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Billy Cox riffs-Daddy needs his medicine

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Daddy needs his medicine
Monday, May 14, 2012 at 5:06 by Billy Cox

De Void liked it better when the 1947 Roswell UFO crash was attributed to space aliens. It was a more palatable notion, or at least more benign. Here they were, off-world de Gamas and Magellans, trying hard to tip-toe above a planet newly gutted by primitives, ego and apocalyptic insecurities. The explorers are easing around the edges of the heart of darkness — in this case, New Mexico, blistered by Earth’s first atomic explosion, experimenting with new missile and bomber delivery systems — when suddenly, their lonely vessel strays too close, takes a lightning strike and boom, bodies and techno-treasure litter foreign sands.

Au voir, sweet fiction.

Now we know: It was us all along. The worst, skankiest, most paranoid facets of human impulse, all crammed into a narrative of deceit and treachery aimed at bamboozling our own species. So it’s time we just owned up to it and admitted we’re lowdown web-spinning scumbags, maybe in need of an asteroid fix.

We knew the alien thing was bogus back in 2005 when Nick Redfern published Body Snatchers in the Desert. This is when we learned, according to a description, “the darkest secret of the US Government — that a post-WW2 program used the deformed and crippled bodies of adults and children in biological and nuclear experiments.” Yeah — the Roswell corpses weren’t ETs, but the handiwork of Imperial Japan’s twisted scientists.

Then, last year, Annie Jacobsen informs us in Area 51 that the poor souls recovered from the Roswell desert were surgically deformed victims of Joseph Mengele’s pact with Stalin to terrorize the winners of WWII. That was heinous as hell.

And last week, thanks to former Mutual UFO Network International Director James Carrion, we now learn “the most incredible deception in human history” was actually a Made-in-the-USA counterintelligence stunt designed to get Stalin’s spies to file reports so’s Uncle Sam could crack the Reds’ communications codes. Oh yeah — you gotta read this stuff, man. Even the Kenneth Arnold “flying saucer” sightings in the lead-up to Roswell were orchestrated by “the deception planners.”

Carrion, who left MUFON in 2010, credits ongoing FOIA research into FBI and CIA documents for “providing more pieces to the puzzle each day.” Although the material at his Center for UFO Truth website hasn’t been updated in nearly two years, he assures readers the jig is almost up: “When enough of the puzzle has been assembled with official source documentation, and sober Americans realize the extent to which they have been deceived, it will be time to call your Congressman and demand that those Federal Agencies who have been part and parcel of the Big Lie — are hauled into Congressional hearings to admit their complicity and make their amends to the American People.”

Key phrase — sober Americans. So guys, do whatever you will with the latest revelations, but I liked it better when we could blame ETs. I’ve had it up to my earlobes with dastardly human malfeasance. I’m gonna go get drunk.

Daddy needs his medicine | De Void
 
Project MOGUL. Why do people keep coming up with more ridiculous explanations?

There is just no way Project MOGUL explains Roswell. The reasons for that have been gone over endlessly in other threads.

That Counter Intelligence was in some way either initially or subsequently THE major use of Roswell by the military seems perfectly reasonable and higher on the probability scale than MOGUL or aliens. The major heartburn for anyone looking into this for more than five minutes is why did one of the most highly secure, highly trained, and highly visible military bases (meaning career killing/making) issue a press release saying they had a flying disk? To say they misidentified a balloon is too much of a stretch for me personally. I'm not sure what happened in Roswell, but it wasn't just another sunny afternoon.

Next round is on me.
 
That gets me too though - why would they say that? It seems to be an obvious mis-direction of sorts and it could have been for the security of the MOCUL project. It probably wasn't aliens though.
 
The thing that makes me disbelieve the Mogul explanation is that a mogul balloon would not disintegrate into a very long, wide debris field. A balloon hitting the ground even at terminal velocity (which would not be much for balloons) would not cause such a debris field. It would more likely quite gently hit the ground and maybe break up a bit. Disintegrate into thousands of pieces over a large area? No chance.
 
I have no doubt intellegence agancys have capitalised on this genre, getting the opposites agencys to chase shadows is a legitimate tactic.
piggy backing that to a elusive phenomena with at least some reality to it also helps.

"Leaking" that they had recovered santa's sleigh which crashed in the desert would not be as plausible.

I often wonder if the RV projects were designed with this in mind too, The opposition finds out you have details of one of their secret projects, you leak you got the info via RV.
This covers the arse of your agent in the project.
 
I think one of the major factors here are nuclear weapons. Insane counter-intelligence and intelligence operations were run by both sides in a constant and aggressive manner. Still are I imagine.

Could there have been something to the Flying Saucer story? It is so hard to say. As it is, Roswell has grown into a industry. I personally have pretty much given up pondering over Roswell and the Betty and Barney Hill case. Two seminal cases in UFO history. I accept that something strange happened in both cases, the true nature of which I cannot really determine.

They both have just been beat to death, run over, shot, stabbed, tied to wild horse, dropped over a cliff, and raked over the coals.

To add another to the Roswell list, there is Douglas Dietrich's ROSWELL AND THE RISING SUN: World
War II Didn't End the Way You Think...

I've listened to Dietrich's presentation and it is wild and richly detailed.
 
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