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Clifford Stone's Tales

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Christopher O'Brien

Back in the Saddle Aginn
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[The following was [posted on UFOUpdates today---chris]

Stone and his 'stories' have re-surfaced again. This time
in a new, self-published, book - see Amazon.Com:

Book Description
Publication Date: November 17, 2011

"Sgt. Clifford Stone is one of the most important truth tellers
of our time. This book is a collector’s treasure of his unique
personal experiences in the military with real extraterrestrial
beings. I recognize his truth and honor him for having the
courage to tell it. Clifford carries a time sensitive and world
changing message vital to our very survival, that 'they are not
hostile'. His story educates and opens doors to a new awareness
about what’s really going on behind veils of secrecy which
influences all our lives. He leads us into a whole new way of
thinking and behaving. Clifford Stone raises our consciousness,
touches my heart, and brings me to tears with his fascinating
true story." --Introduction by Paola Leopizzi Harris

With a foreword by Robert Salas. Its unfortunate that Robert
didn't do a web-search on Stone. Had he done so Kevin Randle's
blog-post on Stone would have popped:
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Source: Kevin Randle's A Different Perspective Blog

Friday, November 18, 2005
<snip>
Sergeant First Class (SFC) Clifford Stone

Take as a quick example, the tales told by Cliff Stone. He says
he was not trained as a clerk-typist when he joined the service
but his Army records show only training as a clerk. His record
shows that his only assignments were as a clerk or an admin
specialist or in other roles in that arena. His record shows
that he served in Vietnam, though it is not clear how long he
was actually in-country. His records indicate that he was a
clerk as the Army mission in Vietnam wound down and that he had
no combat experience. He was awarded no decorations for valor.

Stone has said that when he reported for duty in Vietnam, he
requested a combat assignment because he had no training as a
clerk. His request was denied by the company first sergeant. He
said that, during his tour, he would periodically crawl out of
the base camp, through the wire, to engage the enemy. There is
nothing in his record to suggest this is true. When he completed
his Vietnam assignment, he returned to the United States and to
the mundane world of clerk-typist.

Most Vietnam veterans would dispute Stone’s claims of personal
firefights with the Viet Cong and his one-man missions outside
the wire because they simply know better. Individual soldiers
did not crawl through the base camp wire to engage the enemy.
Those who tell similar stories have universally been shown to be
lying about those events.


Stone and the Kecksburg Crash

To provide an additional example of embellishment, Stone has
claimed that he was involved in the Kecksburg UFO crash. His
role seems to have changed over the years, as additional
information has come to light. For example, Stone had said
originally he called the Unsolved Mysteries hotline after they
ran their Kecksburg UFO story. Stone said he had personally
witnessed the armed military convoy, helmeted soldiers and a
flatbed truck carrying the damaged UFO out of Kecksburg. On
Sightings in 1992, Stone made a similar claim (which means the
claim is documented on videotape). Stan Gordon, the main
researcher into Kecksburg, said that Stone told him that he,
Stone, was a civilian and that a friend at Lockbourne AFB, Ohio,
called to tell him that the UFO that was in the news had been
brought to the base. The friend (conveniently unidentified),
picked up Stone and drove him to the base where Stone hid in the
car in the parking lot outside a back gate and saw the convoy
carrying the UFO arrive, stay awhile and then leave for Wright-
Patterson AFB, also in Ohio.

Stone has not renewed these claims since 1992 or 1993. Now,
however, when challenged about his involvement in this case,
Stone claims that he "remote viewed" the site. He hadn’t
physically been there but had "seen" it. This seems to be a new
twist to explain how Stone, then a 16 year-old student living
some 90 miles away from Lockbourne AFB and not all that close to
Kecksburg, might have been in a position to see the convoy. So,
in all, Stone has claimed to have been in Kecksburg, then,
rather than being in Kecksburg to witness the convoy and all the
ancillary events, he changed the story to having seen the convoy
arrive at one Air Force base before it was transferred to
another. And, finally he remote viewed it. So, which version is
the truth?


Stone and Project Moon Dust

As added evidence, if such is necessary, Stone has suggested
that it was his research and his inside knowledge of government
UFO investigations that lead us to the secret UFO project known
as Moon Dust. He claims to be the first to reveal anything about
it but when challenged to provide specific information, he has
failed to do so, giving the excuse that he is not free to
discuss all aspects of his military service.

What this means is that we know the code name of Project Moon
Dust was changed after it was compromised in the mid-1980s.
Since Stone suggests that he was the source of the original
information for Moon Dust he released classified information and
since he was part of that project, at least according to him, he
should know the new, and classified code name. But, when we
asked for the new name, he said that he wasn’t free to give out
that information. Stone "cherry picks" the information he shares
with us, but the real point is that nothing he provided was key
to learning anything new. In other, more precise words, he told
of nothing that wasn’t already available in the UFO community
through other sources. But more importantly, there is no way to
verify his claims because he would refuse to answer the specific
questions, claiming that he was not free to release the
classified details. With no way to verify his claims there
simply is no reason to accept his story as being true.
 
I hate to see Salas endangering his credibility by having become involved with Stone. Maybe we can chalk it up to the fact that Salas is relatively new to ufology and not fully aware of its wacky dark side.
 
I just fail to understand why these folks don't just go ahead and market their tales as fiction. Stone for example, with his history of appearing in numerous documentaries, television episodes, and so forth could write whatever he cared to in the form of a work of fiction, market it as such, and still make the UFO talk show circuit giving the wink and a nod when asked how much truth is in there. See what I'm saying? I don't see the economic advantage to the its all true approach particularly when your tale is tissue paper thin at best.
 
This is just one more reason that skeptics don't take this stuff seriously. I'm not saying there that I know for sure that there are no visitors from space. There is enough evidence to support at least a possibility. Something is going on. But, seems like everytime a "truth" teller comes forward they have no real physical evidence to publish or it will be out at a later date. If we heard tales of giant lizards in the earth and they were flesh and blood. Then we had no other proof we would have a hard time believing it. That's where the fossil record comes in. So, if these are nuts and bolts and flesh and blood visitors then I have to ask "where is the fossil evidence?" Just one bolt or one piece of evidence. Now, that doesn't mean it's not there. But, it is frustrating. I am skeptical but I would like to believe. But, so far there is no hard evidence as far as a craft or an alien body or a "not of this world" substance or material that we can lay our hands on. Still, as long as things like the O'hare and Stephensville incidents along with Leslie Keans book is out there. I have to at least keep watching the skies. The Paracast forum is one of the most honest and engaging forums on the internet. But, after a few years on here I have to say that I don't know anymore about u.f.o.'s than I did when I started posting and reading. Sometime, I just think, screw it all and I think I'll take up a new internet hobby. :eek:
 
I just fail to understand why these folks don't just go ahead and market their tales as fiction.

Who was it that said writing good fiction requires 1 % of talent an 99 % of hard work (or whiskey)? Now I haven't read anything by Mr Stone and frankly don't want to, but I guess his writing style is not the most interesting one. Maybe his talent is less than 1 % (I know how that feels, I've sent in a few manuscripts myself and been ignored *sigh*).

He probably couldn't market his fiction because people wouldn't buy it just for entertainment. Now, if he claims this is all for real, at least people interested in UFOs, aliens and stuff might be interested. I'm afraid he's just following a kind of tradition there that probably started with Mr. Adamski and his voyages to the green pastures of planet Venus.

The problem is, why in all the world is Robert Salas providing the foreword? Doesn't he know that Stone is "one of the most important truth tall-tale-tellers of our time"?
 
He probably couldn't market his fiction because people wouldn't buy it just for entertainment. Now, if he claims this is all for real, at least people interested in UFOs, aliens and stuff might be interested. I'm afraid he's just following a kind of tradition there that probably started with Mr. Adamski and his voyages to the green pastures of planet Venus.

I guess you're right. Also, when the message is coming from aliens or some secret whistle blower it might appear to have a little more authority.

The problem is, why in all the world is Robert Salas providing the foreword? Doesn't he know that Stone is "one of the most important truth tall-tale-tellers of our time"?

There does seem to a "Stolen Valor" aspect to this that should concern him at least. The going out under the wire for solo night patrol thing is just something else.
 
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