Peace Prize winner delivers more peace.

[pixelsmith]

Upsetting, graphic video thanks to a certain Peace Prize winner. I suggest you do NOT watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hhtk950O-OU

 

[truthseeker]

Not that I'm a big fan of Gaddafi and his ilk but it looks like helping the rebels was the biggest blunder the UN and US administration created since getting involved in this fiasco. The new guys are about a 100,000 times worse and if you think that Gaddafi was bad, you better hold down to your butt, to what's coming.

Stay the fuck out of there. There is not going to be democracy in the Middle East in the next thousand years, so stop dreaming this lunacy, please.

 

[dyingsun]

A giant clusterfuck right from the beginning. People citing the 'Arab Spring' as the cause are deluded. All I have to say to this.

 

[pixelsmith]

A giant clusterfuck right from the beginning. People citing the 'Arab Spring' as the cause are deluded. All I have to say to this.

"Arab Spring" aint got nuthin on Obomba Fall

 

[mike]

Im no fan of Gaddafi either, I remember lockerbie well .
But when i read they sodomised him with a large knife before killing him, i thought to myself, out of the frying pan into the fire.
Looks like one uncivilised monster will be replaced by others

 

[Randall]

Upsetting, graphic video thanks to a certain Peace Prize winner ...

pixelsmith,

The person who is awarded the Peace Prize is supposed to have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses. Obama has been involved in all these things. To put some video of an injured child up on YouTube and blame Obama is propoganda that panders to sentiment. I really don't think Obama wants to see suffering children any more than anyone else and last time I checked the USA was still the world's leading nation for foreign aid of all kinds.

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[dyingsun]

Nice graphs, how about an EU split up into countries and 'per capita'.

 

[Randall]

Nice graphs, how about an EU split up into countries and 'per capita'.

dyingsun,

The graphs I posted show the actual amounts, not some spin doctored number designed to make the world's leading supplier of aid look bad for some anti-US propoganda campaign. That being said, I'm not saying that I agree with all US military actions, but the USA is far from being some insensitive rampaging monster bent on killing children in foreign countries ( as the poster of the video that kicked this off tries to portray ). Let's also not forget that much of the NGO aid also comes from the citizens of the USA, not just the government.

The real question we need to ask is how do we stop violence against one another on a global scale? I'm all for banning all war and getting along and working together toward common and constructive causes. But what do we do when the nutbars of the world start up their violence? In the end, the reality of today is that freedom boils down to how much effort we put into defending it.

Once in a while the USA chooses to support what they deem to be a lesser evil. I can't say I agree with that rationale and personally I think foreign countries should be left to work out their own problems and that other countries should stay out of the fight unless there is a clear and present danger to their interests or people. The problem here is that as soon as the fighting starts and some other country sees an opportunity to take advantage of it, then it becomes a wider concern. Meanwhile on the ground in the battle zone, the tragedy is that people, including innocent ones are going to die, no matter whether NATO gets involved or not.

So instead of blaming NATO or the USA start blaming the war machine. That is the real enemy of humanity. It's a complex political and industrial web with its focus on exploiting people using power, greed and resources. It isn't run by any one person, or a cabal in some secret base of operations, or even the armed forces. The Armed Forces are merely the tools, not the War Machine itself. The Armed Forces can ( and often is ) used for peaceful operations in times of natural distaster. The War Machine is an influence that manifests itself in all our actions on a daily basis, particularly in the propoganda of war that focuses on misplaced glory and human sacrifice for the illusion of some greater ideology.