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Article:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=38368

Vid:
http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htmlmidatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htm
 
Paranormal Packrat said:
Article:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=38368

Vid:
http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htmlmidatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htm
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I read about this a few days ago, nothing conclusive of course but it does seem compelling. A plus is that the guy who filmed it seems like an ordinary and straight-forward kind of fellow. A minus is that people are associating it with the drone stuff that's been coming out.
 
I'm determined to keep an open mind, but I feel a little queasy about "it" happening to fly through the same 1/2 degree of sky containing the Moon while there just happens to be a lunar eclipse occurring.

That's a lot of coincidence.
 
BrandonD said:
Paranormal Packrat said:
Article:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=38368

Vid:
http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htmlmidatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-18-0019.htm
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I read about this a few days ago, nothing conclusive of course but it does seem compelling. A plus is that the guy who filmed it seems like an ordinary and straight-forward kind of fellow. A minus is that people are associating it with the drone stuff that's been coming out.
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I recommend not judging character on the bases of a few minutes of tv. The first time I saw Greer, Morten and even Ed Dames (loooong ago) I thought they seemed like likable people. But once I looked into them a little more, that all changed. We don't know anything about this guy, yet.

The "drone" may be cloud cover or a hoax. I only watched once. I tried again, the vid wouldn't work. I'll try again later.
 
After I found where the alleged 'Big Basin Drone' - photo was taken - and posted those here on another thread - I feel it's a BIG hoax- the whole Drone thing.

I wrote George Noory a few days before Linda Moulton Howe(LMH) was on C2C last 9/26/07 - sent him the 2 photos I took of the location, and sent a series of questions to ask LMH. I have heard nothing back- and he didn't bring it up on the show.

The initial description of the "Big Basin Drone" photo location provided by LMH - flat out doesn't match - this video image looks very close to the image on the Big Basin Drone. Unless LMH comes up with better information on the photographers and location descriptors - it's a FRAUD in my book. A hairpin curve on State Hwy 9 above a cliff, west of Saratoga,CA is not Big Basin State Park(BBSP) - and highly unlikely anybody would mistake it as such. 1) you don't have to pay to drive on this road( as one does inside BBSP) 2) how come this guy is the only one to catch something on video - one of the most photographed Full Moon Eclipse and nobody else saw anything....?
Dark Sky - and very unconvincing - too easy to 'add' something.

Gong!

MarsAve
 
MarsAve said:
After I found where the alleged 'Big Basin Drone' - photo was taken - and posted those here on another thread - I feel it's a BIG hoax- the whole Drone thing.

I wrote George Noory a few days before Linda Moulton Howe(LMH) was on C2C last 9/26/07 - sent him the 2 photos I took of the location, and sent a series of questions to ask LMH. I have heard nothing back- and he didn't bring it up on the show.

The initial description of the "Big Basin Drone" photo location provided by LMH - flat out doesn't match - this video image looks very close to the image on the Big Basin Drone. Unless LMH comes up with better information on the photographers and location descriptors - it's a FRAUD in my book. A hairpin curve on State Hwy 9 above a cliff, west of Saratoga,CA is not Big Basin State Park(BBSP) - and highly unlikely anybody would mistake it as such. 1) you don't have to pay to drive on this road( as one does inside BBSP) 2) how come this guy is the only one to catch something on video - one of the most photographed Full Moon Eclipse and nobody else saw anything....?
Dark Sky - and very unconvincing - too easy to 'add' something.

Gong!

MarsAve
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Thanks for mentioning that here.

Have you tried sending it in to Whitley Strieber? I wonder if he'd ignore it too. He has LMH on as his "science reporter"...snicker.
 
Ok,,that is a good suggestion - I will do that. Now that you mention that - I had been thinking along the lines of letting the investigators who have done a lot of research/media articles, 1st chance to examine what I had found - but now that you mentioned that - I will send this to 'many' others to look at and maybe offer their insights - and my whole goal on this is only for accuracy and truth in reporting. Since they choose not to answer, maybe another tactic will wake them up.

If it's found that the people sending the photos for the Big Basin Drone to Linda Moulton Howe didn't know where in the heck they were - (which I find hard to believe) then it ought to be reported accurately when found out and ( to be not the case,) by LMH and C2C and the others.

If they won't re-visit the original reports and photo submissions- when found to have new evidence presented- then they are only perptuating the Hoax - and that I don't like. They ought to be honest enough to come out and say, " ya know what guys and gals "- we're getting new evidence that cast doubt on the Big Basin Drone story- & Issac Story, also-and unless we get better evidence - it is looking like a Hoax"...The Capitola,CA Drone photos taken next the the PG&E Joint Pole(electric and phone lines attached make it a jointly owned telephone pole) made me think it was a phony picture for a number of reasons-- I have been looking for that location also in my spare time. Capitola is a very small town with few major roads - and PG&E told be that most joint poles that heavy with equipment, are usually only on the main roads....so my goal is to find this location(and I'll report later)

The big reason, as I follow articles on this story, is I did read somewhere that the person who took the Big Basin photo stated he stopped to take pictures of flowers - and just happened to see this UFO/Drone.......well, the location of the photo I found, is a hair-pin corner and drops almost straight down 200ft - there 'ain't' any flowers there - only road side weeds and typical CA coastal scub brush down below the road.....

I think I'll send these to an Investigative TV reporter....thanks for the suggestion. I had met him 2 years ago at his book signing and lecture at the Laughlin UFO show. Hmmmmmmmmmm....thanks for the suggestion....
 
That moon video was definitely interesting. I hope it doesn't get tied to that drone crap.

But hey, that music video of the drone animation was cool! The animation of the black and white graphic design was just beautiful.
 
from Brian Now:
"That moon video was definitely interesting. I hope it doesn't get tied to that drone crap."

Thanks for commenting, Brian Now - unfortunately - it may have to - since it looks similar to the other photos, if not almost identical. The inference is the same - so it will lead to that.

The reason I am calling it a fraud/hoax (and I posted before above with photo evidence) - is the size of this 'alleged drone' is very small in the video. If you have seen the photos posted earlier this year and in particular interest, the drone photo next to the telephone pole listed as Capitola,CA - the size of the drone is probably 10ft and probably less-depicted by what the person wanted us to think-though it is probably layered-cut and splice job--. What that means to me, is the video of the Moon Eclipse has got to be a Hoax. The dark sky is a perfect way to do the Hoax video. My earlier photos I posted on the other thread - is the main reason. The scale of the Big basin Drone - from where I took my photo vs where the original drone photo was 'allegedly taken' & just by looking at the 2 photos, puts the size of the drone at less than 3ft - though it looks fairly obvious the photo is layered- added on later- they tried to size it in to look like it was bigger. Once I saw that- where they took it, I knew right away it was a Hoax. They just picked the wrong area to try it - not knowing I'd see this and pick them apart- by having worked this area for many years.

My contact at PG&E( Pacific Gas & Electric Co.) says most PG&E Joint Poles are usually only 35' to 45' tall. So back to the Capitola,CA photo - the size relationship vs what they were trying to show us doesn't fit the scale. Hoaxed! The video posted here - based on what I have learned - this guy would have had to have been within 50ft of the Drone - but doesn't make any mention of it - unless I missed that in his description. That black background 'sure' was convenient, wasn't it..!!!!

Unless I see better explanations from the photo submitters - they are all Hoax'es and 'Isaac and CARET' is all phoney, also, because he tagged into it as being real.

MarsAve
 
Agree--too convenient--although as I recall, that's when all the Mexican UFO videos came out in '91 or '93, but that was a total SOLAR eclipse--either "they" know we're gonna be looking, or, yeah, it's just too easy to photoshop something in there, and hoax it.

Although someone brought up a really good point on one of these boards, that "Don't you know photos of UFOs are supposed to be out of focus, indistinct and crappy? Must not have read the memo"... but, yeah, why not, since everyone and his brother has a big 'ol high-def megapixel camera and camcorders are a dime a dozen--surely SOMEBODY is going to take good footage of one sooner or later... just not "Chad".
 
Thanks Gil - sounds good -

http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-09-29-0002.html

This new added video from Flemingsburg is assinine. I just wrote the TV reported and offered my opinion. The story and description is absurd from george Fisher- what a phoney he is...... It's obvious just to me, that he is filming a tree branch - that 'might be a bug' but no, he clicked his camera a coupla' times just to 'make sure' ......and then it disappeared!!! ( no mention of the earth rotation and the moon moving out of view.......D'oH!) This kind of reporting from WTVQ is disgraceful.......all it does is give the goons more outlets to push their phoney film and waste a lot of time. Like you said Gil...'everybody has a camera......"--the moon shadow is different in both video cuts..!!!

MArsAve
 
Astute observations.

You know, one thing this brings to mind, is that with the ubiquitous Internet access that seems to overshadow our morality, more people seem to be making money by hoaxing too-willing, not-discriminating people with this kind of stuff. It used to be that all the "But who stands to gain" musing about why anyone would hoax something like this no longer applies. Maybe people these days are willing to do just about anything to see their name on the web. It's like being on TV used to be.
Whaddya think?
 
from Gil:
"...Maybe people these days are willing to do just about anything to see their name on the web. It's like being on TV used to be.
Whaddya think? "

Sounds good to me, Gil..I can just see ole george fisher there....having the family over for a showin' of his "2" UFO"S in one video - how lucky was that...? The 'only' one to catch it - ain't he 'reel smert'......?

Worse than that is the Media biting on it...I bet that website has over a Million hits,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,D'oh!

MarsAve
 
A few posts ago someone was pointing out that there was only one video of this eclipse as evidence that it's a hoax. Now there are two videos (so far) and it's still a hoax. So how many videos do we need before we allow a little wiggle room in the ol' "could be" department?

Maybe this is where Ritzmann or Biedny step in with the expertise. Guys? Anything?
 
From Valiens:

A few posts ago someone was pointing out that there was only one video of this eclipse as evidence that it's a hoax. Now there are two videos (so far) and it's still a hoax. So how many videos do we need before we allow a little wiggle room in the ol' "could be" department?

Valiens: can you clarify what you were saying - I don't understand if you are saying these are Hoax'es - or if you think they may be real. The reason being - the Flemingsberg video is of a tree branch - no matter what they said on the TV report - it's a scam -the 2 'alleged' UFO's don't even resemble each other.

MarsAve
 
Funny things happen during Lunar and solar events, if it indeed is a real
UFO or " drone". It seems some intelligence wants to show itself
in correlation with these events, whether its ours or theirs.
 
MarsAve said:
From Valiens:

A few posts ago someone was pointing out that there was only one video of this eclipse as evidence that it's a hoax. Now there are two videos (so far) and it's still a hoax. So how many videos do we need before we allow a little wiggle room in the ol' "could be" department?

Valiens: can you clarify what you were saying - I don't understand if you are saying these are Hoax'es - or if you think they may be real. The reason being - the Flemingsberg video is of a tree branch - no matter what they said on the TV report - it's a scam -the 2 'alleged' UFO's don't even resemble each other.

MarsAve
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I'm not saying they aren't hoaxes I'm saying that it seems like whether they are or not we really aren't willing to give these things the time of day, just pretending to like debunkers.
 
Mar 30 2008 Report This!
THERE IS NOT JUST ONE drone, there are 14 drones that were all reported on from May to date. None of them have any source of propulsion. This Capitola story is only one of many. For a more in depth explanation on all drones
Google Alien Casebook - Home
and then go to the "Isaac and the Drones" board.

Just yesterday, the private investigators who are seeking the pole in the Capitola drone, found the photo locations for two other drones. These were in Saratoga California and the story and pictures are here. http://aliencasebook.blogspot.com

time will tell
 
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