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Dolan: Fact or Fancy?

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Schuyler

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From another thread, the idea is to discuss your take on Richard Dolan's work. Though thought of as a premier researcher by some, he has also attracted some negative press and viewpoints. This is a chance to discuss the issue. I do hope people will discuss his work itself rather than to whom he is married. In any case, I'll pull together a post tomorrow.
 
First and foremost I believe he is an intelligent guy and a good researcher.

To cut to the chase, my only concern (and this covers most of the issues people are likely to bring up) is that the people Rich trusts as sources from intelligence/Govt circles might not be giving accurate information, and maybe because of his comparatively short time in this field Rich is too trusting of these people.

The follow on problem then becomes the possibility Rich has used bunk information as the basis for much of his research. The only thing I can do is listen to people who know better than I, and you can bet that after the release of his next book Ill be very interested in what guys like Robert Hastings and Don Ecker have to say.

All in all though I still enjoy hearing him speak and tend to listen to a podcast if only to hear another Rich Dolan interview.
 
I haven't made it through his first book. I do like his talks and have bet him a and his wife. My impression is the Karyn is a great asset to Richard. She seems to be a good balance to his intensity and fast mind. I liked them both and thought they were very genuine. ( i just listened to a C2C show where the word asset means something specific in the intelligence world I did not mean it that way)

I admit I do not have research skills because apparently I don't live in the REAL world so I will save the fact checking for the other people.
 
I look at Dolan’s work so far in relativistic terms against the body of UFO literature. Because it is not a recognized academic field, none of it is of PhD quality in terms of the research involved. There is no one to check it or guide it. There is no recognized peer review process. Anyone can jump in and many have. Academics, by and large, stay away. One could argue that this is because it would be a career-wrecking move, but there may be more to it than that. Also, there are exceptions: Vallee is one. There are several other ‘researchers’ who claim to have PhDs. I suggest you look carefully at where these degrees are from and what academic discipline they represent. Some of them are from unaccredited correspondence schools.

Dolan’s education is legitimate. He has an MA in History from the University of Rochester. His BA is from Alfred University, a small private University in New York (Student population: 2300). He has a ‘certificate’ in Political Theory from Oxford University and was a Rhodes Scholar Finalist. (http://rocwiki.org/Richard_Dolan) He says he’s made his living since then as a ‘self-employed business writer.’ (http://keyholepublishing.com/about.htm). In this sense his academic qualifications are similar to Stanton Friedman, who has a Master’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago. Friedman brags about this with impunity. It has to be said that Dolan does not have a scientific education. His is strictly liberal arts.

Dolan is much more low-key. He is obviously capable of earning a PhD; he just hasn’t done it and has spurned academia. That’s part of his persona, an iconoclastic scholar who has rejected the stilted halls of the Ivy League in order to concentrate on serious research. He says he ‘narrowly missed’ a Rhodes Scholarship because he managed to ‘alienate the selection committee.’ In other words, he was academically qualified; the reason for his rejection was politics. People like us really like that! Here’s someone who has said ‘No” to the establishment and is searching for ‘The Truth’ in opposition to it. This really feeds into the world view of most people interested in the field.

Compared with most of the UFO books written by journalists who have a fleeting interest, delusional contactees, or fiction authors who suddenly see aliens, Dolan’s work looks top notch. He actually uses footnotes and includes a bibliography. To a fact-starved public eager to get a handle on SOMEthing, he has become a star, an instant expert, and a font of information. Dolan has details! As a result there is almost no serious criticism of his work. But look at what has happened. Dolan has risen to the top (quite easily, I believe) of a field that is in itself highly suspect, full of ill-trained authors and self-appointed ‘researchers’ with little academic training in critical reasoning. Often the reason for stardom in Ufology is the fact that someone has a story to tell. That’s all. Dolan is a big fish in a small pond.

Dolan is fairly new to the UFO field (at least from my perspective.) He became interested in about 1994. His acclaim in the field is due to one work: UFO’s and the National Security State, soon to be in two volumes, the second eagerly awaited. He has become a frequent speaker at UFO conventions and has written a few additional articles. These are all based on this single work.

So what is the thesis? Basically this: It’s all a conspiracy. The entire governmental security apparatus, from the founding of the CIA to compartmentalized information is a result of the government trying to keep a lid on the UFO issue. It’s not that we’ve never heard that, it’s just that Dolan has taken this issue to a new level of detail. He’s even more detailed than Timothy Good. Dolan is strictly a nuts & bolts guy and does not consider alternative hypotheses in the field. Sociological and psychological issues are beside the point to him.

So what is the problem? The problem is that Dolan appears to take all evidence at face value. He will quote Morris K. Jessup on an equal basis with Jacques Vallee. He will talk of Gray Barker on the same level as J. Allen Hynek. He puts Philip Corso at the same level as Jerome Clark. In other words, he does not seem to discriminate between sources. He considers them all valid. Rather than sifting through vast amounts of disinformation for the Truth, it’s more like he’s amassing a mound of evidence without regard to its veracity or corrabration. He doesn’t even allude to the possibility that there might be some problems with some of this evidence. The clowns are thrown in with the professors.

Dolan also comes to some dubious conclusions. It’s quite clear he believes James Forrestal was killed for his knowledge that he might spill the beans. And what about Ruppelt’s early death? No one dies of a heart attack at age 37. Hmmm. And James McDonald. Did he commit suicide, really, or was he murdered because he was getting too close to the secrets? This stuff is not corroborated at all. His standards of proof are way too low. This would not be allowed in academia. You wouldn’t be able to get away with this and be considered seriously.

The third problem is that Dolan is now a star. There is no doubt that his various speaking engagements are contributing to his reputation and, by extension, to the monetary rewards of being in the spotlight. His next volume might not make him a millionaire, but it will not be insignificant. For those of you who always jump at monetary involvement, you absolutely must consider this for Dolan as well as Greer.

The fourth problem is that Dolan appears to hang out with discredited people in the field. He shares the stage with people like Greer and Bassett. His theories dovetail nicely with the Exopolitics movement, a cargo cult if there ever was one. If you are known by the company you keep, this is bad news for Dolan. You may say, as he does, that to get the word out he must take advantage of opportunities to do so, but for many, this leaves a sour taste.

Dolan writes well and deserves much of the attention he has received. It's a cut above most Ufological literature. The bottom line is that Dolan’s work appeals to a certain segment of our culture. We all love a conspiracy, and when the government is at fault, we nod our heads sagely in agreement that we knew it all along. Dolan feeds into this world view with detailed facts that suffer from credulity. His focus is very narrow and his work is not nearly as academic and scholarly as it looks. Detail does not substitute for scrutiny and discrimination.

I will, of course, buy his next volume as soon as it is available.

Take this critique for what it is worth. If you don’t like it, that’s fine with me. I am NOT going to enter into one of those Hastings vs. Bishop quote fests that go on and on to no conclusion. I’ve spent over two hours writing this post and that’s the limit of my endurance.
 
I thought the first volume was excellently written; I think he is skeptical of government as any researcher should be, based on that work. He also tends not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, which is another hallmark of good research. LM Howe may not have much credibility with most, but does that mean that cattle mutilations don't exist? Dolan is one of the few guests I will listen to for the whole show. He is sane. He is not trying to be a ham or talk trash or inflate himself. Last time, Biedny got sour because Dolan disagreed with him, stewing on Dolan's notions of who is credible rather than responding to Dolan's line of argument about government secrecy, a main theme of his work! But I digress. I, for one, am eagerly awaiting Volume Two.
 
I think _UFOs and the National Security State_ is a valuable reference work in spite of its flaws. Just like in college -- you buy a textbook and use it in class, and the professor will sometimes bring up places where he/she disagrees and it becomes a subject for class discussion. I find him thoroughly articulate and well-spoken and I have great respect for him bringing even an imperfect scholarly approach to this contentious and poorly documented field. And I think coming to it from Cold War studies gives him credibility. I have two big problems with him, though:

His 9/11 conspiracy work casts doubt on the credibility of his "conspiracy-related" UFO work. Although he rightly states that it's a historian's job to interpret and infer, I think he connects the dots too quickly. There is also an "underground-base" conspiracy theorist named Richard Sauder which Dolan has repeatedly endorsed. I find that a little troubling.

OK, I don't want to upset Schuyler or the other forum members who seem to think that Karyn Dolan deserves a pass. I am not going to criticize her except to say that she seems more willing to believe certain ideas and concepts than Richard is. No sane husband will publicly disagree with his wife, certainly not in print. That may be preventing Richard from being openly critical of things he may privately be less comfortable with.
 
When I think of the life Rich could have taken as a University professor/historian/ whatever (he was a few years into his doctorate).... I definitely get the feeling he took the path of least resistance. Path of NO resistance?
 
When I think of the life Rich could have taken as a University professor/historian/ whatever (he was a few years into his doctorate).... I definitely get the feeling he took the path of least resistance. Path of NO resistance?

It can be tough. It takes a very long time, and when you're done there is no guarantee of a permanent appointment. Many academics wind up begging for adjunct faculty positions at low pay. Competition for positions is fierce, especially in a field like History where PhDs are a dime a dozen. A couple of my friends who went on to get PhDs either wound up not working in their field or wound up taking a low-paid position at an obscure private college in the Midwest. One guy with a PhD in Political Science works for Boeing well outside his field.

If you manage to get an Assistant Professorship at Harvard, here's what they do. You work there for six years. At the end of the six years Harvard writes to all faculty members everywhere in your specialty and asks them to rate you along with your peers. If you wind up on top, you get offered an associate position. If someone else winds up on top they go try to hire him. You are given an additional two-year extension on your assictant professorship, after which you are fired. A boyfriend of my wife's friend went to Harvard under these circumstances in an esoteric field within fisheries. I never heard what happened to him--just know his girlfriend wouldn't move with him, so they split up.
 
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