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pupilstutor

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Col. Halt interviewed by Rayl re the Rendlesham Forest Incident:

Halt:” I wish I hadn’t gotton involved in this. Nobody’s going to believe me.”

Halt on Burroughs and Penniston:” They were quite concerned...I think they were quite worried. I know they were concerned about losing their security clearance or their jobs.”

Rayl:” Now, why would they be worried about that?”

Halt: “ Because they weren’t sure anyone anybody would believe them

Rayl: :So, UFOs are not exactly a subject for open conversation?”

Halt: “No....”

Reporting a UFO incident could result in losing your job and ending your career.You’d be harassed until you changed your story. You’d be awaken at 3 AM for interrogation. You’d be branded a liar and never have a career.

Your options: If you see something “unworldly” you never speak of it...never go on record...never open your mouth. If your forced to speak, fudge it...filter it...make it sound vague...just say you saw lights, no more.

It’s probable that beams of light landed in the WSA and some guards did not report it. Those that did were later debriefed and forced to recant their stories. It was the night after that the SP log, plans and Blotter went missing. There were too many names and so little space. NSA agents debriefed and put a lock on the situation by threatening, intimidating and in some cases,drugging the cooperative and the uncooperative and transferred many of those involved back to the States within weeks of the UFO landing.

Those having a close encounter with a UFOs have their security rating upgraded. Once upgraded, it’s a courtmarshall offense to discuss them. If a UFO is encountered, no base alert is sounded. There is a silent and selective distribution of resources to address it. No weapons allowed. It’s almost like there is an unwritten protocol that must be adhered to.
 
No!

The president of the US has NO say in the matter. When Eisenhauer was president he had some input. It was taken out of his hands. Afterwards he gave a speech warning about the military/industrial complex.
 
pupilstutor said:
No!

The president of the US has NO say in the matter. When Eisenhauer was president he had some input. It was taken out of his hands. Afterwards he gave a speech warning about the military/industrial complex.
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whoever sits on the gold, or 'prospective technology' is the unofficial king of secrecy?
 
Its not clear from your post pupilstutor whether its all Halt speaking or if some of it is coming from you.. (?)

If it is form you, do you have experience in this area?
 
The quotes came from an interview with Halt. The rest comes from me.

From the very beginning the UFO events at Rendlesham forest were being censored.The participants, themselves, entered into self-censorship. To this day,John Burroughs who was involved the first night with the triangular craft, must report to the USAF on the limits of what he can say and cannot say. Left at East Gate tells what Warren endured. I've read excerpts from a chapter of a Robert Hastings book dealing with RFI. He confirms most of what I've learned.
 
Pupilstutor,
What do you think is the bottom line for the UFO cover-up? If it is for National Security reasons do you agree with Biedny and Ecker's speculations about what would happen if the public knew. They discussed this on the May 24th show.
 
Ally
I did not hear the May 24th show.
I think its about 'protecting' Capitalism, Religion and the Institutions of the State from chaos and collapse.
 
I can't be the only one that thinks protecting the status quo no matter what vs looking for the truth is morally incomprehensible. If I am being naive please educate me.
 
Philosophy, which you are relying on, necessitates a grounding. By putting your head into the ground like an ostrich, you move into illusion amd fantasy , no longer connected to the real world. You are indifferent to what's going on.

An alien visitation would be an ungrounding both of that which liberates and that which enchains. that which lives and that which dies. It, the unmasking, will be the ultimate theater, which could encompass, select, and destroy everything. The intensity of this theater would crush your world whether you'd live in it or not.

It's time we open the vault of UFO phenomenon. We need to know what we're up against.
 
pupilstutor said:
It's time we open the vault of UFO phenomenon. We need to know what we're up against.
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I once felt that complete openness and full disclosure, get all the cards out on the table etc., was necessary. Now, I'm not so sure that's feasible.

What are we going to do about the alleged abductions and mistreatment of civilians and military personnel? If any part of that is real then we're dealing with something that isn't entirely benevolent, and yet seemingly hasn't taken over society - mind you, some might argue that the downfall of mankind is already underway.

I'll tell you what, though, I am intrigued by the similarities between abductions and Shamanic Initiations; the death/rebirth sequence is strikingly similar to operations undergone by abductees.

If by revealing the UFO mystery humanity discovers that the perpetrators of said abductions are beings that have existed alongside us from the beginning, or that their whereabouts span even farther back, than we may very well be at their mercy.

I don't want to believe so, but it may not be in our hands at all.

I don't think most people could accept that kind of information.
 
My understanding is we do not really KNOW what this phenomenon is entirely.
When civilians or Military people encounter this phenomenon and their lives are ruined by the MIB's or whoever this is wrong IMO.

Pupilstutor,
I don't disagree with your last post entirely. I realize my life has had limited exposure in many areas. My work career was cut short because of serious health problems and my age limits my understanding of what WW11 was like.

Paranormal Dada,
The alien abduction encounter and the shamanic experience do seem to have a lot in common. Have you ever read John Mack's book Passport To The Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounter? A very good book written by a very evolved person.
 
Pupilstutor,
I will take your last post and really think about it. I did ask. What are we all doing here on these forums if not trying to find some kind of common truth only to have TPTB mess with some people.

How do we go about getting the UFO vaults open if there is such a resistance from whatever group that decides to cover this up? As far as me living in a fantasy world that maybe true to a degree. For someone that is that far removed from "reality" I sure have had a lot of expereinces that have been confirmed by credible people that I get messed with by a human group for whatever reason.
 
Ally said:
My understanding is we do not really KNOW what this phenomenon is entirely.
When civilians or Military people encounter this phenomenon and their lives are ruined by the MIB's or whoever this is wrong IMO.
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Exactly, the individual is left without the aid of a debriefing or adequate decompression. Memories are fragmented to the point that it all seems like some warped fantasy. Something is going on, Ally; but the truth is blurred. Whether that's done by the experiencer's unconscious, acting precisely as a safe-guard for trauma, or on the phenomena/human controller side of the coin - remains a mystery.

Ally said:
Paranormal Dada, The alien abduction encounter and the shamanic experience do seem to have a lot in common. Have you ever read John Mack's book Passport To The Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounter? A very good book written by a very evolved person.
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A good book, I agree... Mack was starting to get somewhere, perhaps someone will carry on in his absence.

The sightings, encounters etc. certainly make me feel that we're being asked to pay attention, otherwise, what's the point in showing off.
 
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