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North & South Korea

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Hi folks ,
Its seems the North Korean regime maybe needs some more dosh:exclamation: or it has concerns with its power hold :exclamation:on the nation populace. Its a dangerous game to keep playing on South Korea which can only take so much before it loses face:exclamation: in the region and how far will it go until it starts spreading while China might be playing chess with these two nations due to USA economic instability?

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Peace not War,
BF
 
I wonder just how much N. Korea could sustain any real war effort considering its armed forces while large are probably lacking morale as well as depth of resupply resources. Perhaps China is their backup? Or perhaps a short war where parties agree quickly to resolve further fighting with a new set of borders put into place, with China the ultimate beneficiary of N. Korea's adventurousness? China could be using N. Korea as witting/unwitting surrogate like the rabbit in a dog race.
 
N Korea can threaten because they've got what everyone fears the most Nuclear weapons. I not sure they have a delivery system, a missile that can reach outside the Korean arena, but a few of those babies being fired would effect China more than it would effect the United States. Escalation is the only thing the United States would honestly fear if war broke out. United States can survive without South Korea over the long-term, but if China got involved we and I mean everyone down to the pet you have outside your door, will feel the effects of such a war be it a doomsday event or economic collapse.

The tensions are rising, the only way this could get worse if you see actions like this happening everyday or every week, thankfully these occurrences are sporadic but serious, so anything is possible, even war, when there is targeting of civilians by the North Koreans.
 
N Korea has missile that can reach further than previously presumed thanks to illegal arms deals and you just need to read between the lines at the last nuclear inspection report which has made the headlines. It means the USA concept of policing the Asian/Pacific region will have to once again use its big guns if the two side mix it up on a bigger scale. However, the ball game is much graver for in the region and outside as these thing tend to roller coaster especially in poorer economic times among some superpowers. . Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 
North Korea = legit crazy and dangerous

I'm a Libertarian who is against preemptive war. I think our foreign policy is absurd and reckless. That said, North Korea would have been the only country even I would have not taken issue to preemptively attacking if we were not wasting our efforts in the ME. They have nukes, test ICBMs, and have the most insane people running their country that are savages to their own people. It's unimaginable how brutal and crazy NK is. I have serious concerns over this situation. There are 30,000 US troops in SK. Seoul is 35 miles from the NK border and could literally be a target of a nuclear attack from the lunatics in NK. Fucking scary....
 
Yes its a serous situation which if the USA General Aurthur had got his way the whole issues would have solved with the use of Atomic Bombs in 1950s. Furthermore, USA policy is an issue which on the surface looks easy to blame the biggest superpower but in world of politics and defense issues it very complicated when your looking from the outside. Nations all play dirty tricks behind the seen which there spook agencies carry out. Those 35,000 or more USA and UN troops are there not just for South Korea but also to protect the interests of Taiwan ,Japan, Phil, Malaysia, Indonesia and Pacific corridor like it or not these nation have asked for USA forces currently. Mind you I rather see end to warfare altogether but in the real world of things it at going to happen! I rather see the USA than China as the dominate superpower if we have to have one at all ! at least still it has free Speech, liberty and (just) human rights. In addition, China wants to be a superpower which it is doing in a covert way regards military build up and wants to be economic powerhouse which it is growing into currently and it Communist Party wants the world to see a nice new guy on the block but executes hundreds a year who stand up against the regime for democracy and fair pay conditions? Also remember USA & UN forces losses in last conflict in 1950s on the Korean Peninsular saw over 50,000 killed hundreds POW's and thousands wounded from the USA alone not mentioning the South Korea, North Korea and China loses. However, I take my hat to all those Australian and New Zealand , British,Canadian, USA etc Veterans who stood for Freedom of Speech, Liberty and Justice,

God Bless America & its Allies,
BF
 
I think we should intervene. I think NK wants to provoke the situation. My militant side says strike hard strike first and make damn sure we take them back to the technological stone age. But my practical side tells me that the best move is through diplomacy and coalition building. Either way we had better be ramping up our presence in the area.

Of course, we could just wait for the space brothers to swoop in and stop the missile launches. :)
 
Having a 'limited' nuclear Arsenal like NK, they can't do a thing really and they know it. 'Star Wars' as in laser/missile systems shooting down and neutralizing warheads is in effect by now I guess, I think Bush Senior first mentioned it (I don't mean the 'ET - lets unite' speach ). ;)

Also, these days, what would the world be without villains.
 
North Korea's army is the best trained in the world, the whole country is builT around it, it practices nuclear excercises 3 times a day, even do people say NK is poorly equiped it could overun UN and SK forces with 24 hours. Over 1 million active personal with the capability to conscript a extra 2 million part timers and 750k+ militia Vs 50k UN troops and 150k SK/Japan troops the clear winner would be NK
 
North Korea's army is the best trained in the world, the whole country is builT around it, it practices nuclear excercises 3 times a day, even do people say NK is poorly equiped it could overun UN and SK forces with 24 hours. Over 1 million active personal with the capability to conscript a extra 2 million part timers and 750k+ militia Vs 50k UN troops and 150k SK/Japan troops the clear winner would be NK


North Korea military maybe one of the world largest regarding personnel which it has been assisted by China, Iran and Russia through illegal weapons contracts under noses of the UN so called embargo. North Korean civilian population starve at the progress of it military expenditure which most of the UN assistance to starving masses is maybe funneled into the arms factories for rationing for its forces. However, in today's world of military forces its the gear hidden out of sight which can make all the difference and with communication technologies Navy sends aircraft carrier to Korean waters - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times . R.R.F. No war is better option for all in involved.
 
North Korea military maybe one of the world largest regarding personnel which it has been assisted by China, Iran and Russia through illegal weapons contracts under noses of the UN so called embargo. North Korean civilian population starve at the progress of it military expenditure which most of the UN assistance to starving masses is maybe funneled into the arms factories for rationing for its forces. However, in today's world of military forces its the gear hidden out of sight which can make all the difference and with communication technologies Navy sends aircraft carrier to Korean waters - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times . R.R.F. No war is better option for all in involved.

I really doubt a war with North Korea would be a cake walk. You only have to look at the landscape to figure that one out. North Korea is largely mountainous has large areas of forests, which a non -indigenous conventional army, would have to gain control over to win the war, and those type of battles would be hard fought. End Result large casualties before the war ends.

The question is how willing are the North Koreans from the top down, the big guy to the small guy, even to the ladies, ready to fight to the end? Is that population lacking morale, or is that fiction pushed on us by the Western media? They don't have the lavish lifestyle, we have the west, but are the poorest of that society skipping meals or not receiving food?

The North Korean Military, are just people at the end of the day, if it is the case, their families are not getting the basic necessities of living, I would be more convinced, then I am now, the North Koreans would fold in about a week or two after the commencing of war in that region.

This is not a racist slur just a fact of history. Asian countries tend to fight with more passion, and resolve then Arab nations. Somebody else might view it differently to me?

Anyway, the last war with the North Koreans, it almost ended up with a defeat for the UN and Allied forces. Superior weaponry stopped the Chinese and North Koreans forces from over running the zones of conflict, their armies often fought battles, with no artillery or tanks or planes, and still they pushed the Allies back!
So you have to wonder! How successful would the West in particular be against the North Koreans, and the Chinese in a war?

Last three conflicts with Asian nations resulted in a win against Japan (only by nuclear weapons) Vietnam was a disaster (lost) and the Korea war ended up becoming a stalemate, once the treaty was signed. When, and if this war occur's, victory will depend on the willingness of (the US and Allies) to use nuclear weapons in their bid to achieve victory? and how willing the ordinary citizen and ordinary soldier of North Korea is willing to give up his life for their government and country?
 
Agreed and like I said before its the gear behind the scene which aids the winning force but at end of the day it still boils down to individual and groups combat actions in such horrible event occurs (warfare is a fluid affair) which will effect everyone in this Global Economy. However, China backed N.K. will not be a push over (Mind you China would rather dump a radical nation for it economical survival) nor will S.K as they have quite a modern army and is trained by the No1 Military Superpower 'ARMY STRONG! The USA has not been through all these historical conflicts for right or wrong reason to the political correct brigade which under estimate USA high technology which like all military can be compromised by leaks..
Like I said before Peace not War is always better for Servicemen and Women.

Peace,
BF
 
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