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Drug hallucinations look real in the brain

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Xylo

Paranormal Adept
I know that there are those who are interested in DMT and the "spiritual" side of it's use. I found this article and thought it was interesting, even though I am not particularly interested in this subject.

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The visions induced by an Amazonian brew used by shamans may be as real as anything the eyes actually see, according to brain scans of frequent users of the drug.

Draulio de Araujo of the Brain Institute at the Federal University of Rio Grande do Norte in Natal, Brazil, and colleagues recruited 10 frequent users of the brew – called ayahuasca. They asked the volunteers to look at images of people or animals while their brains were scanned using functional MRI, then asked the volunteers to close their eyes and imagine they were still viewing the image. Unsurprisingly, the researchers found that neural activity in the primary visual cortex dropped off when volunteers imagined seeing the image rather than actually viewing it.

But when the team then gave the volunteers a dose of ayahuasca and repeated the experiment, they found that the level of activity in the primary visual cortex was virtually indistinguishable when the volunteers were really viewing an image and when they were imagining it. This means visions seen have a real, neurological basis, says de Araujo – they are not made up or imagined.

Michael Brammer
, head of the brain imaging unit at King's College London, says the study's statistics appear to indicate something relatively robust. However, he says it's difficult to pin down whether the eyes-closed responses on the drug are quantitatively the same as normal, eyes-open neural activity. "Functional MRI is not a one-to-one mapping of cerebral activity. If it were, things would be easier," he says.

Robin Carhart-Harris
of Imperial College London has done similar fMRI work using the "magic mushroom" hallucinogen psilocybin. He says the results also have practical implications, such as for the application of psychedelics in psychotherapy.
Ayahuasca may also find its way into the psychiatrist's drug kit. The pharmacology of its ingredients tallies with the way some conventional drugs work; because of this, researchers are interested in ayahuasca's potential for treating addiction, depression or conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder. One of the brew's two ingredients is the vine Banisteriopsis caapi, which contains chemicals that act as monoamine oxidase inhibitors – a major class of antidepressant drugs. The other ingredient is the shrub Psychotria viridis: it contains the powerful hallucinogen DMT (dimethyltryptamine), which acts on the mood-altering serotonergic system, the target of antidepressants such as Prozac.
Journal reference: Human Brain Mapping, DOI: 10.1002/hbm.21381





 
... But when the team then gave the volunteers a dose of ayahuasca and repeated the experiment, they found that the level of activity in the primary visual cortex was virtually indistinguishable when the volunteers were really viewing an image and when they were imagining it. This means visions seen have a real, neurological basis, says de Araujo – they are not made up or imagined ...


Xylo,

It seems that the assumption, "This means visions seen have a real, neurological basis," is somewhat misleading in that it implies the thing being hallucinated is "real" when there is no "real" thing there. In actuality what the experiment is showing is that these visions are produced by neurological activity in a brain stimulated by a hallucinogen. The Visual Cortex receives stimuli not only from the optic nerves, but also from the brain stem in the form of PGO waves which cause much of the imagery in our dream states. So if the experiment is indeed showing that these so-called spiritual visions are produced by neurological reactions to hallucinogens, then all we are proving is that the "spiritual realm" is a neurological construct and is all in our imagination. It isn't "real" in any objective way that is separate from the experiencer.
 
Xylo,

It seems that the assumption, "This means visions seen have a real, neurological basis," is somewhat misleading in that it implies the thing being hallucinated is "real" when there is no "real" thing there. In actuality what the experiment is showing is that these visions are produced by neurological activity in a brain stimulated by a hallucinogen. The Visual Cortex receives stimuli not only from the optic nerves, but also from the brain stem in the form of PGO waves which cause much of the imagery in our dream states. So if the experiment is indeed showing that these so-called spiritual visions are produced by neurological reactions to hallucinogens, then all we are proving is that the "spiritual realm" is a neurological construct and is all in our imagination. It isn't "real" in any objective way that is separate from the experiencer.

I completely agree with you. I also thought that the sample size of: "recruited 10 frequent users of the brew – called ayahuasca." was quite small and there was no control group. It certainly seems to be a very shallow study, but still interesting that scientists would even look at this, further that it would be published in a fairly well respected online journal.
 
I see another assumption here. It may be that it is not created 'neurologically, but that is the system ​through which it operates. One could as well say that the eyes are the creator of what's seen, don't you think?
 
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