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Michael Persinger lecture (must see)

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After listening to the "dr sauder" show (march the 27th) and seeing the general reaction of the listeners I thought a few people would benifit from seeing this lecture.

 
Makes one want to sleep in a Faraday cage lol. Persinger is a seminal thinker who is probably offering more truth than most humans can bear.
 
What is to say that what we see in these altered states is not as real as what we think is real in our everyday lives?

What the professor did not mention to his students is that DMT is endogenic that is something that is produced naturally by our body every day! It is present in plants, animals and humans. So why is it there?
 
dr.abbadon said:
What is to say that what we see in these altered states is not as real as what we think is real in our everyday lives?
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If we assume that evolutionary processes have molded the human central nervous system to present reality to us in the most effective manner already, then altering its operating parameters either chemically, electromagnetically, or physically (lobotomy, injury, etc.) could only be seen as detrimental to optimal perception. While some altered states could be seen as therapeutic, recreational, or inspirational I would argue that they shouldn't be viewed as alternative realities or even valid alternative interpretations of reality.
 
trainedobserver said:
If we assume that evolutionary processes have molded the human central nervous system to present reality to us in the most effective manner already, then altering its operating parameters either chemically, electromagnetically, or physically (lobotomy, injury, etc.) could only be seen as detrimental to optimal perception. While some altered states could be seen as therapeutic, recreational, or inspirational I would argue that they shouldn't be viewed as alternative realities or even valid alternative interpretations of reality.
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You have a very logical argument, although as you said it is an assumption. I personally think that we have not ventured, in the current time we live in, far enough into the understanding of what things like ayahuasca can do to our understanding of the universe.
 
dr.abbadon said:
You have a very logical argument, although as you said it is an assumption. I personally think that we have not ventured, in the current time we live in, far enough into the understanding of what things like ayahuasca can do to our understanding of the universe.
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I believe it to be a reasonable assumption based on what we now know. The evolutionary design process is ruthless and extremely efficient. Millions of years of evolution has molded the human brain/mind system into its present state. Humans mucking about with the operational parameters of such a system through the haphazard use of things like drugs and expecting to improve it at such a basic level is a bit like a ten year old kid tweeking the pots on a nine transistor radio and thinking he is going to pick up transmissions from Mars.
 
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