Compelling Interview

[BrandonD]

Here's an very interesting interview with an Australian priest about his ufo encounter (circa 1977):

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I find these old interviews very compelling, as they were around before any sort of massive pop-culture assumptions about ufos and aliens.

 

[David Biedny]

Great find! It's a truly fascinating UFO case, one of the best out there. Here's a link to a good blog entry about the Reverend William Gill, who died just this last June. We'll try to have Bill Chalker on the show soon.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

They went back in the church while the crafts were still out there? Did I understand that correctly?

Unfortunately the beings weren't described in the video segment. As for pop culture the craft has been depicted for decades.

 

[The Pair of Cats]

Brandon. Was the priest clip taken from an Australian documentary from the 1970's and presented by a chap named Stan Deyo? If it's the same one, i think Stan Deyo appears in the doco at the end.

 

[Lavarat]

Well I find it to be a good case, with 38 witnesses it usually helps. I will look forward to one of the witnesses describing as best they can what the beings in the craft appeared to look like. Knowing that there are civilian craft people are trying to make, despite the speed differences, the question always arises of terrestrial craft, unless of course the being waving was a grey.

 

[Goody]

Great find! It's a truly fascinating UFO case, one of the best out there. Here's a link to a good blog entry about the Reverend William Gill, who died just this last June. We'll try to have Bill Chalker on the show soon.

That is so good to hear David. He'll make a great guest for sure .

Goody.

 

[BrandonD]

They went back in the church while the crafts were still out there? Did I understand that correctly?

Unfortunately the beings weren't described in the video segment. As for pop culture the craft has been depicted for decades.

Yeah it sounds like they had their normal church services and when they were done they discovered the craft still hovering outside. Weird.

Not sure what you're getting at referring to the craft being depicted for decades. My point about the importance of these old accounts is that even though ufos have been depicted for decades, in the 70s the subject was still relatively vague and culturally undefined. Today there is a common cultural depiction of ufos and aliens which is easily recognizeable by people of all ages.

Anything that has an established mass-cultural context is easily superimposed over what is actually seen. Here's a good example that I learned in art school:

Ask a layman to draw a person with eyeglasses in profile. In the majority of cases he will draw the front of the glasses as round or rectangular objects around the eyes, even though from profile the front of the glasses are just seen as vertical lines. That's because he's drawing from his existing mental bank of "eyeglasses", which is easier than drawing the abstract of what is actually being seen.

I think this situation is often the case in ufo encounters. Which is why I think these early cases are valuable. The cultural mental bank of "ufo" was not nearly as strongly established as it is today, so the witnesses were forced to rely a little more on what was actually seen.

 

[fitzbew88]

Here's an very interesting interview with an Australian priest about his ufo encounter (circa 1977):

Just for clarity (I'm not trying to be Snarky McSharky), the "encounter" was in 1959 the interview is "circa 1977".

 

[Frootloop]

Very interesting video there, thanks for sharing. So what we have here is a prolonged mass sighting of a solid craft which emitted no noise, interaction via the waving back of the occupants and copying of the movement of the flashlight. Its interesting that there was a repeat visit of the same craft to the same location the following day.

There are probably not many sightings in which witnesses can actually see occupants of the craft while the craft is still airbourne, the only other one I can thing of is the betty and barny hill encounter.

 

[Lavarat]

Very interesting video there, thanks for sharing. So what we have here is a prolonged mass sighting of a solid craft which emitted no noise, interaction via the waving back of the occupants and copying of the movement of the flashlight. Its interesting that there was a repeat visit of the same craft to the same location the following day.

There are probably not many sightings in which witnesses can actually see occupants of the craft while the craft is still airbourne, the only other one I can thing of is the betty and barny hill encounter.

I did not know it was in 1959. Someone should find out if the witnesses recall anything about what the occupants looked like.

 

[Frootloop]

Very interesting video there, thanks for sharing. So what we have here is a prolonged mass sighting of a solid craft which emitted no noise, interaction via the waving back of the occupants and copying of the movement of the flashlight. Its interesting that there was a repeat visit of the same craft to the same location the following day.

There are probably not many sightings in which witnesses can actually see occupants of the craft while the craft is still airbourne, the only other one I can thing of is the betty and barny hill encounter.

I did not know it was in 1959. Someone should find out if the witnesses recall anything about what the occupants looked like.

I would think that given the time since the event, it would be difficult to find any of the witnesses and if you did find them, their memories may be distorted by now.

That is the problem with a lot of these early accounts, memory fades over time and some witnesses may have passed on by now. I think that given the communication channels available now, any events that have witnesses who are willing to talk about their experience are propagated via the internet and in some cases, end up on forums, blogs and youtube. Of course, this is muddied by the huge ammount of hoax material that is as equally easily distributed.

 

[Lavarat]

Very interesting video there, thanks for sharing. So what we have here is a prolonged mass sighting of a solid craft which emitted no noise, interaction via the waving back of the occupants and copying of the movement of the flashlight. Its interesting that there was a repeat visit of the same craft to the same location the following day.

There are probably not many sightings in which witnesses can actually see occupants of the craft while the craft is still airbourne, the only other one I can thing of is the betty and barny hill encounter.

I did not know it was in 1959. Someone should find out if the witnesses recall anything about what the occupants looked like.

I would think that given the time since the event, it would be difficult to find any of the witnesses and if you did find them, their memories may be distorted by now.

That is the problem with a lot of these early accounts, memory fades over time and some witnesses may have passed on by now. I think that given the communication channels available now, any events that have witnesses who are willing to talk about their experience are propagated via the internet and in some cases, end up on forums, blogs and youtube. Of course, this is muddied by the huge ammount of hoax material that is as equally easily distributed.

Your right, something about this case seems interesting, I figure if they were trying to make up a story they would not wait 20 years to be interviewed. Who will ever know.

 

[Ben]

I decided to download the book last night and read a few pages, just to feel it out.... wow. I couldn't stop reading it. I finally had to turn out the light and hit the bed but I got about halfway through it and I found it to be extremely interesting. My gut-instinct tells me that this is complete BS as far as it didn't actually come from an extraterrestrial interview but so far, I'm finding most of it to be pretty well thought-out. I've heard a lot of this stuff before so it's not as if all of it is newly-discovered information. But it's a nicely-developed theory... probably took a good while to get all this stuff together and hammered out. I found what I've read so far to be incredibly interesting but as I read, I kept thinking of that guy who talks about the giant 'soul-collector' on the moon. Was that Lear? A lot of this really seemed to align itself with the crap they've had on coast-to-coast over the years.

This is a great piece of entertainment, in all sincerity.... I'll probably buy the book at some point. I'm going to read the other half of it later on today. Should be fun.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

I decided to download the book last night and read a few pages, just to feel it out.... wow. I couldn't stop reading it. I finally had to turn out the light and hit the bed but I got about halfway through it and I found it to be extremely interesting. My gut-instinct tells me that this is complete BS as far as it didn't actually come from an extraterrestrial interview but so far, I'm finding most of it to be pretty well thought-out. I've heard a lot of this stuff before so it's not as if all of it is newly-discovered information. But it's a nicely-developed theory... probably took a good while to get all this stuff together and hammered out. I found what I've read so far to be incredibly interesting but as I read, I kept thinking of that guy who talks about the giant 'soul-collector' on the moon. Was that Lear? A lot of this really seemed to align itself with the crap they've had on coast-to-coast over the years.

This is a great piece of entertainment, in all sincerity.... I'll probably buy the book at some point. I'm going to read the other half of it later on today. Should be fun.

You mean to post this in this thread, or the alien interview one? Just wondering if I should try and move it.

 

[TClaeys]

Here's an very interesting interview with an Australian priest about his ufo encounter (circa 1977):

a32CoFP0ics

I find these old interviews very compelling, as they were around before any sort of massive pop-culture assumptions about ufos and aliens.

Is there a video here or link?? I can't see or link to anything.

I get : a32CoFP0ics

Looks like everyone else is seeing something though right??

 

[Ben]

You mean to post this in this thread, or the alien interview one? Just wondering if I should try and move it.

Yikes. Wrong thread, indeed. I was posting re: the alien interview.

 

[The Hawk]

Is there a video here or link?? I can't see or link to anything.

I get : a32CoFP0ics

Looks like everyone else is seeing something though right??

Something must have happened, yeah there's no link.

 

[Gareth]

Here's an very interesting interview with an Australian priest about his ufo encounter (circa 1977):

a32CoFP0ics

I find these old interviews very compelling, as they were around before any sort of massive pop-culture assumptions about ufos and aliens.

Brandon have you got that link? Seems to be garbled in the post.

 

[dhatz]

Reverand William Gill passed away last year. The case was investigated among others by J.Allen Hynek (CUFOS). More on the case is available at ufologie.net and Bill Chalker's theOZfile Websites. Quoting from my "UFO occupants" (http://www.hyper.net/ufo/occupants.html) page:

a CE3 case with "human" UFO-occupants observed by tens of witnesses, was reported by Reverend William Gill (1928-2007), while stationed in Papua New Guinea in 1959 (case details: theOZfiles / theOZfiles2, ufologie, nicap). Father Gill prepared a written report of the sighting and 25 witnesses co-signed it, including teachers and medical technicians. In the documents of the case Gill clearly states of the figures on the craft, "no doubt they are human". When Cruttwell probed for details, Gill indicated that the parts he could see "had the outlines of normal human beings". Watch father Gill's 1975 interview describing the event (duration 3.5min):​

which also includes a video interview of father Gill describing the events (concatenating two parts from "UFOs It has begun" 1970s documentary).