Helicopters?

[Anubis]

I was reading the "10 Questions for Experiencers" forum and saw something that I would really like to ask the forum members about. The question I have is in regards to an experience that happened 14 or so years ago that I never have talked about.

GilBavel wrote:
Yeah, could've just been a helicopter. Dangerous activity to be performing those kind of manuevers in a populated area, though. In Leah Haley's books and Karla Turner's books, there are reports of things that look like helicopters but obviously aren't--for instance, they have no rotors, things like that. So, who knows?

As I previously stated, this happened about 14 years ago. I was working security in a new subdivision that was under construction. My friend that was present during the Salem's Lot incident I posted previously was my shift relief. My shift that night was uneventful, and I stayed about 10-15 minutes joking around with my friend when he relieved me.

It was when I drove my car and drove to the subdivision exit when things went sideways. At this time, the north end of town was not very built up, and the subdivision was being built on what used to be farmland. The subdivision entrance came to a road that went east/west, and immediately across from the exit (south from me) was another small field. As I drove up to the intersection, I noticed the most bizarre looking "helicopter" I had ever seen in my life. I use the term helicopter because this is the only think I can think of that it resembled. It kind of had the general shape of those helicopters with the round plastic "bubble" around the cockpit that you see in old 80's TV serials. However, it was larger (maybe 30-35 feet long, though I could be a little off with the size), and the plastic "bubble" was made of different coloured panels that were all glowing (red, green and yellow). The body of the craft tapered down more or less like a helicopter does, with more weirdly glowing panels on its sides. It was hovering about 20 feet in the air, approximately 50 feet from where I was sitting at the stop sign. It made no noise and did not have a rotor visible anywhere on it. It hovered in the air much like you would expect a helicopter to, as the "bubble" sat lower in the air than the "tail" did.

As I sat there, I distictly remember having the feeling that I could not believe what my eyes were seeing. It was like my mind was simly refusing to process what I was looking at. After maybe 10 or 15 seconds (it is really hard to remember), it silently rose in the air, turned to the south and started flying off. At that point, I turned my car eastbound, as the next major road heading south was about 100 feet to my left. I took off and turned south, speeding up to catch another glimpse of the thing. However, despite being not much but farm fields in the area, I could did not see it again. I ended up driving home thinking what it was that I just witnessed, and decided against telling anyone about it.

I have never read either of the authors GilBavel mentioned, and was curious if similar craft were described by these authors, or if anyone else had ever heard of anything similar before. The entire episode really has me wondering what I really saw that night. Any insight you may have would be greatly appreciated.

 

[mikec]

This is interesting. If I remember correctly, these curious NON-helicopters shows up in the book NIGHT SEIGE. And they show up in the cattle mutilation phenomenon.

The implication of these sightings seems to be that "they" are attempting to disguise their "craft" to be less obtrusive to us, so that maybe we could even dismissed any sighting outright.

The fact that it was silent is very consistent, as was the fact that it disappeared abruptly.

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Could you draw a picture of it? Even a quick scribble would be really helpful.

 

[skunkape]

I wish the choppers that occasionally hang around my place were the silent models. I've thought one was gonna rip my freaking roof off once it was so loud.

 

[Gareth]

To go really out into conspiracy land for a minute, what if the military really has had anti-grav technology for a long while. Assuming that, and that they are responsible for cattle mutilations for reasons only they know, what if they designed some anti-grav craft that looked somewhat like a helicopter? They only flew them at night to minimise sightings and any sightings that did occur would draw much less atttention due to the instantly recognisable shape...

Just a thought.

 

[skunkape]

To go really out into conspiracy land for a minute, what if the military really has had anti-grav technology for a long while. Assuming that, and that they are responsible for cattle mutilations for reasons only they know, what if they designed some anti-grav craft that looked somewhat like a helicopter? They only flew them at night to minimise sightings and any sightings that did occur would draw much less atttention due to the instantly recognisable shape...

Just a thought.

I've witnessed a morphing cluster of lights that at one point appeared to be a small airplane or ultralight with Christmas lights draped all over it. That most definitely is not what it was.

 

[Anubis]

Thanks for the insights. I forgot to mention that this was approx. midnight when I saw this object and for some reason the memory is really hazy (I think that may have had something to do with my disbelief of what I witnessed). I am at work right now, but I will post a sketch of what it resembeled tomorrow (keep in mind my drawing skills suck something awful).

 

[Tom From Hong Kong]

Given all the discussion on this Forum recently about abductions, I downloaded a copy of Budd Hopkins' Sight Unseen to read up on the topic.

Towards the end of the book Hopkins details the case of "Will", a farmer from rural Wisconsin who, along with his wife, undergoes a 1974 abduction experience which is initiated by several apparent unmarked helicopters landing down in his field, near to the place where his wife was taking a daytime nap. Will and his wife were described as simple but intelligent people who were fundamentally honest. Upon conducting regression, it was realized that these helicopters were in fact saucers that apparently had projected a screen image. The wife slept through the experience (query whether the actual landing of helicopters would have awaken someone from their sleep).

Obviously these unmarked helicopters are associated with the mutilation phenomena, causing some to logically claim the government is largely behind mutilations. However, explaining why the government would go through the trouble to steal cattle to test for prions, remains a challenge, especially when the U.S.D.A. could merely buy them for less expense or raise their own animals. Linda Howe, who seems to be routinely criticized on this Forum, has linked these unmarked helicopters with alien ships, also claiming that they are oftentimes screen images to hide alien involvement in the mutilation phenomenon. Note that mutilations often occur with other incidents of high strangeness (see Hunt for the Skinwalker), and have been associated with UFO flaps (see Don Eckers' recent interview with Phil Imbrogno where Imbrogno details numerous sheep mutes during the Hudson Valley flap).

I certainly don't have any answers as to what is occurring, but this linkage across phenomena (abductions, mutilations, UFO flaps, other strangeness) does raise questions. People who want to tell a story could be working these unmarked helicopters into their testimony (although farmers whose herds are victimized by the mutilators often stand guard with rifles all night, which doesn't sound like people looking to tell a tale). The government could be integrally involved (although again, why, and why the association with abductions in addition to mutes). Or there could be something to all of this, with deception occurring at yet another level (although it is always easy to use this "deception excuse" to explain away an unexplained fact, here the presence of helicopters where they logically would not be).

 

[brownie]

Given all the discussion on this Forum recently about abductions, I downloaded a copy of Budd Hopkins' Sight Unseen to read up on the topic.

Towards the end of the book Hopkins details the case of "Will", a farmer from rural Wisconsin who, along with his wife, undergoes a 1974 abduction experience which is initiated by several apparent unmarked helicopters landing down in his field, near to the place where his wife was taking a daytime nap. Will and his wife were described as simple but intelligent people who were fundamentally honest. Upon conducting regression, it was realized that these helicopters were in fact saucers that apparently had projected a screen image. The wife slept through the experience (query whether the actual landing of helicopters would have awaken someone from their sleep).

Obviously these unmarked helicopters are associated with the mutilation phenomena, causing some to logically claim the government is largely behind mutilations. However, explaining why the government would go through the trouble to steal cattle to test for prions, remains a challenge, especially when the U.S.D.A. could merely buy them for less expense or raise their own animals. Linda Howe, who seems to be routinely criticized on this Forum, has linked these unmarked helicopters with alien ships, also claiming that they are oftentimes screen images to hide alien involvement in the mutilation phenomenon. Note that mutilations often occur with other incidents of high strangeness (see Hunt for the Skinwalker), and have been associated with UFO flaps (see Don Eckers' recent interview with Phil Imbrogno where Imbrogno details numerous sheep mutes during the Hudson Valley flap).

I certainly don't have any answers as to what is occurring, but this linkage across phenomena (abductions, mutilations, UFO flaps, other strangeness) does raise questions. People who want to tell a story could be working these unmarked helicopters into their testimony (although farmers whose herds are victimized by the mutilators often stand guard with rifles all night, which doesn't sound like people looking to tell a tale). The government could be integrally involved (although again, why, and why the association with abductions in addition to mutes). Or there could be something to all of this, with deception occurring at yet another level (although it is always easy to use this "deception excuse" to explain away an unexplained fact, here the presence of helicopters where they logically would not be).

It's interesting and a mystery within the ufo field. Along with the people you've mentioned - John Keel noted the odd shaped planes that performed impossible (for our technology) manouvers and flew in snowstorms with their cockpits fully lit in UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse. Also Raymond Fowler and Whitley Streiber noted similar sightings.

 

[ojibray]

I have a theory that whatever is generating these experiences, be it aliens or whatever, sometimes try to disguise themselves. They will take the shape of innocuous things that the average person wouldn't look twice at so that they can go about their business undisturbed.

But, sometimes, they don't get it quite right. I don't know how many times I've seen what is most definitely a low flying plane, but there is absolutely no sound at all, even though at that altitude, it should be rattling windows. Or at night, you'll see the running lights of a plane flying overhead, and then realize that there is nothing but open space between the running lights.

And sometimes, they get it totally wrong, as in the helicopter that looks more like something from a 1950's sci-fi magazine than an actual helicopter.

 

[brownie]

I have a theory that whatever is generating these experiences, be it aliens or whatever, sometimes try to disguise themselves. They will take the shape of innocuous things that the average person wouldn't look twice at so that they can go about their business undisturbed.

But, sometimes, they don't get it quite right. I don't know how many times I've seen what is most definitely a low flying plane, but there is absolutely no sound at all, even though at that altitude, it should be rattling windows. Or at night, you'll see the running lights of a plane flying overhead, and then realize that there is nothing but open space between the running lights.

And sometimes, they get it totally wrong, as in the helicopter that looks more like something from a 1950's sci-fi magazine than an actual helicopter.

Hi ojibray, Good points! I also wonder if, in some instances, the Intelligence controlling these vehicles chooses to be seen. Kind of like 'hey, haha, here we are in a silly disguise and there's nothing you (humans) can do about it'. A disturbing intrusion into what our human minds have learned to be reality (particularly in our western civilization).