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Is There a Disclosure Slowly Happening?

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Lavarat

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Although over many years this has been something people speculate about and its hard to think it could happen.

Has anyone noticed that slowly, different key locations i.e. Vatican, UK, France, Canada, and the increase of sightings resulting in a small pickup on mainstream news at a small level is something a bit interesting?

Do you notice an increase of worldwide discussion on this topic?
 
It's funny, I seem to have some similar feelings about this - is it that there's more activity, or is it the fact that I'm immersed in this stuff now, so I'm more likely to notice it? Is interest in UFOs a cyclical thing? There does indeed seem to be more UFO activity around the world recently, and a lot more media coverage. I'm not sure what it means, if anything. Lavarat, thanks for bringing this up!

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I disagree. Any time new UFO news arrives, we hear the same thing. We're always already on the brink of disclosure. They said it in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and they're still saying it today. What makes you think that something is brewing, anyway? You mentioned news coverage. The news is covering UFO news occasionally because it bumps their ratings, not because they're taking orders from some secret cabal bent on slowly disclosing information. The Vatican news is fascinating but in no way indicates impending disclosure. The only thing one can infer from the Vatican news is that their astronomer personally thinks that aliens could be real.
 
My feeling is that, if there is any disclosure involved, it is a very gradual process that will extend over a number of years. You will hear more and more stories about live on other planets and our acceptance of the possibility, and they might increase in significance. One day you'll awake, and it's all in the open.

But, unlike some of the disclosure advocates, I don't think we'd necessarily see a Presidential press conference or a UN announcement, unless there was a major event that couldn't be covered up.
 
What makes anyone think there are more sightings?? I don't know that this is the case. We see news articles about sightings with bogus cell phone photos and of birds in flight and so on, but I don't know that there are actaully more credible sightings.

What is interesting to me is the modern melting or fusing of UFO's in our society, particularly towards the youth. I think this is what Dolan was talking about and I see it all the time because I have small children. They both know what an alien is. The notion of aliens is pervasive through many cartoons and other shows. Wubzy, Boohbah (Dolan was referring to), Power Rangers, Spongebob, even Scooby Doo. It's apparent all over TV and the internet and is exposed consistently to kids. This may just be a melting of continued pop culture or the steps towards softening the youth for a future truth. Of course I don't think there is any mandate towards this trend, but the trend does exist.

Other than that I don't see more UFO sightings. Perhaps its quantified somewhere, in which case it would be difficult to substantiate the number of true sightings(like we can tell). What I do see however, is the opening up about the topic in releases of government documents. If the US was to follow, it would open some floodgates as the admission of knowing and tracking of UFO's would permeate and change our society. For the better?? It may continue to raise the level of distrust we already have with them.

Perhaps the "softening" isn't due to UFO's per se, but rather the inevitability of us FINDING life somewhere. Perhaps we already have. And to move into a new paradigm, we need to soften our harsh views of the possibility of life elsewhere. In fact I think this is how it will happen. UFO's won't beat us to the punch, we have to go and find life. And that requires a readiness that we aren't akin to, but perhaps our youth will welcome.
 
In regards to the Vatican, Monsignor Corrado Balducci has been something of a regular in UFO circles for some time now so I would view a statement of theological position by the Vatican's astronomer as an ever-so-slight re-affirmation of the Vatican's interest in the subject rather than some disclosure early warning signal. There could also be a back-story behind such a statement such as it being intended as a signal to Latin America after a ufo flap that the church acknowledges the issue and is still relevant in the ufo/alien context.

I would guess the Vatican's overall understanding of the issue would resemble or perhaps slightly surpass what some of the more serious public researchers know. I can see them getting private meetings w/ high officials from the predominately Catholic countries now and then and considering the scope of their power in the past you have to wonder if they have any strange artifacts from the pre-modern ufo era in their archives.

Being a bit cynical at the moment, I am running w/ the idea that in the current era of nosediving relevance and profits of traditional media they are carefully looking for anything and everything that sells. It may be a distant second to porn but UFO material was hot stuff even back in the pre-Internet BBS days of networked computers and has remained a staple of the Internet ever since. It seems to serve traditional media as reliable public interest filler.

I would take the idea of imminent disclosure more seriously if I saw a corresponding increase in the seriousness and depth of analysis being presented in traditional media coverage of the subject.
 
Is There a Disclosure Slowly Happening?

No, I don't think so - I think there's less interest now, than there was 10 years ago.

I know for sure that my interest has hit rock bottom...
 
I don't think anything will happen in our lifetimes. I mean, who's to say it won't be hundreds of years? I can't say that. Though, of course I wish it would be disclosed today.

I can empathise with people who "feel" it's going to "happen soon" because I know the psychology that's happening: They want disclosure, very badly, and so will seek out any information that could possibly be interpreted as pre-disclosure. The term for this is "confirmation bias". You only take the information that confirms your bias. That's why we get in these "disclosure is coming" tizzies. It feels good.
 
I don't see it. I think those that do, many at least, are just being wishful.

In the past few years, the media in the US seem to be taking the subject more seriously and have matured. That's the only change I've seen.

I think there are those in the gov. that want disclosure, and those that don't want it. That's how it's been, and will be is my guess. It will take a crash in broad daylight at the Superbowl with aliens running around on the field on fire yelling hotginipgonab with 30 cameras on them for disclosure to happen. I hope I'm wrong and just jaded btw, but that certainly seems to be the case.

Hmm. Superbowl happen at night only? I'm not a sports fan. If so, then scratch that. We need broad day light. Debunkers do at least.
 
Great to see so many sensible posts. I certainly don't have the sense that there's more "activity" or that disclosure is on the cards any time soon (then again, I'm not someone who believes anyone has anything particularly spectacular to disclose anyway).
 
Rick Deckard said:
Is There a Disclosure Slowly Happening?

No, I don't think so - I think there's less interest now, than there was 10 years ago.

I know for sure that my interest has hit rock bottom...
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Rick,
Have you come to any personal conclusions about the topic for your interest to hit rock bottom?

BTW I like reading your posts and opinions. I think you add alot to this forum.
 
With me, it's the things happening recently that are out of the norm. Stephenville for instance. Wide coverage wherein some news guy says he believes in them while the twit sitting beside him, his co-anchor, plays the jokester. Nothing new about the latter, but the former, the guy who states he believes there's something to them ... that isn't the norm.

Nationwide coverage isn't normal either. If the lid's been kept on the box due to news media keeping silent all these years, why bother covering the recent stories such as O'Hare and Stephenville? Those could have been ignored, as so much in the past has been ignored, but they weren't. It isn't as though everyone who isn't internet savvy actually expected to see UFO stories on their nightly news. I'll bet a lot of those people said, "HUH?" Can't claim there would be a sensational calling card that Larry King took advantage of for instance.

Why the hell does the Vatican even care to say it's okay to think there are ufos? That's positively ludicrous unless there is something going on. The Vatican does nothing if it doesn't profit in some manner. Maybe they're just trying to explain the cost of that incredible observatory? I doubt it. They've never apologized for the riches they plundered nor how they continue to garner more wealth from the faithful. While we're at it, why do they have an observatory in the first place? I've never heard a sufficient answer.

Mostly it's the little things surrounding recent events that seem to be part of a sustained disclosure. I think it's possible there is a sustained effort, agreed upon by some and disturbing to others. But I'm not so sure I can trust that we'll get the real skinny on it. I don't think anyone in the know really has it all. Whatever may eventually come out won't be the whole story.

Wonder what Terry Hansen thinks of recent media events surrounding Stephenville and O'Hare. His book, The Missing Times is a great expose on media coverup. He might make a good guest, in fact.

http://www.themissingtimes.com/
 
Larry King did a half-show on the release of the UK files tonight. Fairly mundane but at least no freakin' McGaha!
 
Ten years ago, there was the Roswell anniversary, Independence Day movie, turn of the century hoopla, and the X-Files show. What ever is on tv influence people's interests. Today more people care about some cheesy pop tart on American Idol. So much so, I pray to be abducted by aliens and never brought back.
 
Sure, most of the programming concerning ufos is viewer oriented. That's existed for a long time. But I'm not talking about that stuff.

Newsmen (if you can really call them that anymore) say what they are allowed to say by their station managers and higherups. Rules have really changed in the newsroom as all is filtered. So the sensational is now okay?

There are two possibilities I can think of immediately that at least seem worthwhile. One, there is an unofficial disclosure being forced on the public for reasons we cannot be sure, or two, PTB within the news industry are just whoring around like Star Magazine. Either is certainly possible, if not probable. Oh well, the latter is certainly probable.
 
it is a media hype thing to attract you to the TV. thats all.

turn the frikkin TV off and wake up.
 
Ally said:
Rick,
Have you come to any personal conclusions about the topic for your interest to hit rock bottom?
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Yes, it's simply this - unless you've personally experienced these phenomena (and I haven't), then ALL of this information boils down to anecdotal evidence. In the end, you have to make a judgement about the people who are relating their experiences and whether you believe them or not.

Even if the witnesses are sincere, that still doesn't get us any nearer to an explanation for the phenomena - UFOs may be something entirely related to natural phenomena rather than intelligently piloted craft from 'elsewhere'. Mass hallucinations may be a real phenomena triggered by geological events, cosmic rays or unusual weather patterns. Who knows?

In the end this leads to me to question whether or not their really is anything to disclose - if they have been keeping this secret since 1947 and before then I really don't see why they would choose to come clean about it now.

All I ever really wanted from 'ordinary' people is the acceptance of the *possibility* that we are not alone in the Universe and that there is *no real reason* why we wouldn't be visited by ETIs either in the past, present or in the future. Disclosure can't happen until people's perceptions are widened to accept those possibilities.

Ally said:
BTW I like reading your posts and opinions. I think you add alot to this forum.
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Thanks - I get the feeling you might be in the minority...

...I know, I'll start a new thread entitled "Who likes me?" ;)
 
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