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how about a return of Dave Paulides to DMR?

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I hope he comes back. As an aside, David was on C2C and the listener response was so overwhelming they had him on again. There are so many cases in even just one book and each case is as interesting as hell. I cannot remember if the show concentrated on west coast only (there being a book each for east and west USA).

Many theories have been put forward to explain these disappearances but maybe like the UFO enigma, there is more than one thing going on...

David mentioned how rescue and cadaver dogs seemed to be unwilling to follow a scent, behaviour which the handlers were at a loss to explain, considering that these dogs absolutely LIVE for following scents.
Anyway, the other day I watched the docu/movie 'The Legend of Boggy Creek' which is about bigfoot in Mississippi I think. In the movie it is shown that when hunting/tracking dogs got the scent of the bigfoot (or whatever), the dogs would lie down, totally unwilling to follow his scent.

David mentioned that dogs seemed unwilling to follow scents in some of these missing persons case. So I made the possible connection that there is something about a bigfoot scent that makes the dogs lie down, tails between their legs as if scared to follow the scent. I wonder if bigfoot could explain some of the missing persons cases. It could explain how very young kids managed to traverse miles horizontally and fair vertical climbs in times that would be virtually impossible for young kids to do. Kidnapped by a bigfoot is an explanation that could account for many of the puzzling aspects to these cases, though probably not all cases.

There is no doubt several distinct things going on in these disappearances. One case had a troop of green berets out searching - and not at the request of the rescuers? Who called them in and what was their remit? Were they searching for the missing person or searching for whatever might be behind the missing person cases? All very sinister and weird!

Anyway, the show with David and 'Missing 411' was excellent and I've no doubt a return show would be equally as great - there is no shortage of great material to discuss and I can imagine David could fill several shows with the information in his books.
 
I have been meaning to post this note for a number of days now but something always seems to interrupt me. A few days ago I tried to call Paulides at his home number that we did the show on. The number rang, someone picked up the phone and then immediately hung it up. That was odd so I waited about 30 seconds and called back. It rang about 6 times then once again someone picked it up and hung it up. I got the impression he didn't want to talk to anyone.

Decker
 
How strange. David was a fantastic guest. Perhaps he just has some personal issues etc but if that is the case, it's easy enough to leave an answermachine message saying it's not a good time?

Hopefully David will be back sometime. A fantastic researcher on this missing persons deal.
 
He's (Paulides) probably didn't answer because the truth about his "research" is becoming known. There are quite a few references to Missing 411 all over, especially over on Amazon regarding his methods and missing people. I am glad I came across it, as it saved me a few bucks. I could look past his techniques but he seems to have an issue with answering a question or two about his problems while a COP. Credibility issues and all.
 
Would you please be more specific? As a matter of fact I very recently heard from Paulides. What are you referring to? Thanks.

Decker
 
After hearing one of his shows, I thought I would purchase the book. After researching I found a few forums that discredited his objectiveness and mentioned him not being retired, rather quitting after 16 or so years. Not being one to believe everything I read on the Internet I found a review on Amazon that included links to document and asked some serious questions of Mr. Paulides raising doubts as to his credibility and his fact checking of his stories. They seem to be internet articles put together to make it seem these disappearances are all related.
 
William Debold said:
After hearing one of his shows, I thought I would purchase the book. After researching I found a few forums that discredited his objectiveness and mentioned him not being retired, rather quitting after 16 or so years. Not being one to believe everything I read on the Internet I found a review on Amazon that included links to document and asked some serious questions of Mr. Paulides raising doubts as to his credibility and his fact checking of his stories. They seem to be internet articles put together to make it seem these disappearances are all related.
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Thank you. I will follow up on this.

Decker
 
Forget the articles - is there any way to check if there really are so many people gone missing from the national parks? David said that the parks either kept no such records or were reluctant to give out the figures.

I suppose speculation on the weirdness of the cases is different than the actual fact/nofact that that amount of people went missing.

Are there supposed to be actual names of the missing in the book? That way, it should be possible to at least independently check on whether anyone of that name was known to have gone missing.

Don, ex-cop of good standing that you are - I can't think of a better person to maybe check out a name or too? What do you think?
 
I have been trying to decide if I can squeeze some time in to do exactly that. Last week I was injured in an in-home accident and really banged up some ribs and hip pretty bad. I have been taking it easy trying to get back into some kind of regular routine. Sleeping with these ribs have been pretty tough, and not since something that happened to me while in an Army school have I been this banged up. (Well, besides being shot of course ...LOL!)

Decker
 
goggsmackay said:
Forget the articles - is there any way to check if there really are so many people gone missing from the national parks? David said that the parks either kept no such records or were reluctant to give out the figures.

I suppose speculation on the weirdness of the cases is different than the actual fact/nofact that that amount of people went missing.

Are there supposed to be actual names of the missing in the book? That way, it should be possible to at least independently check on whether anyone of that name was known to have gone missing.

Don, ex-cop of good standing that you are - I can't think of a better person to maybe check out a name or too? What do you think?
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If records aren't truly kept it would provide a good "hole" to exploit as you couldn't easily prove one way or another as far verifying any details of people who just vanish.however given the manpower involved it the It would seem rather easy to verify any details on the cases where search teams were involved.

The thing is I've heard...perhaps an exaggeration... that the national parks are so popular many require back country permits and or advance reservations for campsites so there would seem to be a system in place for some kind of auditing. If they keep records on who checks in and there is fees involved seems to me they would want to know who checks out.
 
A speedy recover Decker......

I don’t know about lists.

The reviewer made a case for misrepresenting data that would change the readers view on what happened to these people.

Hypothermia was completely dismissed, and the show I heard in March he did dismiss this. People do strange things when they are cold and disoriented. This seems to be disingenuous on Mr. Paulides part.

A fellow in Tennessee was found alive at one distance and according to the book he was found at another, with a 4 mile difference.

No interviews of people that survived for their perspective on what happened to them.

No footnotes or copies of FOIA request letters or FOIA refusal letters.

Two boys were included that were believed to be the victims of a child molester.

A whole family disappeared and according to the reviewer, the book misrepresented what the Police department found and investigated and reported on a documentary science show.

I will say this, if the reviewers claim about his Police background is accurate (he did include a newspaper article with links) then there is something below the surface and where there is smoke there is fire.

I don’t have the book and 99.00 is a bit pricey for me, so I can’t make a decision one way or the other. The review was fascinating and rather lengthy. The replies were also interesting. Mr. Paulides was asked to clarify some of these issues and he outright attacked the reviewer and another who refuted his data.
 
Decker said:
I have been trying to decide if I can squeeze some time in to do exactly that. Last week I was injured in an in-home accident and really banged up some ribs and hip pretty bad. I have been taking it easy trying to get back into some kind of regular routine. Sleeping with these ribs have been pretty tough, and not since something that happened to me while in an Army school have I been this banged up. (Well, besides being shot of course ...LOL!)

Decker
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What exactly did you say to Vikki? :rolleyes:
 
I forget what he thought about the piles of clothing and weapons found away from bodies descriptions he came across and how he reacted to that evidence but all I know is that this is common to hypothermia cases especially if people get wet plus they hallucinate.
 
I answered Ryan's question on FB but I recently had contact with Paulides and he said he would be interested in coming back on DMR nearer end of Dec. or early January. This all providing, of course, that we don't fall into the Sun on Dec. 21st. ......

Decker
 
And on that score Don, perhaps an 'end of the world' show is in order? Or more fittingly, an 'end to crap claims about 12/21/2012 (had to think there and put the date the US way).
 
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