Karl Pflock discusses Steven Greer, Exopolitics and "Disclosure"

[Paul Kimball]

The late Karl Pflock talking about the direction ufology has been headed in the past decade or so, with things like the Disclosure Project, linking UFOs with political issues, and exopolitics. From the 2001 interview I conducted with him for "Stanton T. Friedman is Real."

 

[Martina]

I think he makes a good point in that Steven Greer and his ilk are muddying the waters a great deal and taking us further away from getting to the facts of the UFO mystery.

 

[trainedobserver]

I think he makes a good point in that Steven Greer and his ilk are muddying the waters a great deal and taking us further away from getting to the facts of the UFO mystery.

The whole "Disclosure Project" debacle was a real crime. Greer had several people come out of the woodwork so to speak, expose themselves, possibly violating security oaths, and so forth only to be associated with Greer's new Contactee movement/cult in the end.

 

[Martina]

The whole "Disclosure Project" debacle was a real crime. Greer had several people come out of the woodwork so to speak, expose themselves, possibly violating security oaths, and so forth only to be associated with Greer's new Contactee movement/cult in the end.

Yeah, pretty sorry stuff all around. When Greer first came out with his stuff I thought he was really going to be serious and get somewhere with it, but then he started making claims I just could not take seriously at all, and was caught in a lie about having briefed a sitting CIA director, which turned out to have been nothing but a casual conversation over dinner at a restaurant with wives present, and a third couple.

Then he goes off into this free energy thing as a spin-off of UFO technology, and pursues that, which amounted to nothing at all, and starts taking paying customers on contactee field excursions. I think he really has betrayed those people he got up there at the National Press Club violating their oaths for him in hopes of bringing about disclosure, which remains a chimera.

 

[dyingsun]

*moth in flashlight = alien benevolent overlord only speaking to Greer*

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

*moth in flashlight = alien benevolent overlord only speaking to Greer*

Yeah, tell that Michael Horn who is now saying that the Billy Meir case is the ONLY true contactee scenario (all the others are false(?)) ... I'd love to get them both on the show and see what they have to say to one another...

"I've been on the Ships I know!" ---Steven Greer, 1994

 

[dyingsun]

I'm just glad there's still comedy in a 'field' like this. After writing my last post, I had to revisit the picture I mentioned before..'Alien caught on camera'..still i(literally) in tears from laughing too much.

 

[trainedobserver]

Yeah, tell that Michael Horn who is now saying that the Billy Meir case is the ONLY true contactee scenario (all the others are false(?)) ... I'd love to get them both on the show and see what they have to say to one another...

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind at this point that what we are actually discussing here are religious movements? It is the old-time Space Brother religion.

 

[dyingsun]

Here it is for those that don't/didn't know :

 

[trainedobserver]

Here it is for those that don't/didn't know

That would make an excellent T-shirt to wear to a Steven Greer 'lecture' wouldn't it?! Can I have your autograph Dr. Greer? Like my shirt?

 

[dyingsun]

The captures do it for me really... Rick, if he ever comes to my 'neck of the woods' (that's germany), I 'll print one for sure!

 

[Kandinsky]

Pflock is too kind on Greer.

He's touting free energy devices and alien contacts at high prices. Just one in a long line of successful conmen and BS merchants.

In the ufology area, people associate him with the disclosure project and tend to think he had honest intentions that fell short. They ignore his notable lack of due diligence in vetting witnesses. They don't know about his dubious behaviour attempting to steal and copyright the Rockefeller 'Best Evidence' report. More than that, a lot of folk aren't aware that he's pissed off a lot of people who's path he's crossed. It's hard to find anyone with a good word to say about him.

All that is just history and BS. His CSETI endeavours are likely making a profit. It's less well known that he fronts a number of companies that focus on 'free energy.' A modern day snake-oil salesman who's managed to live a jet-setting life, sent his kids through Ivy-League and presented nothing whatsoever of substance.

20 odd years of deception has been pretty rewarding.