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is our space program worth the investment?

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Bob Watson

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I went to town hall meeting featuring Paul Ryan.
I asked
Was the 2.5 billion spent on the mars rover worth the investment?
His answer:
NO! That money could be better spent on earth!

So here is my question to you guys
Is it worth the money?
My answer is if we find evidence of life on mars....YES is worth every penny!
 
I think it very worth it. There are a few yacht's in the world worth around that amount. That is a waste of money. Constantly going to war, that is a waste of money and life.

Watch 'Dispatches' about the war in Iraq - then you see what a waste is. Challenging man to use the finest science and engineering to learn about possible life on the nearest planet and furthering our skills for one day venturing out from this planet - that is the opposite to a waste of money. The space program is one of the best things about man and long may it continue.
 
The answer is staring you in the face every time you use current technology. Our space program did more to advance our level of technology than any program before or since. In the scheme of government spending 2.5 billion is a drop in the bucket. Consider the fact that we're spending something like 642$ billion dollars this year to stop people with box cutters and bombs in their underwear. How about we take 10 billion of that and try to get human beings to Mars instead of spending it on defense? I'm 100% for the rover but considering the vast jump in technology that came out of the Mercury and Apollo space programs, I can only imagine where an actual manned mission to Mars would take us technologically. One of these days we'll get our priorities straight.
 
The US & International Space Program has benefits in medical developments in experiments and electronic researching improvements which goes into defense systems etc . Mind you if their was a choice in spending the Billions it would be on charity groups who support and medical treatment for Veterans and their families , Civilians from horrid effects of Orange, PTSD etc. Furthermore, (dream world) clean the mess up on Earth first then explore space as one World rather than select nations.
 
Of course Ryan doesn't want us exploring space. His party is one that, in their own words, is extremely anti-science. He'd rather give tax cuts to billionaires and start a program that forces the majority of seniors into abject poverty than advance knowledge and science. This is the same party that has said "critical thinking is bad", thinks evolution is a myth, is trying to define pregnancy (and therefore, "life") beginning at up to two weeks before conception and is largely convinced our ancestors rode domesticated dinosaurs. The GOP in Missouri is now trying to pass a "Right to Pray" Amendment that would allow students to avoid any assignment that interferes with his religious beliefs.

In many ways, our space program is a cure for this intellectual retardation that is being inflicted upon us. This is a program that has inspired entire generations of kids to take an active interest in science. It is what has inspired countless students to enthusiastically participate in science fairs, visit libraries and go to museums. Those of us who were awe-inspired by the space program as little kids became the ones looking through telescopes when our classmates were vegging in front of TVs. Speaking from personal experience, this didn't just open up space-related sciences to us but made all science available to us and sparked our interest in a wider-range of studies. I'd say we were also overwhelmingly the ones who completed projects on time if not ahead of time and were generally the best students in school.

As another poster stated, the space program has also boosted our technology. I also have a vested interest in seeing improvements to health technology but I completely understand how our space technology has improved medical science. I also understand how this technology has helped many societal ills as a whole, including in ways that help the environment. I'm almost a rabid environmentalist and for this reason, I want us to continue spending money on the programs and technology being thought out by NASA.

Realistically, what we spend on the space program is just a piddly drop in the bucket compared to our overall spending. It's also, overwhelmingly, something that consistently gives us the most useful and practical results, being applied in far more ways than just space exploration. I'd like to see us cut military spending, especially on never-ending wars and finding new enemies to warrant more wars and more military spending and use that funding toward everything from the space program to public education, improving healthcare, personal health and finding more ways to improve the environment and environmental sustainability.
 
what happened to this in goverment? what happened that our leaders Stopped caring? I have visited Bob's place of work I seen our son look in the telescopes with awe and wonder I seen the same look on Bob's face as well. and at 63years of age on the face of Bobs professor. We have a vast vault of knowage waiting. And we have closed the door on it.

 
It is no secret that over the years I have had my differences concerning NASA. But! ... it has hurt me to see their budget slashed beneath the bone. This nation NEEDS a space program, we need something to set our eyes and hearts on that is more that feeding dollars into a war machine or some of the other things that we spend billions on. Can we say Solyndra? A half a billion dollars down a rat hole. What could NASA do with that?

Decker
 
It is no secret that over the years I have had my differences concerning NASA. But! ... it has hurt me to see their budget slashed beneath the bone. This nation NEEDS a space program, we need something to set our eyes and hearts on that is more that feeding dollars into a war machine or some of the other things that we spend billions on. Can we say Solyndra? A half a billion dollars down a rat hole. What could NASA do with that?

Decker

A new Launch Vehicle for maned flight springs to mind
 
I'm a sci-fi fan and love everything space, but if I were King of the world, I'd prioritize other problems on Earth first, and until that was figured out, I wouldn't get into launching a lot up into space. Instead I'd assign space program resources to intense R & D to figure out fusion power and how UFO propulsion works. Once we've got antigravity drives and fusion power, the whole game changes and the ultimate benefit to the world would be akin to the offshoots of the first space race. We'd finally be on our way instead of sputtering around in machines that are still operating on the principles of combustion ... a technology that dates back to the discovery of fire.
 
I'm a sci-fi fan and love everything space, but if I were King of the world, I'd prioritize other problems on Earth first, and until that was figured out, I wouldn't get into launching a lot up into space. Instead I'd assign space program resources to intense R & D to figure out fusion power and how UFO propulsion works. Once we've got antigravity drives and fusion power, the whole game changes and the ultimate benefit to the world would be akin to the offshoots of the first space race. We'd finally be on our way instead of sputtering around in machines that are still operating on the principles of combustion ... a technology that dates back to the discovery of fire.

Hmmm...King of the World. That's an interesting line of thought.
I'd be more of a tyrant with a world wide police force to enforce my decrees. (I haven't figured out how to get around the whole"Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" problem)
But I would...
1. Enforce equality between genders and races. Everyone would have the same rights.
2. Enforce Religious tolerance as long as a particular religion respects peoples gender, body, and right to disagree. See rule #1.
3. Everyone and every corporation, business, etc would pay a flat 15% tax rate. Everyone/Entity, no exceptions. That would include religious institutions.
4. Education and healthcare would be FREE to everyone. Education up through an Associates Degree in college would be compulsory, with a HEAVY EMPHASIS on critical thinking skills, questioning everything, and science.
5. Space Exploration, Alternative energy development, and anything else that would get humans to the stars and colonizing space would be of TOP PRIORITY.

6. And of course, George Lucas would be FORCED to re-do the last of the Star Wars movies and leave out all the silly non Star Wars crap that was in "The Phantom Menace", etc, and make them REAL Star Wars movies.(Death to JarJar Binks). And ...And.... restore episode 4 to it's original level of special effects and not those cheesey remakes!!!!

Hey! I'm the tyrant King right? It's nice to dream I guess.
 
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