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Can enyone explain this regarding Apollo 11 mission?

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KEROUAC

Skilled Investigator
Regarding the Apollo 11 mission there are a few big problems with some of the filming that we have I've noticed. Maybe there are innocent explanations and my worries are unfounded but I'd be interested with other peoples views on this. Of course there are other well documented photographic anomalies people have brought already.

Firstly when the Lunar module left the moon on it's return journey there is a camera shot from the moon which tracks it's flight upwards.


EDIT: This is Apollo 17 footage

Now I am sure they didn't leave a cameraman behind to get the footage which only leaves the possibility that a remote camera was used.

The question is how did they get the timing precisely right baring in mind that if it was being controlled by someone at Nasa there would have been a large delay between what they were seeing on their monitors (possibly 4 minutes? I am not sure) and the signal they presumably would have sent to control the camera? There is a possibility that the astronauts controlled the camera which I think is unlikely as they had more important things to deal with or perhaps it was automated in some other way.

There is also the famous footage of Neil Armstrong coming down the steps of the Lunar Module - being filmed by a camera which is already on the moon :confused: So presumably that means when we see that footage we are not seeing the very first steps onto the moon - because who placed the camera there? (Ok that is minor gripe but I've never heard that one explained)

I have heard a theory recently and I admit I do not know the source off hand which suggested that the first moon landings were real but that the footage was staged which is why we see certain problems with them. There was also a suggestion that to transmit live footage from the moon you would need an enormous transmitter not to mention the problems with time delay. Now I don't know if any of this is valid but I thought I would bring up these points to see if anyone can throw light on the subject.
 
The footage you see of the LM's blasting off were all from Apollo's 15,16 and 17. The camera was on the rover and controlled from Earth to watch the blast off from the moon. The question about Armstrong is that there was a camera placed on one of the adjoining legs of the LM which captured the iconic images
 
The footage you see of the LM's blasting off were all from Apollo's 15,16 and 17. The camera was on the rover and controlled from Earth to watch the blast off from the moon. The question about Armstrong is that there was a camera placed on one of the adjoining legs of the LM which captured the iconic images

Oh I realise I linked to the wrong footage (Apollo 17) But the same question holds. How did they do it with all the timing issues? Also I thought there was a shot of Armstong descending from an angle away from the LM.
 
The timing issue was not that great, only a few seconds. So what happened is that remote instructions were sent from Earth approximately 3-4 (although I've read from 1.3 - 6 seconds) seconds before the timed launch. It seems, although I haven't looked for the footage, that the last 3 missions were filmed and 15 and 16 were not timed perfectly. But 17 was dead on, probably because of the trial and error. This is the one that you see because of the good timing. And as stated, these videos were taken from the rovers.

Also before Armstrong went down the ladder he hit the release button for the camera to swing into position. As this was to be a memorable historic moment, it was integrated into the design so we could capture the images and video of the first steps. The camera served other functions as well.
 
The timing issue was not that great, only a few seconds. So what happened is that remote instructions were sent from Earth approximately 3-4 (although I've read from 1.3 - 6 seconds) seconds before the timed launch. It seems, although I haven't looked for the footage, that the last 3 missions were filmed and 15 and 16 were not timed perfectly. But 17 was dead on, probably because of the trial and error. This is the one that you see because of the good timing. And as stated, these videos were taken from the rovers.

Here's an extensive interview with Ed Fendell (PDF link) who was the Mission Control operator for the Rover's camera. In it he talks about the camera techniques he used to keep up with the EVA activities and the LM ascent. On Apollo 15, the camera motor had burned out and on A16 the rover wasn't parked in the right place. With A17, the commands began 3 seconds ahead and followed a precise timeline (Fendell wasn't even looking at a television, only the timeline)
 
Also before Armstrong went down the ladder he hit the release button for the camera to swing into position. As this was to be a memorable historic moment, it was integrated into the design so we could capture the images and video of the first steps. The camera served other functions as well.

The details of this camera can be found on this section (scroll to 109:21:09) of the A11 Lunar Surface Journal. The camera was attached to a equipment shelf. (there's photos of it and a PDF of the camera's manual at that link)
 
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