Disclosure would be ridiculous

[truthpandemic]

In a world where people refuse to take responsibility for anything resembling a lie, or a crime, if an alien presence were disclosed, what would the judicial system look like all around the world? Crimes would be in question, not fully investigated, and blamed on the disclosed alien presence. Disclosure may continue to occur to a few Beings at a time as has been claimed. But a government of any nation coming out and saying, "ET is here" to the masses, is completely absurd and irresponsible.

 

[TClaeys]

Crimes would be in question, not fully investigated, and blamed on the disclosed alien presence.

What?? Why do you think this would happen??

 

[truthpandemic]

What?? Why do you think this would happen??

Free beings around the world have continuously blamed everything from gods and ghosts to upbringing and genetics for all their spurious choices in life. Religions continue to flourish and psychoanalysis competes in the courtroom of every country because free beings don't want to take the responsibility of their free choices. From 'the devil made me do it', to 'my father beat me when I was a child', continues the banality of excuses used to appeal to judges and juries around the world. The United States of Salem would ensue...

 

[pixelsmith]

why would aliens need to go through our government to show us they exist? if i were an alien wanting to show myself to planet earth, i think i would just park a bunch of alienmobiles in front of the moon.

 

[Schuyler]

I'm not following your logic there, truth. You're saying that if an alien presence were disclosed that the court systems would collapse because criminals would blame aliens for their crimes? A lot of things might happen after disclosure, but I don't think the court systems are in any danger from them. You rob a 7-eleven, you still go to jail.

 

[truthpandemic]

I'm not following your logic there, truth. You're saying that if an alien presence were disclosed that the court systems would collapse because criminals would blame aliens for their crimes? A lot of things might happen after disclosure, but I don't think the court systems are in any danger from them. You rob a 7-eleven, you still go to jail.

All types of denials would occur. You rob a 7/11. You're apprehended how? A camera caught your picture. Why wouldn't you wear a disguise? So you do and you can't be identified through the picture. The store clerk can only say that you wore a mask, and therefore you can't be identified. Now, how are you apprehended? Robbing a 7/11 has a lot of problems for the police to solve as it is. Now add to the mix that ALL crimes have a wild card attached to them. A disclosed alien presence that roams about, unaccountable and intelligent with their own agenda, well that is just absurd. Add into it telepathy? What the fuck! No way is any government going to give people's crimes more complicated factors to investigate. NO WAY!

 

[bobheck]

All types of denials would occur. You rob a 7/11. You're apprehended how? A camera caught your picture. Why wouldn't you wear a disguise? So you do and you can't be identified through the picture. The store clerk can only say that you wore a mask, and therefore you can't be identified. Now, how are you apprehended? Robbing a 7/11 has a lot of problems for the police to solve as it is. Now add to the mix that ALL crimes have a wild card attached to them. A disclosed alien presence that roams about, unaccountable and intelligent with their own agenda, well that is just absurd. Add into it telepathy? What the fuck! No way is any government going to give people's crimes more complicated factors to investigate. NO WAY!

OK truthpandemic. It is time you get an avatar. Ahh, found one for you. Feel free to use it.

 

[Schuyler]

Telepathy? You know, truth, the dots aren't connecting here. Crime is and will be punishable whether or not there is a disclosed alien presence. Disclosure will not change that process one iota. Even if the aliens arrive, you're still going to have to eat, sleep, and go potty. Life will go on. Maybe you could use it in an attempt to get laid, but I'd be careful there. It could go either way.

"Why don't we go into the other room? After all, the aliens are here!"
"No way. the aliens are here!" See what I mean? Not such a hot pick-up line. It can backfire. And some others:

"Why did you hit your spouse?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you try to rob that person?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you sell methamphetamine to that ten year old?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you shoot that eagle, a protected species?"
"The aliens are here!"

One does not follow the other. It's a non sequitur. Your attorney could bring it up, I suppose, and be laughed out of court. Even if the aliens are here, you still go to jail.

If I may make a polite suggestion, truth. Why not browse around the site awhile and see what has been posted here? There are several threads on 'Disclosure' that present the arguments and reasons for or against, some by some very talented people who have spent some quality time studying the issue. Every time I browse the threads I learn something new. Perhaps you will, too.

And welcome to the forums.

 

[truthpandemic]

Telepathy? You know, truth, the dots aren't connecting here. Crime is and will be punishable whether or not there is a disclosed alien presence. Disclosure will not change that process one iota. Even if the aliens arrive, you're still going to have to eat, sleep, and go potty. Life will go on. Maybe you could use it in an attempt to get laid, but I'd be careful there. It could go either way.

"Why don't we go into the other room? After all, the aliens are here!"
"No way. the aliens are here!" See what I mean? Not such a hot pick-up line. It can backfire. And some others:

"Why did you hit your spouse?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you try to rob that person?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you sell methamphetamine to that ten year old?"
"The aliens are here!"

"Why did you shoot that eagle, a protected species?"
"The aliens are here!"

One does not follow the other. It's a non sequitur. Your attorney could bring it up, I suppose, and be laughed out of court. Even if the aliens are here, you still go to jail.

If I may make a polite suggestion, truth. Why not browse around the site awhile and see what has been posted here? There are several threads on 'Disclosure' that present the arguments and reasons for or against, some by some very talented people who have spent some quality time studying the issue. Every time I browse the threads I learn something new. Perhaps you will, too.

And welcome to the forums.

Wow! Are you O.K.? Crimes will be more difficult to decide upon for a judge or jury if responsibility for the crime is in doubt. I can't tell if you're just misunderstanding the argument or if you can't understand the argument. Maybe thinking should occur for you at some point. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking...

 

[bobheck]

Wow! Are you O.K.? Crimes will be more difficult to decide upon for a judge or jury if responsibility for the crime is in doubt. I can't tell if you're just misunderstanding the argument or if you can't understand the argument. Maybe thinking should occur for you at some point. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking...

No, the problem is you have no argument. Let me say this in your, or layman's, terms -- you make absolutely no sense.

What you are saying is the equivalent of "The Devil made me do it" and saying that is a legitimate defense.

This case is closed, jury adjourned, judge seat is vacant.

 

[Schuyler]

Wow! Are you O.K.? Crimes will be more difficult to decide upon for a judge or jury if responsibility for the crime is in doubt. I can't tell if you're just misunderstanding the argument or if you can't understand the argument. Maybe thinking should occur for you at some point. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking...

You know, here I was trying very carefully to be nice to you, especially since you are new to the forums. And you return that favor as per above. Your statement is childish at best. How old are you?

Let me put it this way. Your argument is ludicrous. You have not substantiated it in any way whatsoever. You don't HAVE an argument. You've made up this thing out of whole cloth and it's leaking like a sieve. Peole here DO understand what you are saying, and what you are saying is complete and utter nonsense. If this is the level of discourse we are to expect from you on these forums I would predict you won't be here long.

 

[truthpandemic]

You know, here I was trying very carefully to be nice to you, especially since you are new to the forums. And you return that favor as per above. Your statement is childish at best. How old are you?

Let me put it this way. Your argument is ludicrous. You have not substantiated it in any way whatsoever. You don't HAVE an argument. You've made up this thing out of whole cloth and it's leaking like a sieve. Peole here DO understand what you are saying, and what you are saying is complete and utter nonsense. If this is the level of discourse we are to expect from you on these forums I would predict you won't be here long.

There is something wrong with you. But I am optimistic that you will begin to think. A crime is committed. In order to convict the alleged perpetrator of the crime, a judge or jury has to find out who is responsible. If a defense could be made that given anomalous variables, such as the perpetrator was forced to commit the crime by having no control over their faculties at the time of the event then responsibility for the crime would be in doubt. Centuries and centuries of anomalous variables have allowed judges and juries to conclude that everything from medical conditions to momentary passions to moral upbringing to even spiritual manifestations extinguishes culpability. Add to it an alien presence that the government of a country where the crime was committed voluntarily admits to being both there and unaccountable. Is it difficult to understand that such an admission would make matters untenable?
I can't believe THE MASTER OF THE FORUM is so dumb. (wait, yes I can)

 

[pixelsmith]

uh oh... you have just stepped over the line truthpandemic. i give you about 30 minutes before you are banned unless you can edit quickly.

 

[bobheck]

uh oh... you have just stepped over the line truthpandemic. i give you about 30 minutes before you are banned unless you can edit quickly.

I got five bucks says he makes it past 30 minutes, but not past midnight.

 

[Schuyler]

There is something wrong with you. But I am optimistic that you will begin to think. A crime is committed. In order to convict the alleged perpetrator of the crime, a judge or jury has to find out who is responsible. If a defense could be made that given anomalous variables, such as the perpetrator was forced to commit the crime by having no control over their faculties at the time of the event then responsibility for the crime would be in doubt. Centuries and centuries of anomalous variables have allowed judges and juries to conclude that everything from medical conditions to momentary passions to moral upbringing to even spiritual manifestations extinguishes culpability. Add to it an alien presence that the government of a country where the crime was committed voluntarily admits to being both there and unaccountable. Is it difficult to understand that such an admission would make matters untenable?
I can't believe THE MASTER OF THE FORUM is so dumb. (wait, yes I can)

Too late. He can't edit my post. May we close this thread, please? Thanks!

 

[bobheck]

Too late. He can't edit my post. May we close this thread, please? Thanks!

Pretty please, with sugar on top.