New Dolan book?

[tyder001]

I was looking through my Kindle app and saw a book (I think the name was After Disclosure) By Richard Dolan. Anybody heard of it or read it? Anyway it got me to thinking about how the world would change if we were visited by aliens. First of all let me say this. I'm not a debunker (Angel and Macdaddy and some others roll their eyes here) But, contrary to some of the newer posters apparent conception I'm not a True Believe either. I highly doubt we are being visited by beings from outer space. But, if we are I think it would change everything and not just religion. Here are some things I think it would change.

1. Religion: What if they said they "seeded us." What if they said they are in contact with universal concsiouness? What if they said there is not god and we are simply "meatbots?" We would have mass panic and people joining end of the world cults like crazy.
2. Science: What if they said our whole view of evolution was fatally flawed? What if they said thought or conscienceness was the goal of evolution and not survival of the fittest or a better machine? What if they said we didn't evolve at all but were decendents of a race that once visited earth. That the fossil record is true but the beings we search for a missing link from are not us? I honestly think "science" would handle this much better than religion although there are some pseudo skeptics who would feel really misplaced and (imo) a lot of panic themselves.
3. Economy: What if they showed us free energy and non ending food sources? What if they brought shelter and justice not based on percieved old sins slights? What if they showed a way to live without needing a social ladder? I know this goes back to possibly religion but what if they proved to us that "we" are eternally reincarnating on this planet? We and not simply one color are the Blacks and the Jews and the Nazies and the Confederates and the Sandistas and the Commuinist? What would Al Sharpton do? How would he lead his self rightous and very skewed vesion of public opinion? What would the U.S. Military do? How would our leaders and the North Koreans and all the rest react? What would the far right and the far left do? They would indeed be in a panic. The fabric of the whole world would be upside down. No reason to fight or rob or kill. Still, some would.

Just some thoughts on a Saturday morning.

 

[Simone_m]

3. Economy: What if they showed us free energy and non ending food sources? What if they brought shelter and justice not based on percieved old sins slights? What if they showed a way to live without needing a social ladder? I know this goes back to possibly religion but what if they proved to us that "we" are eternally reincarnating on this planet? We and not simply one color are the Blacks and the Jews and the Nazies and the Confederates and the Sandistas and the Commuinist? What would Al Sharpton do? How would he lead his self rightous and very skewed vesion of public opinion? What would the U.S. Military do? How would our leaders and the North Koreans and all the rest react? What would the far right and the far left do? They would indeed be in a panic. The fabric of the whole world would be upside down. No reason to fight or rob or kill. Still, some would.

This is a very --old-- (what I call>) NewAgey view of "the aliens" that has been around since the days of the Contactees and their conference at Giant Rock, when George Adamski was letting us know about the beutiful Venusians' upset at our nuclear testing. People assume that if there are extreterrestrial humanoids, they are automatically spiritualy advanced because they are so technologically advanced. I am one to NOT agree with that view. If there was for example, ETs here, either gathering resources valuable to them, or they had hidden bases here, (or a "breakaway civilization") they will make sure everything will be fine for them. It would be like, a high tech scientist saying, "I think I will go into (small town Iowa or Brazil etc) and share what I have with those folks, for no reason.

 

[tyder001]

That's the fun of speculation. Ya just never know what the motive might be. They might even think of us the way we think of fishes in the sea. Take what they need and then leave the rest to nature. I like the more spiritually advanced view but I'm turned off by both the new agey space brothers and the stark sterile advanced animal view. However it is fun to think about.

 

[Simone_m]

I also hate the stark sterile animal view, chiefly the one where I have heard some say, "Thay may view us as ants!" That sounds like something Snoory would say. I think-----I have heard The Great Friedman say that as well though. It is UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. And DUMB.
It's like in the movie 'I Robot' when Will Smith says to the lady robot-psychiatrist, "How could someone so smart, be so dumb!?"

---------- Post added at 06:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

I was looking through my Kindle app and saw a book (I think the name was After Disclosure) By Richard Dolan. Anybody heard of it or read it?

You can learn everything in that regard, at Dolan's somewhat newer website www.afterdisclosure.com . He used to be only at www.keyholepublishing.com but I saw that one looking like a house that someone has been moving out of. I think you an click on to Mrs. Karyn there, and find her writings and (radio show?)

 

[Kandinsky]

1. Religion: What if they said they "seeded us." What if they said they are in contact with universal concsiouness? What if they said there is not god and we are simply "meatbots?" We would have mass panic and people joining end of the world cults like crazy.

As I see it, religion's kinda like an alcoholic or clinical anorexic...impervious to reason. At the same time, a belief in God or some supreme creator wouldn't necessarily take a big hit from aliens showing up. The fundie guys think evolution has been made up to piss them off and would have no problem doubting the word of aliens. They've already laid the groundwork by identifying aliens as demons.

2. Science: What if they said our whole view of evolution was fatally flawed? What if they said thought or conscienceness was the goal of evolution and not survival of the fittest or a better machine? What if they said we didn't evolve at all but were decendents of a race that once visited earth. That the fossil record is true but the beings we search for a missing link from are not us? I honestly think "science" would handle this much better than religion although there are some pseudo skeptics who would feel really misplaced and (imo) a lot of panic themselves.

I'm not sure that any of this would be relevant to the theory of evolution. Science would definitely change to encompass the new knowledge brought about by confirmed life-forms from elsewhere, but how much?. Even if it came about that alien critters had somehow played a part in our existence, evolutionary/biological science would still stand. The principles of these sciences would apply as much to the visitors as to any other life form. Even if they were way in advance of us, at some point in their history, their existence was dictated by the same drives that have brought us this far.

3. Economy: What if they showed us free energy and non ending food sources? What if they brought shelter and justice not based on percieved old sins slights? What if they showed a way to live without needing a social ladder?

This is where we could seriously screw up. Our world is hierarchical and people love being at the top of the pyramid. Would diplomacy or international relations matter when no nation needs anything from their neighbours? What would drive us when defence and resources no longer matter? I can't imagine a world with free energy and enough food and water for everyone. What would we do with our time? I guess we'd still be stuck with government and people would still be assholes so we'd need law enforcement. Education would continue to be important and we do love being entertained. From that perspective, education, entertainment and the administrators of government would carry on. 2 out of 3 ain't bad!?

All things considered...life would likely be much the same as it's always been in a completely different way. As Led Zeppelin once said...the song remains the same. Or as Donald 'Duck' Dundee explained, 'If the shit fits, wear it,'