have plus-sized Earths orbiting the right distance for liquid water to exist on their surfaces, a condition believed to be necessary for life.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/28/billions-habitable-worlds-in-milky-way-galaxy/#ixzz1qQKu2rzz​

Now, that's what I call disclosure

This should shut up the skeptics and maybe prop up the idea that there are occasional visitors to planet earth. With these kinds of probabilities associated with unidentified aerial phenomenon such as 'phoenix lights', there's no reason why funding shouldn't go to near-earth observation as well as distant world discovery.

Maybe someone decided that it would be a better idea to catalog nearby potential habitable worlds before documenting near earth visitors... If we find out where they live, we might have a chance to fight back

 

[pixelsmith]

fight back?

 

[Sentry]

fight back?

I'm just speculating, but he probably means litigation. Now we have an address for them we can seek legal action against the space people that have been damaging our fields, mutilating our cattle, abducting, probing and implanting our citizens.

 

[Ezechiel]

fight back?

Knowledge is power.

We're at point zero... If we get a better grasp of where the potential nests are we'll get the age of the star, measure atmospheric conditions... etc. Then we can build the proper flyswatter LOL

Looks like forcing these buzzing crafts into discussion is the only way to go

 

[pixelsmith]

why do you think "buzzing crafts" are a threat? if they were a threat, I am pretty sure we would know about it by now.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

I have thought for quite a while that there probably is a kind of ad-hoc slow disclosure going on and it is very likely that the public may be drip-fed info first about the possibility of life elsewhere for quite some time so that people think it is an everyday fact of life. Once it is firmly in the public mind that there must be life on many other planets, things will be one step closer to getting to the point of accepting this ET life may be able to visit here, due to some of this ET life being no doubt millions of years ahead of us?

 

[Ezechiel]

why do you think "buzzing crafts" are a threat? if they were a threat, I am pretty sure we would know about it by now.

We may become a threat to some buzzing crafts once we start catching them near earth.. they might retaliate and thus become threats to us. Depending on their level of advancement, we might last more than a few milliseconds lol

We are no threat to them right now. Thus they can exploit. I see it as a balance of power where we have little right now, if any at all.

You are right in saying that they are not a threat in the sense that they become one only when we have the power to retaliate and survive an attack.

 

[Ezechiel]

I have thought for quite a while that there probably is a kind of ad-hoc slow disclosure going on and it is very likely that the public may be drip-fed info first about the possibility of life elsewhere for quite some time so that people think it is an everyday fact of life. Once it is firmly in the public mind that there must be life on many other planets, things will be one step closer to getting to the point of accepting this ET life may be able to visit here, due to some of this ET life being no doubt millions of years ahead of us?

Reflecting on the last hundred years of exponential technological advances... I'm no longer certain that you need a million years to break Einsteinian limitations. Get a fusion propulsion system up and running and you'll have your transport to Gliese

 

[mike]

I have thought for quite a while that there probably is a kind of ad-hoc slow disclosure going on and it is very likely that the public may be drip-fed info first about the possibility of life elsewhere for quite some time so that people think it is an everyday fact of life. Once it is firmly in the public mind that there must be life on many other planets, things will be one step closer to getting to the point of accepting this ET life may be able to visit here, due to some of this ET life being no doubt millions of years ahead of us?

Its actually a very logical counter to the "demons" answer you see time and time again.
If you read the comments in any given YT vid on UFO's some crank invariably posts, they are not aliens, they are satans hoards trying to fool you.
So getting the horse before the cart so to speak is a smart move.
Establishing that there are other planets that support life is a good way to set the stage

 

[CitizenK]

I think this probably is a drip fed disclosure as postulated. I also think (as said) that IF they were a threat to us we would've already known about this by being taken out or enslaved, etc. Also, as for us learning how to be on even par with them or even seeming to be a threat to them , I do not believe this will come from us building some awesome weapon, instead it will come when all humans realize their true identity and power. (internal/mental power) Once we all own our power again, then we could be potentially dangerous to any number of things including each other...perhaps this is why this portion of our dna isn't yet awake/activated in all of us.

 

[trainedobserver]

...IF they were a threat to us we would've already known about this by being taken out or enslaved, etc.

One particularly disturbing possibility is that there never was a contest to begin with.

Given that UFOs have made appearances throughout history (see Wonders in the Sky) there has been more than enough time and technological advantage on their side to render open conflict completely unnecessary. Their behavioral science would most likely be on par with their physical science, therefore the influence they could have on humans and human society might very well afford them such control that anything that we would consciously recognize as open conflict or enslavement would be crude and inefficient by comparison. It's a chilling thought.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Don't tell me we are just pawns on the intergalactic chessboard! Maybe that is the awful truth that is being kept from us......
Well, who cares if we are secretly enslaved - I still like women, good TV and movies, booze and travel. When the alien overlords start messing with my day to day shit I'll get worried. Until then - where's the remote?

 

[CitizenK]

here here! I'll drink to that my godsmacked friend !
No worries here ...

 

[Ezechiel]

Don't tell me we are just pawns on the intergalactic chessboard! Maybe that is the awful truth that is being kept from us......
Well, who cares if we are secretly enslaved - I still like women, good TV and movies, booze and travel. When the alien overlords start messing with my day to day shit I'll get worried. Until then - where's the remote?

Makes perfect sense and I'm also getting my remote lol.

It'll only get interesting when we can have a piece on the type 1 chessboard. Our current relative importance to the players on the type 1 chessboard is a big zero. Michio Kaku is on the money.

We are effectively quarantined to this planet until our technology evolves to the point where we start competing for ressources used by other type 1 civilizations. Type zeros are not a menace to other type 1 civilizations.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Ezechiel - You are spot on about us being type 0 - Kaku loves to bring that one out at every opportunity and as much as I like the guy I am getting increasingly annoyed with his fence-sitting regarding UFOs. I am almost convinced he thinks there is a real phenomenon and along with the rest of the scientific world (mostly) he is too scared to weigh in. Bring back scientists with gnads!

 

[trainedobserver]

Don't tell me we are just pawns on the intergalactic chessboard!

Doubtful. We probably supply material for Type 1 sitcoms and cartoons though.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Yes of course, pawns would be a promotion...

 

[Ezechiel]

Ezechiel - You are spot on about us being type 0 - Kaku loves to bring that one out at every opportunity and as much as I like the guy I am getting increasingly annoyed with his fence-sitting regarding UFOs. I am almost convinced he thinks there is a real phenomenon and along with the rest of the scientific world (mostly) he is too scared to weigh in. Bring back scientists with gnads!

What irritates me the most about his proposal is that he never addresses what happens when a type 1 or 2 or 3 meets another competing civilization at the same level. No one has ever asked him the question I guess. Vague references to star trek or star wars ... Nothing more.

Logically a type 1 civilization would be more dangerous to a type 0 than a type 2 or higher. The needs of a type 1 being closer to zeros like us.

 

[Ezechiel]

One particularly disturbing possibility is that there never was a contest to begin with.

Given that UFOs have made appearances throughout history (see Wonders in the Sky) there has been more than enough time and technological advantage on their side to render open conflict completely unnecessary. Their behavioral science would most likely be on par with their physical science, therefore the influence they could have on humans and human society might very well afford them such control that anything that we would consciously recognize as open conflict or enslavement would be crude and inefficient by comparison. It's a chilling thought.

That's a huge mistake in ufology, assuming that there is only one entity out there that will always be beyond our technological reach. A one to one relationship (type0-type1) would solve alot of issues but its illogical. A many to many environment is more likely.

In our galaxy you probably have thousands of type zeroes out there some of which are about to spawn type 1 wings. You probably have a few type 1's in our galactic sector already probing out type zeroes like us... keeping tabs on the locals as Stanton Friedman would say lol.

Some fundamental religious types would like this universe to be empty but it is likely buzzing with wild stuff that most of humanity, stuck in its earthly affairs, really has no time and energy for. Current energy conservation reflexes dictate that none should be allocated to affairs that are not deemed a threat to our security. Keeping the lid on is priority number one lol