• NEW! LOWEST RATES EVER -- SUPPORT THE SHOW AND ENJOY THE VERY BEST PREMIUM PARACAST EXPERIENCE! Welcome to The Paracast+, eight years young! For a low subscription fee, you can download the ad-free version of The Paracast and the exclusive, member-only, After The Paracast bonus podcast, featuring color commentary, exclusive interviews, the continuation of interviews that began on the main episode of The Paracast. We also offer lifetime memberships! Flash! Take advantage of our lowest rates ever! Act now! It's easier than ever to susbcribe! You can sign up right here!

    Subscribe to The Paracast Newsletter!

crash;a book review

Free episodes:

Bob Watson

Paranormal Adept
I just finished Crash. what to say. No smoking gun no answers. Just more questions. very little new info on cases such as Roswell and a few new ones. some cases have less then a paragraph assinged to them and no opinion on the valitity of the case in question. Randle goes very far to say he was subjective in picking cases for inclusion. But it seems that the cases he picked aside from very few have little to no merit.
The book is ok not worth the money to buy just pick it up from the local library.
book rating out of 10
i give it a 4.
 
I just finished Crash. what to say. No smoking gun no answers. Just more questions. very little new info on cases such as Roswell and a few new ones. some cases have less then a paragraph assinged to them and no opinion on the valitity of the case in question.

He sure gave an opinion on Kingman. But Friedman's take is different, and its been my experience that Randle's view is not always better (e.g. Kaufmann).

Randle goes very far to say he was subjective in picking cases for inclusion. But it seems that the cases he picked aside from very few have little to no merit.

Basically just stories with zero corroboration.
 
Taken at a quick glance, it would seem that UFO's were virtually raining from the skies for a while. But, what I find interesting, and the book does a good of of pointing out, is that many of the crashes are actually mixed and confused with others. With dates and places changed a single crash ends up being reported as 4 or 5 different crashes or events. Yes, there is not a lot of depth on many of the events, the book seems to be more of an outline or a brief over-view...
 
Taken at a quick glance, it would seem that UFO's were virtually raining from the skies for a while. But, what I find interesting, and the book does a good of of pointing out, is that many of the crashes are actually mixed and confused with others. With dates and places changed a single crash ends up being reported as 4 or 5 different crashes or events.


Hesemann, Anderson and others have "extended" Roswell both geographically and temporally.:rolleyes:

Yes, there is not a lot of depth on many of the events, the book seems to be more of an outline or a brief over-view...

It's possible that most of the "events" are pure fiction, intended to draw attention away from the real ones. There was even a claim, in The Rise of the New American Patriots 2012-2100, that Roswell itself was "hyped" to keep rearchers away from an event at Ft Riley KS, in the '60s, during which, it was alleged, a high ranking ET fell into government hands.
 
I've always wondered why whoever is responsible for the UFO/UAP phenomena would allow a crashed material and personnel to be captured. If something of ours crashes, particularly if it has technology we want to keep out of someones hands we try our best to recover it. We certainly don't leave personnel or bodies behind if at all possible and we mount extensive search and rescue operations to recover them.

I'm not saying UFO crashes haven't happened, I simply don't know, I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that they wouldn't try to locate and recover lost craft and occupants. If they locate and disarm nuclear missiles within the most heavily guarded installations on earth it seems unlikely that they would have any difficulty tracking down something of their own manufacture and recovering it no matter where we cart it off to. Does Mr. Randle address that aspect of the puzzle in the book?

One speculation is that they (whoever that is) drop these things around so we will find them. Why they would do such a thing is beyond me. Another is that they just don't have any regard for the individual and regard their crashed craft like we would a lost hammer or other mundane tool. "Oh, we lost saucer X-B-22?" "Oh well, that was last years model anyway and the pilots obviously aren't very good ones, leave 'em for the humans to puzzle over." "Pass me that Strawberry ice cream will ya and turn up the Tibetan drum music!"
 
I've always wondered why whoever is responsible for the UFO/UAP phenomena would allow a crashed material and personnel to be captured. If something of ours crashes, particularly if it has technology we want to keep out of someones hands we try our best to recover it. We certainly don't leave personnel or bodies behind if at all possible and we mount extensive search and rescue operations to recover them.

I recall in the old Botta case the craft near the road was just ashes the day after the guy first saw it. Above were UFOs which apparently did the deed. Perhaps the Roswell craft self destructed to limit the quality of evidence. In other cases like Kecksburg, the device could've been small, uncrewed and deemed expendable.

I'm not saying UFO crashes haven't happened, I simply don't know, I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that they wouldn't try to locate and recover lost craft and occupants.

According to some stories, ETs fled the scene and made good their escape. That supposedly happened at Del Rio and, if Garrison is real, it probably happened there, since I don't recall any report, from anybody, civilian or military, about the survivors who left the scene. They might've been rescued.

If they locate and disarm nuclear missiles within the most heavily guarded installations on earth it seems unlikely that they would have any difficulty tracking down something of their own manufacture and recovering it no matter where we cart it off to.

A potential problem is that forcible rescue might cause too much of a rukus--alerting humanity to their reality when their scheme evidently requires they stay in the background.

One speculation is that they (whoever that is) drop these things around so we will find them. Why they would do such a thing is beyond me. Another is that they just don't have any regard for the individual

Undoubtedly, since crashes result in deaths. That seems to be going too far so most people would assume accidents.
 
A potential problem is that forcible rescue might cause too much of a rukus--alerting humanity to their reality when their scheme evidently requires they stay in the background.

The subject of Mind-Control (insert spooky music here) has often accompanied the UFO phenomena. Certainly in alleged abduction cases the ability to manipulate memory and the perception of experience (sound of scratching a record) puts those kind of concerns on the back burner. But ...who knows? Maybe the earth is just where they send their student drivers and nar-do-wells. Prison planet? What about Party Planet? Maybe we're seeing the result of a bunch of drunk driving. Could be they're coming here for fine Canadian Whiskey (may I suggest the new Crown Royal Black) and Soul Train DVDs.
 
The subject of Mind-Control (insert spooky music here) has often accompanied the UFO phenomena. Certainly in alleged abduction cases the ability to manipulate memory and the perception of experience (sound of scratching a record) puts those kind of concerns on the back burner.

Abductions tend to involve solitary individuals in isolated places. I don't know if mind control would work on the whole security department of a major base.

Maybe the earth is just where they send their student drivers and nar-do-wells. Prison planet? What about Party Planet? Maybe we're seeing the result of a bunch of drunk driving

Right, who knows? :)
 
I've always wondered why whoever is responsible for the UFO/UAP phenomena would allow a crashed material and personnel to be captured. If something of ours crashes, particularly if it has technology we want to keep out of someones hands we try our best to recover it. We certainly don't leave personnel or bodies behind if at all possible and we mount extensive search and rescue operations to recover them.

I'm not saying UFO crashes haven't happened, I simply don't know, I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that they wouldn't try to locate and recover lost craft and occupants. If they locate and disarm nuclear missiles within the most heavily guarded installations on earth it seems unlikely that they would have any difficulty tracking down something of their own manufacture and recovering it no matter where we cart it off to.

QUOTE=trainedobserver;91779]
One speculation is that they (whoever that is) drop these things around so we will find them. Why they would do such a thing is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

You can thought experiment this in a couple of other ways as well.

1) what you've said makes sense from a military point of view. However, what about from an academicians point of view. Meaning that instead of seeing the military arm of the occupants we are seeing the scientist/researcher crowd. In that case, they may not be as efficient in retrieval and rescue. Most scientific research missions conducted by humans involve very smart people ridiculously inadequately prepared for emergencies, survival, and security. If the technology is sufficiently advanced, then this would make even more sense. Just as modern technology gives us a sense of saftey and security, though just as often it is a false sense, so too could these occupants rely on their technology as that safety rope. It could be as simple as: Scientists decide to go and collect data => the technology fails => a distress call is made => someone hears it and renders aid => only time or equipment to evac the occupants => Humans show up and collect the pieces.

I think that it is inevitable for technology to fail. From my experience, this failure is typically at the most inopportune time with the worst imaginable circumstances blanketed by an oppressive sense of doom. Thus, if we can assume that Murphy's Law is universally consistent then we can assume that this has happened.

Now the prospect of one day dealing with the military arm should frighten the hell out of ya. Think Green Peace versus the 5th fleet, no holds barred. Or overweight paintballers versus Delta Force in conquest mode. It's a little frightening to consider really.

2) Now think of this with a strategic mindset. I fly my fancy UFO around and get the indigenous folks to chase me. I can gauge the current state of the tech pretty good from these exchanges. I can hover their military bases and inspect their greatest weapons. I can fly over their population centers and watch the reactions that gives me. I can see that they have managed to build a bunch of stuff and, though technologically they are eons behind me I can see that they are smart, adaptive, creative, and are able to learn. But what I dont know is how adaptive, cleaver, and creative are they. how fast can they learn. Hmm, lets give them a very old piece of technology and see what they do with it. How fast and in what ways do they incorporate it into their lives and culture.

I am smarter than a chimp (at least in theory :D). Especially so when I bring that chimp to my environment. But, in its environment, I am at a supreme disadvantage. It belongs there. The more I learn about the chimp (his behavior, the environment, habits, physiology, psychology, etc) the better I am able to utilize my full intellect and technological prowess to accomplish whatever it is I am there to accomplish.

I've said it before and I still mean it. I would much rather be the feared beasts than the kept lab rat.

"Pass me that Strawberry ice cream will ya and turn up the Tibetan drum music!"
LOL, You gotta love the mythology!
 
1) what you've said makes sense from a military point of view. However, what about from an academicians point of view. Meaning that instead of seeing the military arm of the occupants we are seeing the scientist/researcher crowd.

There is plenty of evidence for research, but I'm not sure they'd operate separately of their military/government. Universities constantly organize field expeditions on Earth, but all our space exploration is done by the government.

It could be as simple as: Scientists decide to go and collect data => the technology fails => a distress call is made => someone hears it and renders aid => only time or equipment to evac the occupants => Humans show up and collect the pieces.

In some cases, it seems the other way around. Humanoids are seen and taken without known retrieval of craft.

I think that it is inevitable for technology to fail.

Seems that way, based on our experience. Even state of the art things conk.

Now the prospect of one day dealing with the military arm should frighten the hell out of ya. Think Green Peace versus the 5th fleet, no holds barred. Or overweight paintballers versus Delta Force in conquest mode. It's a little frightening to consider really.

Maybe, if these reverse engineering stories are true, uncle sam could have some neat tricks up his sleeve. :)

I can see that they are smart, adaptive, creative, and are able to learn. But what I dont know is how adaptive, cleaver, and creative are they. how fast can they learn

Even before 1947, Earth watchers would've been aware that we're advancing at an logarithmic rate.
 
2) Now think of this with a strategic mindset. I fly my fancy UFO around and get the indigenous folks to chase me. I can gauge the current state of the tech pretty good from these exchanges. I can hover their military bases and inspect their greatest weapons. I can fly over their population centers and watch the reactions that gives me. I can see that they have managed to build a bunch of stuff and, though technologically they are eons behind me I can see that they are smart, adaptive, creative, and are able to learn. But what I dont know is how adaptive, cleaver, and creative are they. how fast can they learn. Hmm, lets give them a very old piece of technology and see what they do with it. How fast and in what ways do they incorporate it into their lives and culture.

If the Roswell event is legit, that's actually my favorite take on it. These monkeys built the atomic bomb ?... ok let's drop intel package 1 and come back to measure advancement in a few years. A package containing expendable artificial organic life forms, highly advanced memory metals (nano-tech), complex minituarized computers and fiber optics would make sense.
 
If the Roswell event is legit, that's actually my favorite take on it. These monkeys built the atomic bomb ?... ok let's drop intel package 1 and come back to measure advancement in a few years. A package containing expendable artificial organic life forms, highly advanced memory metals (nano-tech), complex minituarized computers and fiber optics would make sense.


Yes the Roswell incident intrigues me on the basis so much focus by ufology community what if the actual crash was a joint US/ Allied Cold War top secret experiment not a so called Et craft? However, enjoying Lt Col Kevin Randel book 'Crash' which is well written and critics should write a book themselves before trashing his hard work!
Furthermore, remember USA/ British/ Australian had many secret experimental facilities in 1947 how about the US/British Scotland Secret Naval base and testing area? While everyone is focused on Roswell crash and the US Air force decides to send a number of flights to different location over the US with its secret cargo (if ET)and then bring them together overseas working away from the actual incident?
 
If the Roswell event is legit, that's actually my favorite take on it. These monkeys built the atomic bomb ?... ok let's drop intel package 1 and come back to measure advancement in a few years. A package containing expendable artificial organic life forms, highly advanced memory metals (nano-tech), complex minituarized computers and fiber optics would make sense.

It would take much longer than a few years for us to build such materials, and there was no hiatus in ET visits. By far the parsimonious view of Roswell is that it was an accident, maybe due to lighning, or just possibly, a shootdown.:D

---------- Post added at 11:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 AM ----------

Yes the Roswell incident intrigues me on the basis so much focus by ufology community what if the actual crash was a joint US/ Allied Cold War top secret experiment not a so called Et craft?

This is exactly what they've long claimed. :rolleyes:The most vocal skeptics point to MOGUL. But I don't buy it. Marcel sr would have to be a retard not to recognize balloon junk.

However, enjoying Lt Col Kevin Randel book 'Crash' which is well written and critics should write a book themselves before trashing his hard work!

Much of which has involved exhaustively researching every conceivable nonET explanation, and finding them all inadaquate.
 
Back
Top