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I don't, history does. Or do you think we arrived at our current level of technical sophistication without engaging in unethical beahviour or commiting stomach-churning atrocities? Omlettes and eggs, etc. The buck NEVER stops.

I never actually mentioned that but since you asked I'd say hopelessly incurable, terminally ill, brain-dead vegetables on life support. They're wasting hospital resources and unecessarily extending the grief of their loved ones.

Again, I never said anything about that, you said science in general, did you not?

Why yes, it seems you did.

With the exception of iPods, probably all of of those. ICE's allowed man to travel faster than god had "intended". Electric lights would only lead to immoral activity after dark. Antibiotics would cure diseases sent by god to punish the wicked for their sins. There's always some religious nut somewhere thumping a bible on a lecturn and decrying X to his congregation as "the work of the devil". I've seen so-called right to life activists on television as recently as last month trying to make the case that condom use is essentially the same thing as late term abortion.

"The Church" (by which I assume you mean the Holy Roman Catholic Church) is at best schitzophrenic on scientific matters, equal parts rational and lunatic. But I never said "the church" I spoke of religion generally.

<blockquote data-quote="CapnG" data-source="post: 67252" data-attributes="member: 175">I don&#039;t, history does. Or do you think we arrived at our current level of technical sophistication without engaging in unethical beahviour or commiting stomach-churning atrocities? Omlettes and eggs, etc. The buck NEVER stops. &nbsp;I never actually mentioned that but since you asked I&#039;d say hopelessly incurable, terminally ill, brain-dead vegetables on life support. They&#039;re wasting hospital resources and unecessarily extending the grief of their loved ones.&nbsp;Again, I never said anything about that, you said science in general, did you not?Why yes, it seems you did.&nbsp;&nbsp;With the exception of iPods, probably all of of those. ICE&#039;s allowed man to travel faster than god had &quot;intended&quot;. Electric lights would only lead to immoral activity after dark. Antibiotics would cure diseases sent by god to punish the wicked for their sins. There&#039;s always some religious nut somewhere thumping a bible on a lecturn and decrying X to his congregation as &quot;the work of the devil&quot;. I&#039;ve seen so-called right to life activists on television as recently as last month trying to make the case that condom use is essentially the same thing as late term abortion.&quot;The Church&quot; (by which I assume you mean the Holy Roman Catholic Church) is at best schitzophrenic on scientific matters, equal parts rational and lunatic. But I never said &quot;the church&quot; I spoke of religion generally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnG, post: 67252, member: 175"] I don't, history does. Or do you think we arrived at our current level of technical sophistication without engaging in unethical beahviour or commiting stomach-churning atrocities? Omlettes and eggs, etc. The buck NEVER stops. I never actually mentioned that but since you asked I'd say hopelessly incurable, terminally ill, brain-dead vegetables on life support. They're wasting hospital resources and unecessarily extending the grief of their loved ones. Again, I never said anything about that, you said science in general, did you not? Why yes, it seems you did. With the exception of iPods, probably all of of those. ICE's allowed man to travel faster than god had "intended". Electric lights would only lead to immoral activity after dark. Antibiotics would cure diseases sent by god to punish the wicked for their sins. There's always some religious nut somewhere thumping a bible on a lecturn and decrying X to his congregation as "the work of the devil". I've seen so-called right to life activists on television as recently as last month trying to make the case that condom use is essentially the same thing as late term abortion. "The Church" (by which I assume you mean the Holy Roman Catholic Church) is at best schitzophrenic on scientific matters, equal parts rational and lunatic. But I never said "the church" I spoke of religion generally. [/QUOTE]

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