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FBI memo

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Paranormal Adept
Whats your thoughts on this, real or fake

http://www.starpod.org/Slideshow/1004051ss.htm

Official Memorandum: United States Government
To: Director, FBI
From: Guy Hottel, SA, Washington
Subject: Flying Saucers, Information Concerning
The following information was furnished to SA [remainder of line redacted]
An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine structure. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.
According to [redacted] informant, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controling mechanism of the saucers.
No further evaluation was attempted by SA [redacted] concerning the above.

http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy%20Hottel%20Part%201%20of%201/view

http://vault.fbi.gov/unexplained-phenomenon
 
The memo is real and does exist - it's just that Hottel was hoaxed also.

Nice site, btw, that FBI vault one. It's interesting that they would have a category "unexplained phenomenon" (sic). The Majestic 12 section has a few documents with the word BOGUS written across them. My opinion is they are bogus but why the FBI would include this is, to me, odd.
I tend to agree with Boomerang, it's all disinfo.
 
That is how it looks to me, there is no suggestion the memo is wrong.
Im rather confused by this whole case.
The author does appear to be stating as a fact that this event took place

He states an "investigator for the air forces stated that 3 so called flying saucers had been recovered in new mexico"

I still dont know what to make of this
 
The article in FT details what appears to have happened. It is a somewhat convoluted tale, much like the FOA ("friend of a friend") urban legends. I was going to copy/paste but I don't want to fill up the page with a long post. Please read the article and you'll see what it all means.

Hottler most likely wrote that it was an air force source because that was the rumor about the story at the time. As with many things in the UFO community, the more you look into it, the curiouser it gets. No wonder so many people seem to lose their sanity after extensive UFO investigations!
 
http://skepdic.com/aztec.html
Seems to be the Aztec scam:
http://www.nmsr.org/aztec.htm

Even though the Aztec story is more pitiful than the Roswell legend, which at least involves some physical evidence, elements of Aztec still remain in popular UFO culture. On May 31st and June 1st, 1998, on the nationally-syndicated radio programs Dreamland and The Art Bell Show, noted UFO researcher Linda Moulton Howe described a secret FBI memo from March 22nd, 1950, written to J. Edgar Hoover himself. Memo author Guy Hottel, of SAC, described an investigator's report of a flying saucer recovery in New Mexico, with mention of three saucers, three-foot tall bodies, metallic cloth, and bandaged alien bodies. The crash was supposedly due to interference from high-powered radar. But all of these elements (saucers, aliens, cloth and tape, radar site) have been firmly traced to the yarns spun by our two swindlers! William Moore even traced how the story got from Silas Newton to J. Edgar Hoover: Newton told George Koehler (employed at radio station KMYR in Denver), who told Morley Davies, who told Ford dealers Murphy and van Horn, who told auto dealer Fick, who told the editor of the Kansas City Wyandotte Echo. By that time, Koehler had become "Coulter," just like a game of "gossip" (or a game of "pi")! This article was picked up in the news, where it caught the interest of the OSI. The OSI agent passed the story on to Guy Hottel of the FBI, and he gave the 8th-hand story to Hoover.
 
It's appropriate that the Director's name was "Hoover" because his obsession was with vacuuming up dirt. He often wasn't choosy about the quality of it.
 
Whitley Streiber has weighed in on the memo


The memo is debunked here and seemingly very convincingly. However, the article states, "In 1998 Linda Mouton Howe, a documentary filmmaker, claimed to have government documents proving that an alien ship had landed in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947. That proof was the Hottel memo." Linda told me today that this claim is false. The Hottel memo has played, at most a minor part in her work. So how much of the rest of this article is true? Any of it?


Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/game-changing-fbi-memo#ixzz1JGTYkRuf


Debunks, and debunks of debunks.....

Truly a tangled web this one.....
 
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