How Not To Get Arrested: Tips

[Tyger]

An Ex-Cop's Guide to Not Getting Arrested
LINK: An Ex-Cop's Guide to Not Getting Arrested - Mike Riggs - The Atlantic Cities

Totally serious but some unintentionally funny stuff in here.

My favorite: "He also says you should be dignified—unless it looks like you're about to lose both the psychological contest and the one for custody of your body. In which case, you should be strategically pitiful."

I'm sharing this here on the theory that we all here

could use to arrest-proof ourselves.

 

[Charlie Prime]

I read this guy's book about a year ago. He's a douchebag, but what he says is true. You are less likely to be arrested if you over-comply with every imaginable law and rarely leave your house.

The interesting part is what he calls "The Farm". Once a law-abiding person gets jacked for some slight violation, they are brought into The Farm vicious cycle and harvested for money for years to come.

He tells the story of the nice bank assistant manager whose sister-in-law stole her checkbook and wrote a hot check. Due to the vast computer network "the justice system" shares with businesses, the lady lost her middle-class job and could only qualify for minimum wage for the rest of her life.

She wound up paying half her income in monthly fees to support court clerks, judges, probation officers, bondsmen, and the whole system of parasitic thugs for the rest of her miserable life.

 

[boomerang]

More evidence of society in decline. You wouldn't try telling a law abiding member of the so-called greatest generation to stay invisible just to avoid unfair arrest. Trust me on this one.

 

[Charlie Prime]

I don't blame young kids for being slaves. That would be like laughing at a dog who got run over by a car for not being able to walk.

Building the global police state has been a very long-term project.

 

[Randall]

I don't blame young kids for being slaves. That would be like laughing at a dog who got run over by a car for not being able to walk.
Building the global police state has been a very long-term project.

The police state mentality is one of those things that needs to be monitored and prevented because it seems to be one of the root causes of war that we were talking about with respect to Remembrance Day recently. And naturally there will be those who probably think we're also bashing the cops now too, but the fact is, over here, the civilian police are basically city workers. They only get paid marginally better than garbage men and truck drivers. In fact they're basically just garbage men with a uniform, guns, and a badge and they take out a different kind of garbage. They're just human like the rest of us, and subject to all the same kinds of corruption and abuse that the rest of us are. Good cops are valuable, as are good judges, and good lawyers, even good politicians. And then you get clowns like the Mayor of Canada's flagship city of Toronto . The best part so far is that he used a crack house as his campaign headquarters!

 

[Burnt State]

Policing is much more complex circa 2013. Technology and education play very big roles as do the rest of the community, as crime prevention gets embedded into things like urban design. Cops get paid very well by the way and start at a very decent pay grade. It would surprise me greatly to find that they make the same as garbage collectors. It's not that way in Mississauga - Canada's sixth biggest city. They certainy don't take out garbage. They are community resources, assistants, and sometimes able to use lethal force to restore order or protect people. I used to subscribe to an anti-police, anarchist notion of how to promote law and order until I started working within the system. Pragmatic approaches to running things called civilization include having well educated police who use words as their best tool.

I don't deny that in any profession some people are not effective in their position, abuse their power or make really terrible mistakes. At the same time it's one profession I don't have the courage to take on such tasks, and after working with the police on youth issues for many years now I've come to see them as exceptional individuals who play critical roles in society. Anyone who goes to work each day that includes a much higher risk of personal injury or even death is impressive in my books and rank considerably higher over garbage collectors. I find it a very strange comparison. Their stresses and decision making processes come with incredible responsibility as well.

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

I have a problem w/ the whole militarization of law enforcement. Hell, they used to be Marshals and Justices of the Peace—now their SEAL-esque SWAT teams w/ armored vehicles, automatic weapons and pumped up dudes on steroids w/ bad attitudes!

 

[tom1961]

Our city just got an Military type vehicle for the police.

 

[smcder]

Policing is much more complex circa 2013. Technology and education play very big roles as do the rest of the community, as crime prevention gets embedded into things like urban design. Cops get paid very well by the way and start at a very decent pay grade. It would surprise me greatly to find that they make the same as garbage collectors. It's not that way in Mississauga - Canada's sixth biggest city. They certainy don't take out garbage. They are community resources, assistants, and sometimes able to use lethal force to restore order or protect people. I used to subscribe to an anti-police, anarchist notion of how to promote law and order until I started working within the system. Pragmatic approaches to running things called civilization include having well educated police who use words as their best tool.

I don't deny that in any profession some people are not effective in their position, abuse their power or make really terrible mistakes. At the same time it's one profession I don't have the courage to take on such tasks, and after working with the police on youth issues for many years now I've come to see them as exceptional individuals who play critical roles in society. Anyone who goes to work each day that includes a much higher risk of personal injury or even death is impressive in my books and rank considerably higher over garbage collectors. I find it a very strange comparison. Their stresses and decision making processes come with incredible responsibility as well.

This is one case where I think both points of view may be dead-on . . . I'll buy that both situations are out there, at least I know I had a lot of contact with law enforcement state-wide around mental health issues in my last job and saw both sides described on this thread - (and yes, the pay is comparable to garbage collectors, on average - but both make considerably more than minimum wage here) I do think there is a real concern around militarization and I've heard that expressed by older LEOs as well as former members of the military and civilians in between, but there are also the aspects you describe, top-notch people who risk their lives on a daily basis. And yes, there are also the steroid-ed up paramilitary type dudes out here who will scream at you for making a wrong turn.

 

[Burnt State]

According to the Motherboard police militarization can be blamed on the initial misguided war on drugs:
How Cops Became Soldiers: An Interview with Police Militarization Expert Radley Balko | Motherboard
But in the US you also have the long history of retired military weaponry and machinery being forced onto law enforcement with a lot of negative consequences following: Column: The militarization of U.S. police forces - Yahoo News But it seems that no good Internation G#Summit can do without mass protest, increases citizen surveillance, water cannons, sound cannons, riot squads and young folk getting pepper sprayed and beat up. I'm not sure why protests can't be fun, civil and musical but it seems that violent tango is just inevitable.

 

[boomerang]

According to the Motherboard police militarization can be blamed on the initial misguided war on drugs:

Oh, don't get me started on this one. We have become a culture that wages war on everything but ignorance. Don't look for cannabis to be legalized at the Federal level in the near future because it is medically safe. Don't expect an effective ban on cocaine because it goes up too many noses to which prominent and powerful people are attached.