Have You Been Tested?

[NNN]

If there are any aliens interested in discovering which ways we are capable of behaving it seems that some of their testing could be responsible for many people's strange experiences. Although this is not a new idea, I think that it is an idea well worth a lot of attention.

This is from a different thread: "My question is..if they're so advanced why are they doing any physical tests on the level of a highschool biology class?" The (supposed) aliens seem to have limits as to how they treat people and, perhaps, those limits are something that many of us would object to.

The reason why they test people the way they do is, possibly, because their types of tests are well-suited to finding out things while remaining, in an overall way, at a certain distance from us as a culture.

It is worth remembering, here, that there could be aliens visiting with different views and different laws. Perhaps particular species are prone to particular types of 'faults' which could explain why the severity of some of the tests seems very harsh(or worse). Otherwise, the implication is that they are extremely detached from what they do to test people.

From another thread: "They probably don't give a damn what you & I want."....One way to argue against this is to suggest any persistently successful alien society may have had to develop a much more pleasant and environmentally sensible approach to life in order to gain the success they have. Would they have made it that far if they persisted with an unsustainable society? How would the transformation into a sustainable society affect their attitudes and beliefs?

Would they really end up as a society that didn't care whatsoever? I find it difficult to see how a society that depended on caring about things for its survival would end up not caring. But still there may be cultural differences(extremes) between societies.

I'm interested to know what anybody else thinks about my suggestions. If you get the urge to criticize them harshly then so be it!:

 

[Siani]

If the abduction phenomenon is indeed linked to actual physical abductions by extra-terrestrial beings, I imagine they might have no more regard for us, than our scientists would have for laboratory rats. You might find some who were kinder and showed their 'rats' a bit more respect/kindness, but you could well find others who viewed us as way too primitive to be worthy of any respect. I have no idea what lies behind the abduction phenomenon, but if it is ETs, I always find myself asking the same question: why should they care about us? Then again, many humans care about creatures they consider inferior, so I guess someone else could just as easily ask why shouldn't they?

Sorry - that type of non-commital response probably isn't what you were looking for .

 

[Kieran]

I believe Abuctions have ten to five percent probability out of a hundred.I believe history has too many case's of this type of phenomen.So in otherwords i believe it is a real phenomen, but unexplained.

However the Greys seem to me at least, be carrying out tests ' just like what a scientist would do?. However there type of research is probably way out there on a level ' we probably will never understand! .They seem to be Explorers who are intrigued by us as a species? .

Maybe the creation of a type of new species is what is going on. Maybe a hybrid of both species is needed before contact can be achieved on a mainstream level? .The Blondes could be the result of the process achieved by the Greys? . I am laughing here to myself "because the theory's i am talking about here are way out there by itself.

I dont believe the so called blondes are real blondes anyway!. They probably do look strikeing however.!

I am intrigued by Cattle mutilations. Goverments are evil by there nature. What are they hideing by there Action's? this is a unsolved mystery, is it true, who knows.I guess if i go back to my Alien hybrid analyse. What do Aliens eat? Havent got a better term here for alien!. however if you have some type of hybrid , it probably needs nourishment. Cows, goats,pigs, they all contain stuff we humans eat!.

Dont now what a Alien eats but i guess it might be different or they might not need to eat at all.A new born hybrid probably needs liquids.Best form of that is either through a cow or goat by way of it's milk.

It probably my guess they would not go to the local convience store to get it
A my theories ae outlandish, i have no prove ,it is all speculation

 

[skunkape]

I have found myself in lucid dreaming situation that felt like some sort of psychological test. When I say lucid, I mean just as seemingly real as the moment I'm in as I type this. The scenario began with my "waking" in the back of a limousine...there are two bench seats facing each other and I'm on the passenger side in the rearmost seat. There is a man to left and man in the opposing seat, both wearing dark suits. I've found myself in other scenarios with these "suits", and I can never see their faces...as if I physically can't direct my eyes toward them. We pull over and the door beside me opens and standing there, in heavy rain, is what appears at first to be a very small, thin child wearing a grey hooded sweatshirt and blue sweat pants...can't recall the shoes . I extend a hand to help the child into the car and she swats my hand away and hops into the car. It's not a child, but a woman, maybe 2 1/2 foot tall. Her skin is reddish-tan caucasian...middle-aged and weathered like she'd spent too much time at beach in her youth. When she pulls off the hood off, a mass of long, frizzy, brown hair spills out. She would pass for a human with some sort of chromosomal defect...progeria maybe. Fascinated, I ask her "Are you a leprechaun?" She seems to find my question funny as a fart in space suit. I ask her name and she replies "Heilen" with her little helium voice. She speaks to the "suits" in what sounds like Gaelic or Welsh.
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I'm in a house...an older place...hardwood floors...blank white walls...a long narrow hallway with squarish rooms on either side. This little woman guides me through the house and out the back door. There are others, some I recognize, standing on the back deck. Incongruously, there is some sort of large, refinery-type complex a few hundred yards away.

There is a loud cracking sound and a stream of high pressure flame begins erupting from a ruptured pipe in the refinery. I can see that at least one man is down...several workers rush in to assist. My first impulse is to dash in and help get people out, but some part of me knows that the whole place is going to explode. My reaction to this situation seems to be what is being measured. I decide, out of fear for my own life, not to rush in. Seconds later the whole place goes up in flame. All the workers are killed. If I had attemted to help, I would have been killed. I feel like a coward all the same. I am guided back into the house and put to bed where I instantly fall to sleep.
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I'm standind in a field in the shade of an oak tree. Heilen is now wearing a silver suit and holding a helmet...it seems more like a fire-suit or radiation-suit than a space suit. We bid a brief farewell and she climbs into this bizarre craft. It looks basically like a tetrahedron, about 8 foot tall, made of balsa wood and skinned with silver mylar...more like a kite than an aircraft. She lifts one side of thing, not a door, the whole side was just a flap, and seats herself on a chair facing a control panel in middle of the thing. The craft levitates about ten foot up, tips a little on it's axis, and the little woman waves bye. The door flap seals to the frame, the craft transforms into a ball of light and zips off into a clear blue sky.
CUT TO:
I wake up in bed.

 

[Kieran]

I have found myself in lucid dreaming situation that felt like some sort of psychological test. When I say lucid, I mean just as seemingly real as the moment I'm in as I type this. The scenario began with my "waking" in the back of a limousine...there are two bench seats facing each other and I'm on the passenger side in the rearmost seat. There is a man to left and man in the opposing seat, both wearing dark suits. I've found myself in other scenarios with these "suits", and I can never see their faces...as if I physically can't direct my eyes toward them. We pull over and the door beside me opens and standing there, in heavy rain, is what appears at first to be a very small, thin child wearing a grey hooded sweatshirt and blue sweat pants...can't recall the shoes . I extend a hand to help the child into the car and she swats my hand away and hops into the car. It's not a child, but a woman, maybe 2 1/2 foot tall. Her skin is reddish-tan caucasian...middle-aged and weathered like she'd spent too much time at beach in her youth. When she pulls off the hood off, a mass of long, frizzy, brown hair spills out. She would pass for a human with some sort of chromosomal defect...progeria maybe. Fascinated, I ask her "Are you a leprechaun?" She seems to find my question funny as a fart in space suit. I ask her name and she replies "Heilen" with her little helium voice. She speaks to the "suits" in what sounds like Gaelic or Welsh.
CUT TO:
I'm in a house...an older place...hardwood floors...blank white walls...a long narrow hallway with squarish rooms on either side. This little woman guides me through the house and out the back door. There are others, some I recognize, standing on the back deck. Incongruously, there is some sort of large, refinery-type complex a few hundred yards away.

There is a loud cracking sound and a stream of high pressure flame begins erupting from a ruptured pipe in the refinery. I can see that at least one man is down...several workers rush in to assist. My first impulse is to dash in and help get people out, but some part of me knows that the whole place is going to explode. My reaction to this situation seems to be what is being measured. I decide, out of fear for my own life, not to rush in. Seconds later the whole place goes up in flame. All the workers are killed. If I had attemted to help, I would have been killed. I feel like a coward all the same. I am guided back into the house and put to bed where I instantly fall to sleep.
CUT TO:
I'm standind in a field in the shade of an oak tree. Heilen is now wearing a silver suit and holding a helmet...it seems more like a fire-suit or radiation-suit than a space suit. We bid a brief farewell and she climbs into this bizarre craft. It looks basically like a tetrahedron, about 8 foot tall, made of balsa wood and skinned with silver mylar...more like a kite than an aircraft. She lifts one side of thing, not a door, the whole side was just a flap, and seats herself on a chair facing a control panel in middle of the thing. The craft levitates about ten foot up, tips a little on it's axis, and the little woman waves bye. The door flap seals to the frame, the craft transforms into a ball of light and zips off into a clear blue sky.
CUT TO:
I wake up in bed.

Crazy story dude! . I had a dream ,but it was not concise. It was dismorning, before i woke . I was dreaming about a nuclear war and it involved the Russians. Dreams are f..... up, they dont make sense.

 

[Ally]

Skunkape,
Interesting lucid dream indeed. Could you by any chance smell the smoke from the explosion or was it all visual. Did you ever touch the being at all or the walls of the house?

I have noticed from all and there are many of these types of lucid dreams that most things can seem as real as waking life except water. If I am drinking, wading or swimming in water it doesn't feel at all like real life and at times that is an indicator that something is off.

It does seem that something is being tested in these types of dreams.

 

[mike]

perhaps we are feral gene stock.
once you start living in an artificial bio sphere your mutations would prob decrease.

makes sense to put some "hardy" stock in an environment where the mutation factor was higher and then keep an eye on it and "harvest" the mutations that are valuable to you

 

[skunkape]

Skunkape,
Could you by any chance smell the smoke from the explosion or was it all visual. Did you ever touch the being at all or the walls of the house?

The accident scenario that played out seemed very much like a "projection"
The inside of the limousine and the interior of the house seemed solid...I repeatedly touched and knocked on my surroundings to test if this was real or a dream...it all seemed quite solid. The little woman did not want to be touched...she would shoo me away, irritatedly, when I tried to touch her. Before she flew off, as we were saying our brief goodbye, she quickly shook my right pointer finger with her tiny hand. I was under the impression that she had some good reason for not wanting to be touched...I questioned in my head if it was because of her frail size she was afraid I could injure her or if she just thought I was repulsive to touch.

 

[NNN]

By Siani: "Sorry - that type of non-commital response probably isn't what you were looking for ."

Strictly speaking, I wasn't looking for any particular type of response. However, I do wonder what sways people towards the idea that Aliens are likely to be more barbaric and, conversely, what sways people to think they might be less barbaric. Some people may think that they can not honestly decide which is more likely(in the context of an advanced society). Much science fiction portrays such advanced societies as containing people of(what some of us might call) dubious character. How much does this sort of fiction sway our ponderings and create doubt within our conclusions. Are we genetically predisposed to more optimism or less of it? Do we believe that our abilities to be less pleasant will remain ingrained in our society no matter what?(And, probably, therefore, alien societies would be similarly afflicted?)

It would be a bold step for someone to make a prediction based on current knowledge of genetics. The same may be claimed concerning the psycho-cultural effects of being brought up in a society which was very unlike our own, today. However, in observing what we know of our history, alterations in the overall(more acceptable) attitudes do seem to take place over time and the general trend is towards less barbarism. Maybe this could change, unfortunately, but how far can the population of an overcrowded planet afford to head back to the law of the wilderness. I strongly suspect that it would be in few people's interest to allow such a degradation of the prevailing structure of society; therefore, such degradation would probably(or preferably) be prevented.

One important thing to consider is what is considered to be civilised? Even amongst a group of friends, there may be some striking differences in their opinions about civilised behaviour. But looking at the world from an international point of view I think that the overall cultural differences between nations are, steadily, decreasing. Does a necessary global approach make this inevitable and, if so, does it make for the road to harmony(and a practicle approach to resources) becoming a more and more attractive route? Does being more cooperative mean that there is, by default, a more civilised approach?

 

[NNN]

By Irishseekers: "What do Aliens eat?"
And: "It probably my guess they would not go to the local convience store to get it"

I am tending to think that eating our food would almost certainly be considered a health risk and they would probably only eat our food in an emergency..

As for the types of animal mutilations that I have heard of some Aliens would have to have very strange tastes in food for them to eat the sorts of body parts they take!

"Well cooked anus? Where's the $#~ fillet steak? You left it there? The crew is starving and you're incompetent!"