John S. Carpenter on alien abduction.

[trainedobserver]

This is one I had not watched before. An alleged multiple person abduction.

 

[Goggs Mackay]

I remember seeing the vid of the guy at the factory. I just passed it off as another youtube fake but who really knows. It's far from a sensationalist abduction video which itself is always interesting.

 

[Muadib]

I'm about twenty minutes into the presentation and something strikes me as kind of off. He goes into a lot of detail about it being 1989, before the X-Files, before Sightings, etc. He also says that both of the women were unfamiliar with UFO research, abduction accounts and science fiction. So when he got to the part about them writing in their road journal regarding their sighting, I was more than a little miffed to see that the woman writing it described it as a "mothership" To me, that's indicative of, at the very least, a knowledge of science fiction terminology. Nobody who was unfamiliar with UFO's or sci-fi would describe an anomalous craft in the sky as a "mothership"

 

[Goggs Mackay]

Muadib - I take your point about the term 'mothership' but to check I looked the word up and it has been in use a long time describing large ships or aircraft that could harbor smaller vehicles.
So perhaps that part is no stretch?

 

[Muadib]

I guess it's possible that she picked up the term elsewhere but I think it's highly unlikely. When I looked up the word myself, besides it's origin as a term for large whaling ships, or it's use in describing military craft, the term was popularized in science fiction and used extensively in UFO descriptions and even some old contactee cases. Combine that with the silly new-age message that the aliens eventually deliver and I'm thinking it's some bullshit. Plus there's the whole thing with them documenting every single freaking thing they did down to the minute, like they knew they'd be called on it later. Carpenter glosses over it by saying they're "compulsive people" but something just seems off about the whole thing to me.

 

[Muadib]

Besides the first case, the rest of the documentary was pretty interesting imo. I had seen that factory video before but never heard of any analysis done on it, so that was pretty interesting, though I'm not quite sure what to make of it. I'd like to see an analysis done by somebody who wasn't a member of the UFO community just for comparison. The Skinwalker Ranch stuff was good too, I read the book but I don't remember some of the pictures he showed being in it. Thanks for posting it trainedobserver.