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Lost Knowledge: The Hard Evidence

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Bob Watson

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with past threads played out I figured to start a new discussian on the EVIDENCE for lost knowage. please post hard evidence or thoughts on others submittions. please no religious post or conjectures I wish hard evidance. here is my 1st offering.

 
Great videos, Bob. Thank you!

I've been interested in this device for so long I can't remember, and studies of it have appeared in several journals and magazines. The people involved in reconstructing what the original was like have largely agreed, though there has been some polite "infighting" (so to speak) among them, but nothing serious. They all agree it is/was a wonderful mechanism. The scientist in your two videos, Michael Wright, has been in the forefront of research on this device.

The Antikythera device was a little wonder, and there are accounts of similar devices in ancient Roman literary sources. From what I've learned, the one found was by no means a one shot wonder, but that ones like it evidently were around earlier than this device, thought to have been constructed in the second to first centuries B.C.

At some point in this particular device's history it was X-rayed with some pretty sophisticated machines, and that helped with a bunch of stuff toward recreating it.

Yep, those Greeks were something else! What our ancestors in antiquity were capable of is truly extraordinary.

And, Bob, you said you have three kids. Congratulations. I beat you by one, but I've never had twins! You and your wife are clearly proud of them, and I can tell you make them a centerpiece of your life. You mentioned them in another post. I just became a grandpappy two weeks ago myself, so you can look forward to that, too.

Thanks for these videos, Bob. Kim:)
 
thanks Kim! yeah the twins are a handfull! Katlin daisy and debra jasmine! (35 min apart.) this little wonder shows the greeks had
1.a knowlage of planitary movements
2. the skill and knowage of making interlocking fine gears.
3.advanced mathimatical knowlage
more on it;
 
That one had me mesmerized, Bob. It was a real ballet, and not a word in it.

Yes, great knowledge of all three of those things you mentioned. If I, personally, Kim, somehow was transported back in time, I'm ashamed to say that I really would have nothing to teach them. Very humbling. Kim
 
Kim323 said:
If I, personally, Kim, somehow was transported back in time, I'm ashamed to say that I really would have nothing to teach them. Very humbling. Kim
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You do not have to travel back in time to have nothing to teach, you do that here quite well. :) I think most of us here would think about going back in time to very eagerly LEARN something.
 
Hi, Pixel. Bob started this thread with a stated purpose. I've really enjoyed his videos.

Actually, I don't need to go back in time to learn things from the past, from the people of the past. I think my posts have shown, and I do it every day, that I have plenty of their own primary sources I read, and I read a lot of the works of scholars who study those sources for their interpretations and to learn from them.

People of all ages and times (look at Herodotus, who despite his shortcomings as a historian long ago, also provided the people of his time the history of times past) have learned from their own pasts. I expect any day now to receive the four volume set of Theodor Mommsen's History of Rome from a professor of Classics at a major university who wanted to sell his 1887 editions of this nineteenth century historian of Rome.

He assured me that the books have that wonderful musty smell that transports you better than any thought exercise or actual time machine to the past. People have always been able to learn from the past: it's there for you to reach out and grab, and it's a journey that, yes, I learn far more from than I could ever teach, and you don't need a time machine.

A great post, actually, Pixel, that made me think that I should have appended that thought that I learn far more from people of the past than I could ever teach them. But time machines don't exist, though I can nevertheless peer back through time through books. Thought provoking, indeed, your post, and it actually illuminates Bob's point in starting the thread. There is indeed knowledge in the past. Thanks, Pixel. Kim:)
 
Kim323 said:
Hi, Pixel. Bob started this thread with a stated purpose. I've really enjoyed his videos.

Actually, I don't need to go back in time to learn things from the past, from the people of the past. I think my posts have shown, and I do it every day, that I have plenty of their own primary sources I read, and I read a lot of the works of scholars who study those sources for their interpretations and to learn from them.

People of all ages and times (look at Herodotus, who despite his shortcomings as a historian long ago, also provided the people of his time the history of times past) have learned from their own pasts. I expect any day now to receive the four volume set of Theodor Mommsen's History of Rome from a professor of Classics at a major university who wanted to sell his 1887 editions of this nineteenth century historian of Rome.

He assured me that the books have that wonderful musty smell that transports you better than any thought exercise or actual time machine to the past. People have always been able to learn from the past: it's there for you to reach out and grab, and it's a journey that, yes, I learn far more from than I could ever teach, and you don't need a time machine.

A great post, actually, Pixel, that made me think that I should have appended that thought that I learn far more from people of the past than I could ever teach them. But time machines don't exist, though I can nevertheless peer back through time through books. Thought provoking, indeed, your post, and it actually illuminates Bob's point in starting the thread. There is indeed knowledge in the past. Thanks, Pixel. Kim:)
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amazing! the retired teacher learned something from a brain damaged norwegian.
 
Nice thread - would love to see more stuff posted here.

How about the 'wedge of aiud'?

Wedge of Aiud - Google Search

One can go pretty far with assumptions and speculation on what this find implies; I'll simply submit this as possible hard evidence that the manufacture of aluminum was invented/discovered at least 300 years ago, perhaps 19,000 years ago?
 
nice finds mike but the second remains an enigma and the writers are jumping on a alien bandwagon... the item has no hard evidence of alien origens...but prove some one at one time had the tech to make such a thing...
 
vesvehighfolk said:
with past threads played out I figured to start a new discussian on the EVIDENCE for lost knowage. please post hard evidence or thoughts on others submittions. please no religious post or conjectures I wish hard evidance. here is my 1st offering.

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this is a better doc about this thing which is actually more interesting and more complicated than the youtube clip;

BBC iPlayer - The Two-Thousand-Year-Old Computer

hope it can be viewed in your respective countrys, if not try and see if its been reposted some where else( if u want!)
 
Just the Antikythera device blows my mind. Here is proof positive of design and fabrication skills in the ancient world not equaled (publicly anyway) for at least a dozen centuries afterward.

You have to wonder what else may come before.
 
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