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Culture of Contact report? David or Jeremy?
- Thread starter Gareth
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David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
Well, I'd love to share my stories of the event, but Jeremy has forbidden me to speak about the thing or even acknowledge I was there.
Oh shit.
dB
Oh shit.
dB
Frootloop
Nutball
mikec
Skilled Investigator
I was there. Jeremy put no such clamp on me.
It went on for a few days, so there are a lot of small stories - they may come in with a few postings.
But - Sadly, the event was poorly attended. The Lowes Theater in Jersey City is HUGE. And, it made the crowd seem even smaller. The plus side of the tiny crowd is that it was really easy to walk right up to people and chat, so I really enjoyed my time. I managed to have some really nice talks with some very interesting folks.
The big event between David B. and Steven Bassett never happened. Steve rolled in shortly before his first day speaking time, and wasn't there for the final evening time. I have a hard time with the "disclosure" thing, because it would be enormously complicated, and the "movement" makes it seem so simple.
And - I did not see Jeremy's final movie. It was late, and I had a miserable head cold, so I sat outside and made an effort to *kibitz with some folks.
I did watch Richard Dolan leave the theater after Jeremy's movie, he had a sort of a wide-eyed astonished expression on his face, and he told me, "Jeremy is a BAD boy." Maybe that'll make the DVD cover as a review from a UFO expert.
*Also - Kibitz shows up on my spell check.
It went on for a few days, so there are a lot of small stories - they may come in with a few postings.
But - Sadly, the event was poorly attended. The Lowes Theater in Jersey City is HUGE. And, it made the crowd seem even smaller. The plus side of the tiny crowd is that it was really easy to walk right up to people and chat, so I really enjoyed my time. I managed to have some really nice talks with some very interesting folks.
The big event between David B. and Steven Bassett never happened. Steve rolled in shortly before his first day speaking time, and wasn't there for the final evening time. I have a hard time with the "disclosure" thing, because it would be enormously complicated, and the "movement" makes it seem so simple.
And - I did not see Jeremy's final movie. It was late, and I had a miserable head cold, so I sat outside and made an effort to *kibitz with some folks.
I did watch Richard Dolan leave the theater after Jeremy's movie, he had a sort of a wide-eyed astonished expression on his face, and he told me, "Jeremy is a BAD boy." Maybe that'll make the DVD cover as a review from a UFO expert.
*Also - Kibitz shows up on my spell check.
Frootloop
Nutball
Well, obviously I couldnt make it so would love to hear how it went..... I would imagine that you will cover it in your podcast Jeremy?
As for disclosure, IF there is anything to disclose it would change everything... . religion being one of the biggest shifts I would think. So far, its just been a dribble of denial.
As for disclosure, IF there is anything to disclose it would change everything... . religion being one of the biggest shifts I would think. So far, its just been a dribble of denial.
Frootloop
Nutball
Smooth or Chunky?
valiens
Skilled Investigator
Chunky. It feels like I'm eating more.
mikec
Skilled Investigator
Here's some stuff from the conference...
Peter Robbins is a delightful person, and it was really nice to sit with him at his desk. He is a wealth of info having to do with this very strange subject. A future guest on the PARCAST perhaps???
I also met David B. and folks on this forum should know that he is much goofier in real life than his radio persona. He is must be holding himself back during the show. Strangely, he makes a lot of references to cheese.
Bill Birns did a nice intro to the 1953 WAR OF THE WORLDS.
There was a small discussion group on the stage the final evening. It was actually a highlight, and I wish that format would have been more expansive. Each person on the stage had a lot to contribute.
Another highlight was just being in a crowd with so many folks claiming the contact experience (abduction?). I had a chance to talk with folks with wide ranging experiences. Some had horrifying abductions, while others spoke knowingly of interacting with tall angelic beings from different densities. Some had stories so vague, that they might have implied some sort of un-remembered mystery. Really fascinating, and ultimately, rewarding for me.
Peter Robbins is a delightful person, and it was really nice to sit with him at his desk. He is a wealth of info having to do with this very strange subject. A future guest on the PARCAST perhaps???
I also met David B. and folks on this forum should know that he is much goofier in real life than his radio persona. He is must be holding himself back during the show. Strangely, he makes a lot of references to cheese.
Bill Birns did a nice intro to the 1953 WAR OF THE WORLDS.
There was a small discussion group on the stage the final evening. It was actually a highlight, and I wish that format would have been more expansive. Each person on the stage had a lot to contribute.
Another highlight was just being in a crowd with so many folks claiming the contact experience (abduction?). I had a chance to talk with folks with wide ranging experiences. Some had horrifying abductions, while others spoke knowingly of interacting with tall angelic beings from different densities. Some had stories so vague, that they might have implied some sort of un-remembered mystery. Really fascinating, and ultimately, rewarding for me.
valiens
Skilled Investigator
Mike:
I'm glad you found it rewarding. It's unfortunate it was so poorly attended because the speakers were great, the music was outstanding, the light design was funky, and I've gotten nothing but positive feedback from speakers and patrons.*
I agree--I'd like to do an expansive panel discussion. Maybe just a panel discussion.
Oddly enough hundreds of people have been flocking to the art show in the middle of damn nowhere.
* Except for one Meierite who not only bitched about the "Case Closed" section of my website for being poorly researched, and close minded but then walked away from me when I wanted him to explain what he meant and then emailed me a nasty little email later that night. Oh, the tact of these morons. Spirituality. Love. Space brothers. DICKHEADS.
EDIT: Well...not positive feedback from Michael Mannion & Trish Corbett. Unfortunately Dave & I got stuck in the Lincoln Tunnel while Melissa Reed's (other organizer) train got stuck on the track. We were an hour late getting started. They were none the pleased and I don't blame them but they didn't want to speak to a small crowd anyway so I don't know that it would have mattered if we'd gotten there on time.
I'm glad you found it rewarding. It's unfortunate it was so poorly attended because the speakers were great, the music was outstanding, the light design was funky, and I've gotten nothing but positive feedback from speakers and patrons.*
I agree--I'd like to do an expansive panel discussion. Maybe just a panel discussion.
Oddly enough hundreds of people have been flocking to the art show in the middle of damn nowhere.
* Except for one Meierite who not only bitched about the "Case Closed" section of my website for being poorly researched, and close minded but then walked away from me when I wanted him to explain what he meant and then emailed me a nasty little email later that night. Oh, the tact of these morons. Spirituality. Love. Space brothers. DICKHEADS.
EDIT: Well...not positive feedback from Michael Mannion & Trish Corbett. Unfortunately Dave & I got stuck in the Lincoln Tunnel while Melissa Reed's (other organizer) train got stuck on the track. We were an hour late getting started. They were none the pleased and I don't blame them but they didn't want to speak to a small crowd anyway so I don't know that it would have mattered if we'd gotten there on time.
valiens
Skilled Investigator
Huh. There's an interesting idea. I'd do it if they wanted to/had the capability. It's just under an hour. But not before I submit it to a film fest in Cali. I'm going to tweak it this weekend and ship it off then see what happens.
skunkape
Paranormal Maven
Gareth
Nothin' to see here
mikec
Skilled Investigator
Hi there,
I am the illustrator of the overtly goofy cartoon poster for the recent CULTURE OF CONTACT conference --- Err, I mean - FESTIVAL. The topic of the cartoon poster and Budd Hopkins came up on the recent C of C pod-cast. I feel like I should reply.
I talked with Budd about this directly, and maybe I can clarify a little bit.
First - A while back Jeremy and I chatted about the idea for the poster. I had been reviewing his comments and it was obvious he wanted to do something entirely different than the "standard" conference. I've been to a few UFO conferences, and they can be pretty stodgy and dry. So - I understood what he was trying to accomplish. During my by-gone days as a super-cool hipster in Greenwich Village, I used to do punk rock posters, and I offered up my services to Jeremy. He was quick to say yes, and I got out my pens.
We did a little back and forth with preliminary sketches, and it was a team effort that created the overtly goofy poster.
Okay, let's fast forward to Budd and his reluctance to be a part of this conference --- Err, I mean - FESTIVAL.
Having talked to Budd, he said (I'm paraphrasing from memory) that he didn't like the cartoon because he thought it sent the wrong message about the very serious issues surrounding his research. He felt that the issues of "mythology" fall well outside his focus and conclusions. Fair enough.
He simply chose to remove himself from the festival as a speaker because he felt his work wouldn't be a good fit in this format. I think that Budd has spent a lot of years desperately trying to make sure this topic is treated seriously, and anything that smacks of "jest" would feel repellent to him.
He used this phrase a few times: "It does a disservice to the cause."
Again, fair enough.
I met with Budd several days after the conference and he asked about how the event went. I defended Jeremy and his intentions. I told him it was (sadly) poorly attended. I also said that I met a lot of really nice people, and the small scene made it super easy for me to spend time and chat with people with similar experiences. I said I found this enormously satisfying. Budd understood, appreciated and recognized my positive outcome.
He talked about the other speakers. And with no bitterness, but maybe a little exasperation, he talked about the way he disparages the way they present themselves. He spoke about Steven Basset and the tone he takes, and he said (again), "It does a disservice to the cause."
Maybe a goofy poster is the wrong tact? I know it generated a lot of reactions, either enormously positive or decidedly negative. It sure was fun to draw. Who knows?
I'll add that Budd is not a young man, and that Jeremy is. There is a new generation of researchers (or, more accurately spokesmen) for this very strange phenomenon. Things are changing, and there is an obligation that comes when a torch is passed.
.
I am the illustrator of the overtly goofy cartoon poster for the recent CULTURE OF CONTACT conference --- Err, I mean - FESTIVAL. The topic of the cartoon poster and Budd Hopkins came up on the recent C of C pod-cast. I feel like I should reply.
I talked with Budd about this directly, and maybe I can clarify a little bit.
First - A while back Jeremy and I chatted about the idea for the poster. I had been reviewing his comments and it was obvious he wanted to do something entirely different than the "standard" conference. I've been to a few UFO conferences, and they can be pretty stodgy and dry. So - I understood what he was trying to accomplish. During my by-gone days as a super-cool hipster in Greenwich Village, I used to do punk rock posters, and I offered up my services to Jeremy. He was quick to say yes, and I got out my pens.
We did a little back and forth with preliminary sketches, and it was a team effort that created the overtly goofy poster.
Okay, let's fast forward to Budd and his reluctance to be a part of this conference --- Err, I mean - FESTIVAL.
Having talked to Budd, he said (I'm paraphrasing from memory) that he didn't like the cartoon because he thought it sent the wrong message about the very serious issues surrounding his research. He felt that the issues of "mythology" fall well outside his focus and conclusions. Fair enough.
He simply chose to remove himself from the festival as a speaker because he felt his work wouldn't be a good fit in this format. I think that Budd has spent a lot of years desperately trying to make sure this topic is treated seriously, and anything that smacks of "jest" would feel repellent to him.
He used this phrase a few times: "It does a disservice to the cause."
Again, fair enough.
I met with Budd several days after the conference and he asked about how the event went. I defended Jeremy and his intentions. I told him it was (sadly) poorly attended. I also said that I met a lot of really nice people, and the small scene made it super easy for me to spend time and chat with people with similar experiences. I said I found this enormously satisfying. Budd understood, appreciated and recognized my positive outcome.
He talked about the other speakers. And with no bitterness, but maybe a little exasperation, he talked about the way he disparages the way they present themselves. He spoke about Steven Basset and the tone he takes, and he said (again), "It does a disservice to the cause."
Maybe a goofy poster is the wrong tact? I know it generated a lot of reactions, either enormously positive or decidedly negative. It sure was fun to draw. Who knows?
I'll add that Budd is not a young man, and that Jeremy is. There is a new generation of researchers (or, more accurately spokesmen) for this very strange phenomenon. Things are changing, and there is an obligation that comes when a torch is passed.
.
valiens
Skilled Investigator
I love that poster. It's not the wrong tact. The wrong tact at this point (and this wasn't true in Budd's heyday, granted) is to continue to appeal to only self-serious folk. For better or for worse, Jon Stuart is Gen-X & Y's Walter Cronkite. There is a lesson there.
Look who didn't like your poster: Budd Hopkins for reasons explained and Farah Yurdozu. I love Farah personally but if she doesn't see the humor in hating a cartoon because of its jokey take on the very real subject of reptilians controlling the fate of mankind and dropping the towers on 9/11 via mind control--then. Nothing. Never mind.
On a final odd note, the first person to talk to me about passing a torch was Steve Bassett. I am still waiting for that ceremony to begin. I imagine someone from the Special Olympics will wheel off a short bus and ride up to me, torch in hand, get too excited and give me a hug, accidentally setting us both on fire.
That's my ufology.
Look who didn't like your poster: Budd Hopkins for reasons explained and Farah Yurdozu. I love Farah personally but if she doesn't see the humor in hating a cartoon because of its jokey take on the very real subject of reptilians controlling the fate of mankind and dropping the towers on 9/11 via mind control--then. Nothing. Never mind.
On a final odd note, the first person to talk to me about passing a torch was Steve Bassett. I am still waiting for that ceremony to begin. I imagine someone from the Special Olympics will wheel off a short bus and ride up to me, torch in hand, get too excited and give me a hug, accidentally setting us both on fire.
That's my ufology.
Gareth
Nothin' to see here
I swear, that might be one of the funniest things I've ever read on these forums.
Gawd.