Exclusive: NASA Scientist Claims Evidence of Alien Life on Meteorite

[Skymon876]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...entists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/

We are not alone in the universe -- and alien life forms may have a lot more in common with life on Earth than we had previously thought.
That's the stunning conclusion one NASA scientist has come to, releasing his groundbreaking revelations in a new study in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.
Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, gave FoxNews.com early access to the out-of-this-world research, published late Friday evening in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology. In it, Hoover describes the latest findings in his study of an extremely rare class of meteorites, called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites -- only nine such meteorites are known to exist on Earth.

 

[rebar]

... just another reason why the comments of former NASA Administrator, Michael Griffin, are so depressing. In 2007, he hinted that a US manned mission to Mars won't happen until 2037 at the earliest. But since it will be a government project, that really means the 2040s - maybe.

Social welfare programs (SS, Medicare, etc.) and interest on the debt may likely consume the financial resources of the US by the 2030s, so the thought of a manned mission to Mars in the next 50 years might be ridiculous anyway.

 

[NTS]

We can search for life on Mars (and elsewhere) with unmanned missions, for a fraction of the cost of manned ones. There may be good reasons for manned flights to Mars (although missions to nearby asteroids would make more sense), but searching for life isn't one of them. As for it being a government project, don't expect private industry to step up until there's a surefire way to make money at it.

SS can be fixed with some minor tweaking (e.g. removing the wage cap). The idea that it's in big trouble is a Republican/conservative Democrat lie. Medicare (really the cost of health care generally) is a much bigger problem. Without a system that covers everyone and has a low-overhead, transparent payment mechanism (i.e. universal single-payer) we can't even start to rationally look at cost control. Having blown our recent chance to get real reform (ObamaCare just subsidizes the current mess) it may be a long while until that happens. And sadly people will suffer and die because of it.

 

[Anaximander]

Thanks for making this thread in the main forum Ry.

I love this mars stuff.

Here are some of the picture from the paper of the potential alien microbe fossils:



(The bottom one is from Earth. The mars one is at top)


Get the paper here - there are plenty of pics!

Journal of Cosmology


In it you'll find quotes like this:

[SIZE=+1] Many of the filaments shown in the figures are clearly embedded in the meteorite rock matrix. Consequently, it is concluded that the Orgueil filaments cannot logically be interpreted as representing filamentous cyanobacteria that invaded the meteorite after its arrival. They are therefore interpreted as the indigenous remains of microfossils that were present in the meteorite rock matrix when the meteorite entered the Earth�s atmosphere[/SIZE]

More pics:



And this one:



And this:



And this:




These are all suspected alien microbes.....

This is really strange, seeing scientists talk about this.


Another quote, this time regarding the filaments seen above:

[SIZE=+1] Consequently, the detection of heterocysts provides clear and convincing evidence that the filaments are not only unambiguously biological but that they belong to one of these two orders of cyanobacteria rather than trichomic ensheathed sulfur bacteria or any other group of filamentous trichomic prokaryotes[/SIZE]

 

[exo_doc]

I don't know a lot about meteors or meteorites, but I take it carbonaceous chondrites are not from the earth, correct?
What I mean is, couldn't this meteorite be cooled melted rock from an impact on earth say a couple of billion years ago?
Some of the bigger inpacts, such as the one that created the moon, slung earthly material all around the solar system, and if I remember correctly, earth has had life for at least 3 billion years.
Sooooo, my thinking is that it's at least possible we're looking at microfossils from right here.
And if we do find microscopic, or bigger, life on the other planets, how can we be sure it didn't spread there by impact debris distribution from dear old Terra Firma??

 

[Anaximander]

Sooooo, my thinking is that it's at least possible we're looking at microfossils from right here.

Did you read the paper before coming to that determination?

 

[rebar]

We can search for life on Mars (and elsewhere) with unmanned missions, for a fraction of the cost of manned ones ...

Very true. Given that some country makes an "honest" effort to do so, its likely that we'll have an answer on current or ancient life on Mars several years before humans first visit. It's just that I'm in the same age range as decker and hoped that I would live long enough to see a manned mission.

This planet has a finite lifespan and with the uncertaintaies posed by Yellowstone, rogue comets, asteroids, nukes and such -- it's just a matter of time before before we're whacked or whack ourselves. Hopefully, we'll have a permanent colony on Mars before then. If we're around in a couple hundred years, I would expect that we'll have the beginnings of a permanent outpost. As Tonnies has said, at some point there may eventually be people living on Mars who've never set foot on the Earth. It's fascinating to think how they will evolve to adapt. How would they deal with a visit to Earth after several generations? Hopefully, they don't declare war on us and attack New Jersey!

 

[NTS]

I'm in my mid-50's myself, so yeah, I understand the press of time on these things! I hope I at least live to see the discovery of life elsewhere, however we do it.

There's been a lot of speculation about life spreading on meteorites from Mars to Earth, and vice versa. The thing about Mars is that it's smaller and has lower gravity, so it would be easier for rock to get knocked off Mars and eventually reach Earth, rather than going the other way. But either is possible.

Maybe life only gets started in a few very favorable places, and eventually spreads to more hostile worlds. Maybe that's the usual pattern rather than every world originating its own life. It'll take centuries at least to know for sure. Something for our children's children's children to figure out.

 

[exo_doc]

Did you read the paper before coming to that determination?

Sure I did. It says "the Orgueil filaments cannot logically be interpreted as representing filamentous cyanobacteria that invaded the meteorite after its arrival. They are therefore interpreted as the indigenous remains of microfossils that were present in the meteorite rock matrix when the meteorite entered the Earth�s atmosphere."

I wasn't postulating invasion after the meteorite hit, I just thought it was a possibilty the fossils were from Earth, blown into space by a comet or asteroid collision, then it found it's way back to Earth.
But, I also stated I do not know much about meteors.
I just thought it was something to consider. I would love for the fossils to be alien, but just trying to cover the bases.<!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote -->