Naval reports

[Magic_Juan]

This has probably been covered in an older thread but here it goes.

There is a heavy bias toward looking into Airforce and airline reports of UFOs / UAPs, which of course stands to reason because of course - well they're airborn.

But the assumption is mostly that they must have originated above ground, fitting with the ETH.

My question is this:
Has much attention or research been put into military and non military Unidentified Underwater Phenomenon reports. Things going into or out of the seas and oceans as well as things that resemble the descriptions of UFO/UAPs seen gliding under the waves?

I never really read or hear much about this, possibly because there is nothing to hear or the alternative is that there has not been enough attention paid to that aspect.

Just wondering.

 

[dusty]

Hey Magic Juan,

Listen to the show with Don Ledger of March 16 08, also you might find this interesting;

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1713.htm

Mark

 

[Magic_Juan]

Just saw this:

Russian Navy UFO records say aliens love oceans | Top Stories from 2009-07-21 | RT

 

[skunkape]

I have a friend who works on commercial shrimp trawlers in the Gulf of Mexico. He told me that they once had a huge object with green lights in a circular pattern pass under their boat at night at very high speed. He wasn't the type to really care much about UFO's. I think he thought it was something military.
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[dusty]

I think it was in the book Supernature, by Lyall Watson, where he described seeing something similar, which turned out to be a collection of squid, they flouresce apparently.
Btw what do you call a group of squid? A squad perhaps .

Anyway after this event, one huge flourescent thing came up from the deep and encircled the boat they were on. I wonder what that may have been.

Thanks MJ for starting this thread, I find the oceans fascinating.

Mark

 

[skunkape]

A little digging turned this up.

http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/marinelightwheels_arabiangulf.html

Marine Phosphorescent Wheels

"Marine Light-Wheels" the sailors, who have witnessed them for hundreds of years, call them.
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[dusty]

Here's another curious one;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-remote-Siberian-lake-baffle-scientists.html

I read what was there and understand what is said about hydrothermal activity,
but the way the surrounding ice has cracked, it does look like it has been under stress from something heavy weighing down on it.

Interesting shot but quite normal I think.

Mark

 

[CapnG]

It is curious that if you do enough reading the figurative buck always seems to stop at the door marked "Office of Naval Intelligence". Makes me wonder if not only is it true that the Air Force knows nothing but that they are deliberately left out of the loop and used as the punching bag for the public by decree from higher ups in the Pentagon who want to keep the ONI connection in the dark.

Aside, "ONI" means "demon" in japanese. COINCIDENCE? Yes. But an amusing one!

 

[boulders and sticks]

Hi
When i first moved to California over 20 years ago i lived near the Northern coast.
I use to know a few fisherman who use to sail out of Bodega Bay and fish the surronding waters. They were quite often gone for some days and weeks. One of them told me that they see lights out there at night on a fairly regular basis. He also told me they do not share this with many people because of the ridicule they get. He was a very down to earth guy who did not seem to me to be full of it.
He described them glowing, changing colours and shooting around under his small fishing boat. Sometimes coming straight out of the water and taking off into the sky.
Very strange?
Cheers John.

 

[skunkape]

Here's another curious one;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-remote-Siberian-lake-baffle-scientists.html

I read what was there and understand what is said about hydrothermal activity,
but the way the surrounding ice has cracked, it does look like it has been under stress from something heavy weighing down on it.

Interesting shot but quite normal I think.

Mark

I've seen a few photos of these "ice circles." They can be fairly well explained by natural phenomenon...namely, a circular whirling eddy with enough force to prevent ice from forming. They are cool, though.
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[TClaeys]

Here is what you may be looking for. I can't remember where I heard him (don't think the Paracast) but even the web address was retrieved rather easily from my memory. I haven't gone through it for some time, but all the accounts are about UFO's found in or near water. The researcher is Carl Feindt.

http://www.waterufo.net/menu.htm

Contains 1,165 cases from the year 1067 thru February 02, 2009

 

[Magic_Juan]

Sweet mother of God!
Jackpot!

Thanks!

 

[spacebrother]

Here's a weird experience I had with a possible ONI guy about 10 years ago. This was also discussed in a Radio Misterioso show recently.

 

[dusty]

Thanks TC and Greg, great links.

Gene and Dave, how about trying to get Carl Feindt on the show.

Mark

 

[Magic_Juan]

Great article Greg!

The reason I started this thread was the thought that:
What if we have been looking in the wrong direction for the source of 'nuts and bolts' ufo phenomena?
This would imply that anything coming form the Air Force is an elaborate dis-information excercise or in magical parlance - misdirection. Make a big movement with the 'clean' hand and the audience never notices whats going on with the 'dirty' hand. And guess what - it appears for a very long time now that have been successful. The theory of crypto-terrestrials dovetails into the aquatic origin neatly as well.
Of course this is all just theoretical, but I believe if not a definitive source for a lot of the ufo phenomena, it would make sense to me that the 70% of the planet that 99.9999 percent of the population has absolutely no real possibilty of exploring and any great detail makes a pretty damn effective and secretive base of operations.
Put on a good light show every so often in the sky to keep our eyes off the sea.

 

[dusty]

For anyone interested there's an intertview with Carl Feindt over on Binall of America
4th May 08.
Hey Schuyler if you listen in, check what he says at around 41 minutes in, thought you might like to know, though you are probably already aware.

Mark