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Mars Anomalies
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Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
Mas Anomalies
Same here.
fitzbew88 said:
Same here.
Mas Anomalies
The basic idea is that a high velocity "object" hits the ground. The object's kinetic energy is turned into heat which melts the soil --- the soil (in a temporary liquid state) rebounds vertically --- bouncing back from the impact. If it cools fast enough it leaves a hemispherical formation (an uplift) in the center of the crater.
Add in a few hundred million years of erosion, and you get what you are looking at on Mars.
On the Moon, where there is no atmosphere, these craters do not experience significant erosion and they can stay in a very pristine state. Just take a pair of 8x-10x binoculars out and look at the Moon the next time it is visible and you'll see a million of them.
The high velocity "object" could be a meteor, a comet, --- even falling debris from another strike elsewhere on the planet. The nature of the object will impact the nature of the crater. The object could explode in the air and the crater would be formed by an explosive force. Or it could be ice when it hits. Or it could be a rock.
Crashing alien spacecraft usually leave diagonal lines, from where they fired their reverse thrusters at the last second in a desperate attempt to save themselves. (Earth is not on a lot of the older interstellar maps and this has caused no end of awkward discussions at Intergalactic Council meetings.)
rohnds said:
The basic idea is that a high velocity "object" hits the ground. The object's kinetic energy is turned into heat which melts the soil --- the soil (in a temporary liquid state) rebounds vertically --- bouncing back from the impact. If it cools fast enough it leaves a hemispherical formation (an uplift) in the center of the crater.
Add in a few hundred million years of erosion, and you get what you are looking at on Mars.
On the Moon, where there is no atmosphere, these craters do not experience significant erosion and they can stay in a very pristine state. Just take a pair of 8x-10x binoculars out and look at the Moon the next time it is visible and you'll see a million of them.
The high velocity "object" could be a meteor, a comet, --- even falling debris from another strike elsewhere on the planet. The nature of the object will impact the nature of the crater. The object could explode in the air and the crater would be formed by an explosive force. Or it could be ice when it hits. Or it could be a rock.
Crashing alien spacecraft usually leave diagonal lines, from where they fired their reverse thrusters at the last second in a desperate attempt to save themselves. (Earth is not on a lot of the older interstellar maps and this has caused no end of awkward discussions at Intergalactic Council meetings.)
Mas Anomalies
Yes.
Well, I'd hazard a guess you just haven't bothered to look at the Moon using some decent binoculars.
You should be able to find images of any closely-photographed planet/moon ( which has little atmosphere ) with similar features in craters.
Here's a picture of Mercury showing many craters with central uplifts.
Mercury
Now, if you don't mind, my dilithium crystals are slightly misaligned and I've got to get back on it. Our Chief Engineer is a real stickler and I don't want to get on his bad side.
rohnds said:
Yes.
rohnds said:
Well, I'd hazard a guess you just haven't bothered to look at the Moon using some decent binoculars.
You should be able to find images of any closely-photographed planet/moon ( which has little atmosphere ) with similar features in craters.
Here's a picture of Mercury showing many craters with central uplifts.
Mercury
Now, if you don't mind, my dilithium crystals are slightly misaligned and I've got to get back on it. Our Chief Engineer is a real stickler and I don't want to get on his bad side.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
Mas Anomalies
He also hasn't explained or backed up his conclusions, yet expects us to give details about ours.
fitzbew88 said:
He also hasn't explained or backed up his conclusions, yet expects us to give details about ours.
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
Mas Anomalies
I dont see wood. I also dont see evidence for any forests on Mars. I think I see either striations or sedimentary layers that are exposed. I do not see that it is overtly anomalous. At first glance it does stand out in the broader image. However, when I looked at the image more closely I see that we are staring at a crater. I have circled the top of the crater in the image below.
I think that this suggests that this is simply sedimentary rock ejected from the crater on impact. I have not had a geology class in many years so I reserve the right to be proven wrong. to further strengthen my case, you can see many other darker spots in the image. These could also be ejected rocks.
As an afterthought, it would be nice to know the scale so that we can determine the size of the "beam".
rohnds said:Here is a wooden beam that Opportunity ran on Sol 115.
closeup of the object,
Rohn
I dont see wood. I also dont see evidence for any forests on Mars. I think I see either striations or sedimentary layers that are exposed. I do not see that it is overtly anomalous. At first glance it does stand out in the broader image. However, when I looked at the image more closely I see that we are staring at a crater. I have circled the top of the crater in the image below.
I think that this suggests that this is simply sedimentary rock ejected from the crater on impact. I have not had a geology class in many years so I reserve the right to be proven wrong. to further strengthen my case, you can see many other darker spots in the image. These could also be ejected rocks.
As an afterthought, it would be nice to know the scale so that we can determine the size of the "beam".
DisownedSky
Paranormal Novice
Mas Anomalies
I don't see why that's an anomaly. With all the craters on Mars formed over billions of years, you're likely to get one inside the other from time to time.rohnds said:Lets start with this famous one.
Rohn
Mas Anomalies
Next look at the formation itself. It seem you have something buried underneath which happen to be square in shape.
Rohn
You show me a natural formation with perfect right angled edges (90deg) and perfect square. Then I will admit this is a natural formation.donthizz said:
Next look at the formation itself. It seem you have something buried underneath which happen to be square in shape.
Rohn
Ron Collins
Curiously Confused
Mas Anomalies
How do I see the adjacent images? I think you would need 4 or 5 contiguous images to discern if this is just an odd convergence of ridges conbined with dunes. Still, it is a very interesting image. However, the topograhy doesnt look to lend iteslf to construction an Im not sure if this lies in a crater or an ancient magma upwelling of some sort.
How do I see the adjacent images? I think you would need 4 or 5 contiguous images to discern if this is just an odd convergence of ridges conbined with dunes. Still, it is a very interesting image. However, the topograhy doesnt look to lend iteslf to construction an Im not sure if this lies in a crater or an ancient magma upwelling of some sort.