Horsecrap In The Desert

[Muadib]

So I was listening to the latest episode of the Paracast, which was great by the way, and I heard the ad for the Contact In The Desert UFO Conference. The first thing that jumped out at me was that mixed in with the usual names in the Ancient Alien and Exopolitical (barf) scene, was the "Obama Visits Mars" lady, AKA Laura Eisenhower. Now, whatever you might think of the guest list, one can at least take comfort in the fact that many of these names (at least the ones in the commercial) have been involved in their respective fields for many years, are fairly well known, and also have somewhat solid, if not occasionally exaggerated, accomplishments in mainstream society whether it be college degrees, military experience or whatever. However, at least to my knowledge, this particular whacko woman has no such thing going for her, here is her list of official titles from her website:

Laura is a Galactic Historian, Global Alchemist, Cosmic Mythologist, Ascension Guide and is the great-grandaughter of Dwight David Eisenhower

Galactic Historian? Who are you trying to kid? Ascension Guide? What the fuck does that even mean? I haven't perused the entire guest list so there may be others with such obviously made up and self conferred new age, hippy bullshit titles. The only title I think she deserves is the title of alchemist, because she seems to have discovered a formula whereby one can take a story made out of pure batshit and turn it into gold (money)

My point is this, is it any wonder that this field is so ridiculed? Can we really be all that surprised that the mainstream wants nothing to do with a field so obviously littered with extremely deluded individuals? When you put this obvious whackadoo on the same stage with, say, a Richard Dolan, is it any wonder that the credibility of the entire field suffers as a result? When are we going to realize that when you play in the mud, you get dirty, so to speak. Or perhaps more appropriately, when you play with shit, you start to stink. I don't know what inspired this little rant, I was actually surprised by how much this annoyed me, but why in the world is someone like this, with no legitimate credentials and no background in research or investigation, given the time of day by the folks that set up these conferences and why do the serious researchers in the field agree to share the stage with them? I have my theories but would like to hear some of yours.

 

[Wade]

Although its not a concept that is limited to ufology, this is a field where one really needs to keep a current scorecard on who's who lest you get painted with the same brush, probably because the field itself is already loaded with baggage.

It's probably fair to say that there are more ties that bind those in the field than beliefs that drive them apart, but still it's intetesting that many players have an aspect of them that are inconvenient to fellow researchers and hence the occasional caveats when taking about the virtues of other researchers in the field.

...steppin' off the soapbox.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

The more times goes by, the more I think there actually many 'plants' in Ufology. I would not be in the least bit surprised to find out that quite a few 'names' are actually paid-up official dis-info.

There are compelling reasons for expecting this to be the case. If we accept as fact that there are real 'ufos' around and governments do indeed wish to keep that a secret, then it makes total sense to have people in their pay out in the field of Ufology who are there to look like they are into UFOs but take it just that bit further so as to give reasons for the whole field to be ridiculed.

We all can think of a number of people who spout some serious batshit-crazy views, views that any sane person would not be touting publicly if they were truly interested in getting to the truth of all this. I'm gonna go ahead and name two people I am highly suspicious of.....Steven Greer and Steven Basset.

 

[starise]

I would agree with you Goggs. I remember a MUFON meeting I attended and one of the characters there was questionable. I have thought this for a long time. Some of these folks might be closer than you think. I only went to one meeting because it was close and I was curious. I am not saying that this would verify UFOs in whatever context you choose to view that. But I am pretty convinced we have plants as you call them.

As for the so called UFO field. I don't seriously look at it as a "field" . It doesn't have that much credibility. It's a bunch of folks looking at things they don't understand and trying to make sense of it. Some of the things they come up with are unusual to say the least. It's more like a circus and people are profiting from it. When you don't know much of anything about something you have a lot of freedom to expound,especially if the people you're talking to don't know either. The people without the answers are looking for the people that claim to have the answers and most of them don't.