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Interesting, thanks. And this remark is also interesting:

This (life-but-not-as-we-know-it) is, in my view, a somewhat neglected topic. The best treatment I've seen of the topic is Feineberg and Shapiro "Life Beyond Earth" (1980) - which, for some unexplainable reason, seems to be out of print (though you can still find it used). In chapter 12 they went as far as doing away with chemistry entirely: physical life. Of course it might be extremely hard to gather any experimental data on that. Then again, a bit out of the box thinking doesn't hurt. And, as usual, if you don't look...

It's not like in the life-as-we-know-it department we made a such whole heck of a lot progress either, in terms of reproducing the exact mechanisms that got it started. Sure, Miller Urey etc. etc. is not nothing.

<blockquote data-quote="Stagger" data-source="post: 73798" data-attributes="member: 900">Interesting, thanks. And this remark is also interesting: This (life-but-not-as-we-know-it) is, in my view, a somewhat neglected topic. The best treatment I&#039;ve seen of the topic is Feineberg and Shapiro &quot;Life Beyond Earth&quot; (1980) - which, for some unexplainable reason, seems to be out of print (<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0688036422/?tag=rockoids-20" target="_blank">though you can still find it used</a>). In chapter 12 they went as far as doing away with chemistry entirely: physical life. Of course it might be extremely hard to gather any experimental data on that. Then again, a bit out of the box thinking doesn&#039;t hurt. And, as usual, if you don&#039;t look...It&#039;s not like in the life-as-we-know-it department we made a such whole heck of a lot progress either, in terms of reproducing the exact mechanisms that got it started. Sure, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller–Urey_experiment" target="_blank">Miller Urey</a> etc. etc. is not nothing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stagger, post: 73798, member: 900"] Interesting, thanks. And this remark is also interesting: This (life-but-not-as-we-know-it) is, in my view, a somewhat neglected topic. The best treatment I've seen of the topic is Feineberg and Shapiro "Life Beyond Earth" (1980) - which, for some unexplainable reason, seems to be out of print ([URL="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0688036422/?tag=rockoids-20"]though you can still find it used[/URL]). In chapter 12 they went as far as doing away with chemistry entirely: physical life. Of course it might be extremely hard to gather any experimental data on that. Then again, a bit out of the box thinking doesn't hurt. And, as usual, if you don't look... It's not like in the life-as-we-know-it department we made a such whole heck of a lot progress either, in terms of reproducing the exact mechanisms that got it started. Sure, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller–Urey_experiment"]Miller Urey[/URL] etc. etc. is not nothing. [/QUOTE]

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