You may or may not have heard the trouble that Coldplay has recently had with apparent copyright infringement with a Satriani song. Portions of the song are clearly the same and an overlapping mix of both of them sounds pretty good actually. No biggie. Maybe they copied it and maybe they just did it unconsciously. We've seen this countless times in the past with even the big bands like the Beatles and Led Zeppelin and more.
I came across this information while listening to a local radio show that was interviewing someone who wrote a book about such copying and presenting it as their own material. There are a lot more than I thought, some blatently obvious. The book contained numerous lawsuits, etc, etc.
Now I've heard several musicians, even professionally trained ones, say that original music is sort of a misnomer. We heard music, tones, melodies, and so forth everyday. Much of it on a subconscious level. And we take these combinations of notes and arrange them to our liking. But the underlying tones are locally stored in our memories, whether subliminally or otherwise. I've heard a story about Paul Mcartney waking up with a melody in his head, the one for "Yesterday". And he thought he must have heard it somewhere as he just woke up with it. Apparently, after much discussion, Lennon convinced Paul that it must be an original melody.
So the question of originality and imaination comes to mind when considering the source of new and "unique" music. So far this doesn't seem to even fit in the Paracast forums, but now I'm to my question, sort of. If we look back into history to the Mozarts and Bachs, and even before then. Huge, complex, beautifully arranged masterpieces even though I'm not a classical fan. Nonetheless, they are stupendous works.
What is the basis for these original works of music?? What and where did they come from?? If at one point there were no melodies to build from, then where did they come from?? Perhaps one scenario might be that we hear things in nature. And we mimic them. We chant in simple tones (or maybe complex ones) And from there music goes through its own evolution.
What do you musicians think?? Is imaginative and creative music a natural product of our accumulation of pleasant and inspiring sounds or could it come from elsewhere?? I'm not saying where this might be, just that sometimes music seems to sometimes "creep in". I'm a crappy musician, but sometimes you start playing and strangely come up with good things. And I think I'm an imaginitive and creative person, but this radio interview got me thinking about where such stuff might come from. Is there really such a thing as imagination and true originality or is it a byproduct of our experiences?? Or both?? I suppose the same could be said for art or other creative outlets.
Anyway I know I haven't been very concise here, but I hope you can tell what I'm gettting at. Help me steer this thread a bit if you could.
I came across this information while listening to a local radio show that was interviewing someone who wrote a book about such copying and presenting it as their own material. There are a lot more than I thought, some blatently obvious. The book contained numerous lawsuits, etc, etc.
Now I've heard several musicians, even professionally trained ones, say that original music is sort of a misnomer. We heard music, tones, melodies, and so forth everyday. Much of it on a subconscious level. And we take these combinations of notes and arrange them to our liking. But the underlying tones are locally stored in our memories, whether subliminally or otherwise. I've heard a story about Paul Mcartney waking up with a melody in his head, the one for "Yesterday". And he thought he must have heard it somewhere as he just woke up with it. Apparently, after much discussion, Lennon convinced Paul that it must be an original melody.
So the question of originality and imaination comes to mind when considering the source of new and "unique" music. So far this doesn't seem to even fit in the Paracast forums, but now I'm to my question, sort of. If we look back into history to the Mozarts and Bachs, and even before then. Huge, complex, beautifully arranged masterpieces even though I'm not a classical fan. Nonetheless, they are stupendous works.
What is the basis for these original works of music?? What and where did they come from?? If at one point there were no melodies to build from, then where did they come from?? Perhaps one scenario might be that we hear things in nature. And we mimic them. We chant in simple tones (or maybe complex ones) And from there music goes through its own evolution.
What do you musicians think?? Is imaginative and creative music a natural product of our accumulation of pleasant and inspiring sounds or could it come from elsewhere?? I'm not saying where this might be, just that sometimes music seems to sometimes "creep in". I'm a crappy musician, but sometimes you start playing and strangely come up with good things. And I think I'm an imaginitive and creative person, but this radio interview got me thinking about where such stuff might come from. Is there really such a thing as imagination and true originality or is it a byproduct of our experiences?? Or both?? I suppose the same could be said for art or other creative outlets.
Anyway I know I haven't been very concise here, but I hope you can tell what I'm gettting at. Help me steer this thread a bit if you could.
