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I've just listened to the show and ATP. I appreciate this show because it helps me get a grasp of the kind of person Mr. Strieber is. I agree with you Gene, that Strieber is convinced that he underwent events that are in some way objective during his "communion" experiences with the "visitors." But I am surprised that Strieber is now effectively taking orders from the visitors: he said he wrote this latest book with no expectation of sales, but only to present the message of the visitors to the select readers who would read it, and that perhaps that would provide the necessary conditions for the visitors to make a bigger, more obvious splash in this world. IMHO Mr. Strieber is too confident for his own good, saying that he still doesn't know who or what the visitors are, but sure of their message for the advancement of humanity. How can he be sure? I think Chris' ATP observation that Strieber did not say anything much of substance is fair, yet I think Strieber is convinced he is helping to reveal secrets of the holy of holies. Thanks Chris, btw, for presenting my questions, though I still have no idea why he thinks the Greys are profoundly submitted to God. And also I appreciated the question about Gurdjief and Strieber's own attempt at transformation. These things clarify, to me anyway, where the guy is coming from.

<blockquote data-quote="William Strathmann" data-source="post: 239581" data-attributes="member: 9195">I&#039;ve just listened to the show and ATP.&nbsp; I appreciate this show because it helps me get a grasp of the kind of person Mr. Strieber is. I agree with you Gene, that Strieber is convinced that he underwent events that are in some way objective during his &quot;communion&quot; experiences with the &quot;visitors.&quot; But I am surprised that Strieber is now effectively taking orders from the visitors: he said he wrote this latest book with no expectation of sales, but only to present the message of the visitors to the select readers who would read it, and that perhaps that would provide the necessary conditions for the visitors to make a bigger, more obvious splash in this world.&nbsp; IMHO Mr. Strieber is too confident for his own good, saying that he still doesn&#039;t know who or what the visitors are, but sure of their message for the advancement of humanity. How can he be sure? I think Chris&#039; ATP observation that Strieber did not say anything much of substance is fair, yet I think Strieber is convinced he is helping to reveal secrets of the holy of holies. Thanks Chris, btw, for presenting my questions, though I still have no idea why he thinks the Greys are profoundly submitted to God. And also I appreciated the question about Gurdjief and Strieber&#039;s own attempt at transformation. These things clarify, to me anyway, where the guy is coming from.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="William Strathmann, post: 239581, member: 9195"] I've just listened to the show and ATP. I appreciate this show because it helps me get a grasp of the kind of person Mr. Strieber is. I agree with you Gene, that Strieber is convinced that he underwent events that are in some way objective during his "communion" experiences with the "visitors." But I am surprised that Strieber is now effectively [I]taking orders[/I] from the visitors: he said he wrote this latest book with no expectation of sales, but only to present the message of the visitors to the select readers who would read it, and that perhaps that would provide the necessary conditions for the visitors to make a bigger, more obvious splash in this world. IMHO Mr. Strieber is too confident for his own good, saying that he still doesn't know who or what the visitors are, but sure of their message for the advancement of humanity. How can he be sure? I think Chris' ATP observation that Strieber did not say anything much of substance is fair, yet I think Strieber is convinced he is helping to reveal secrets of the holy of holies. Thanks Chris, btw, for presenting my questions, though I still have no idea why he thinks the Greys are profoundly submitted to God. And also I appreciated the question about Gurdjief and Strieber's own attempt at transformation. These things clarify, to me anyway, where the guy is coming from. [/QUOTE]

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