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There is more mental nutrition here than I can digest, but it still fascinates. I would like to pose a couple of loose questions in hopes of gleaning viewpoints and better understanding.

Student raises his hand from back of classroom. He has read but dismally failed to comprehend Roger Penrose's "The Emperor's New Mind". He hopes his questions have not already been answered and he has simply missed them :

-Can the emergent process of human consciousness be deconstructed as no more than a kind of awareness producing algorithm following an essentially hierarchical set of (self-modifying or externally modified) codes? Does the 'algorithm only' view violate the notion (often attributed to Kurt Godel and the math is gibberish to said student) that any algorithm can generate true statements that can only be proved within the concept of a larger algorithm, ad infinitum?

-If consciousness is indeed no more than an algorithm occurring in the macro vs quantum world, does that mean it is indeed substrate independent ? Can it be mapped in silicon as well as carbon based systems?

Are the above questions evidence the student has entered a psychologically dissociative state and should have signed up for "Turfgrass Management 101" instead?

<blockquote data-quote="boomerang" data-source="post: 168309" data-attributes="member: 3872">There is more mental nutrition here than I can digest, but it still fascinates.&nbsp; I would like to pose a couple of loose questions in hopes of gleaning viewpoints and better understanding.Student raises his hand from&nbsp; back of&nbsp; classroom. He has read but dismally failed to comprehend Roger Penrose&#039;s &quot;The Emperor&#039;s New Mind&quot;. He hopes his questions have not already been answered and he has simply missed them&nbsp; :-Can the emergent process of human consciousness be deconstructed as no more than a kind of&nbsp; awareness producing algorithm following an essentially hierarchical set of (self-modifying or externally modified) codes?&nbsp; Does the &#039;algorithm only&#039;&nbsp; view violate the notion (often attributed to Kurt Godel and the math is gibberish to said student)&nbsp; that any algorithm can generate true statements that can only be proved within the concept of a larger algorithm, ad infinitum? -If consciousness is indeed no more than an algorithm occurring in the macro vs quantum world, does that mean it is indeed substrate independent ?&nbsp; Can it be mapped in silicon as well as carbon based systems?Are the above questions evidence the student has entered a&nbsp; psychologically&nbsp; dissociative state and should have signed up for &quot;Turfgrass Management 101&quot; instead? <img src="/forum/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/confused.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:" data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="boomerang, post: 168309, member: 3872"] There is more mental nutrition here than I can digest, but it still fascinates. I would like to pose a couple of loose questions in hopes of gleaning viewpoints and better understanding. [I]Student raises his hand from back of classroom. He has read but dismally failed to comprehend Roger Penrose's "The Emperor's New Mind". He hopes his questions have not already been answered and he has simply missed them :[/I] -Can the emergent process of human consciousness be deconstructed as no more than a kind of awareness producing algorithm following an essentially hierarchical set of (self-modifying or externally modified) codes? Does the 'algorithm only' view violate the notion (often attributed to Kurt Godel and the math is gibberish to said student) that any algorithm can generate true statements that can only be proved within the concept of a larger algorithm,[I] ad infinitum[/I]? -If consciousness is indeed no more than an algorithm occurring in the macro vs quantum world, does that mean it is indeed substrate independent ? Can it be mapped in silicon as well as carbon based systems? Are the above questions evidence the student has entered a psychologically dissociative state and should have signed up for "Turfgrass Management 101" instead? :confused: [/QUOTE]

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