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Trystero, I've already addressed this. I told you they are trying to come up with all manner of excuses to explain why temperature rises first. They are trying to attack mostly on two levels, saying that air bubbles in ice cores are fooling scientists into thinking that temperatures rose first as well as trying to say that "something else" warmed the planet after the last ice age but that this "something else" isn't at play now in warming the earth. It must have run a way or was kidnapped or something. One theory they've used is that a small increase in CO2 led to a temperature rise and then this led to outgassing of CO2 from the ocean which led to further warming. The problem with this is that the initial CO2 rise would have been recorded in the ice core and it's not there.

If you haven't figured it out yet, pro-AGW people have no unambiguous proof of anything. At best their evidence is ambiguous. At worst it's non-existent or is the opposite of what they claim.

<blockquote data-quote="BoyintheMachine" data-source="post: 194121" data-attributes="member: 2264">Trystero, I&#039;ve already addressed this. I told you they are trying to come up with all manner of excuses to explain why temperature rises first. They are trying to attack mostly on two levels, saying that air bubbles in ice cores are fooling scientists into thinking that temperatures rose first as well as trying to say that &quot;something else&quot; warmed the planet after the last ice age but that this &quot;something else&quot; isn&#039;t at play now in warming the earth. It must have run a way or was kidnapped or something. One theory they&#039;ve used is that a small increase in CO2 led to a temperature rise and then this led to outgassing of CO2 from the ocean which led to further warming. The problem with this is that the initial CO2 rise would have been recorded in the ice core and it&#039;s not there.If you haven&#039;t figured it out yet, pro-AGW people have no unambiguous proof of anything. At best their evidence is ambiguous. At worst it&#039;s non-existent or is the opposite of what they claim.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BoyintheMachine, post: 194121, member: 2264"] Trystero, I've already addressed this. I told you they are trying to come up with all manner of excuses to explain why temperature rises first. They are trying to attack mostly on two levels, saying that air bubbles in ice cores are fooling scientists into thinking that temperatures rose first as well as trying to say that "something else" warmed the planet after the last ice age but that this "something else" isn't at play now in warming the earth. It must have run a way or was kidnapped or something. One theory they've used is that a small increase in CO2 led to a temperature rise and then this led to outgassing of CO2 from the ocean which led to further warming. The problem with this is that the initial CO2 rise would have been recorded in the ice core and it's not there. If you haven't figured it out yet, pro-AGW people have no unambiguous proof of anything. At best their evidence is ambiguous. At worst it's non-existent or is the opposite of what they claim. [/QUOTE]

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