Peter Davenport -Passive Radar project

plumbbob12 · Nov 12, 2010

Guys. One of the best and most creative ideas that I have heard in a while is the idea of using passive radar system, set up nationally in order to identify and follow UFOs. I don’t know that much about <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com

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UFO’S IN THE NEAR-EARTH ENVIRONMENT” is a good idea, and I don’t see why people like Bob Bigelow would waste his money on MUFON’s “star project”, and not on proven technology that would be low cost, and WORK! My undergrad is in chemistry and I am an Electronic Tech with CSU in Colorado, and can follow the technical data, but I am not a radar specialist. We need to get a good technical review of this paper, and maybe <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Davenport</st1lace></st1:City> on the show and try to get this project going. After all, we don’t know where these UFO’s come from, or where they go. Is there a “mother ship” parked in orbit, and where do the large black triangles come from, and where do they go. Is there an earth base? The idea of passive radar is the best was to collect the needed data, and maybe answer some of these very basic questions. PB

Kandinsky · Nov 13, 2010

Mr Davenport is the chief exec of NUFORC (National UFO Reporting Center) and years of experience in the field of UFOs. For a long time, he was the man answering the NUFORC hotline and taking first-hand reports from UFO witnesses. He's done a few interviews and they have interesting accounts in them. He sort of represents the trajectory, or story arc, of ufology in my eyes.

He's been an observer to the changing style of reports and witnesses. At the same time, he's borne witness to the changes in society that have almost collapsed the integrity of UFO databases by pissing in the pool. He's been led to despair by hoaxers and anti-social detritus using his hotline numbers to be abusive and malicious. The guy's a minor legend as a front-line watchdog of the UFO phenomena.

In my opinion, the most fascinating account in his history is when he was asked to talk to a number of high-up military/govt staff on the subject of UFOs. The meeting lasted 4 hours and he was asked if he knew of anyone in the US Govt knew something about the UFO subject and were acting 'extra-judicially (illegally).' That's interesting stuff right there! It's a clear implication that someone in Govt was wondering what someone else in Govt was up to. One can only speculate the precursor events and thoughts that led to Mr Davenport being approached.

In terms of the passive radar idea? Like you, I'm able to understand scientific reports and terminology and don't have the education to be critical on something of this nature. As far as I understand it, I picture the atmosphere as a 3-D space that is awash with a noisy ebb and flow of transmitted signals (radio, bluetooth, TV, satellite etc). As objects pass through the 'seas' of this noise, they disturb the flow and cause ripples that reflect from the objects like waves from a boat. The passive radar system responds to the effects of the passing object rather than a focus on the object.

A network of passive radars would be able to record the data of passing objects in the airspace of a particular location/nation in 2-D. They could piggy-back conventional FM transmitters that are already established. One passive radar could then monitor traffic within a radius of ~100 miles which would translate as a whacking great 2 million cubic miles of airspace. A major downside would be the amount of processing time to interpret the data. Maybe something like the SETI application that links thousands of home PCs and uses a minor % of the processors would be a possibility?

The sheer amount of data would need storage as I feel passive radar would be an instrument of hindsight. A UFO sighting would be reported and the data then mined for conformation and tracking.

On the bright side, if just one in 10 000 reports is an actual unidentified flying object, we'd have a smoking gun within a couple of years. If we had a couple of smoking guns, a more open and public survey could developed and financed from our misspent tax dollars.

The key thing to realise is that if passive radar is so promising there's very little chance that it isn't already deployed for military purposes. The question would then be...are they using the data to monitor UFOs? The data is meaningless unless applied to a search criteria. It's interesting to think about...thanks for posting the thread!

plumbbob12 · Nov 14, 2010

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I also agree that the military has been using this for years, along with most 2<sup>nd</sup> world countries who need a good understanding of what is flying over there air space for little investment.
Your comment on the Government being clueless and asking P.D for input strikes home. I worked over 6 years in the Fed Gov. I was a lowly G-09 ,1640 facilities manager with a secret clearance, (which is nothing special at all), but I did work in administration in APHIS, and learned very quickly that most Fed employees only want the get there retirement, and not make too many waves. The government is as clueless as everyone else as to why the EBE’s are here. Yes, they might have some better films, and photos, etc, but they have no better idea of what these other visitors want, and that scares them on many levels.

Peter Davenport -Passive Radar project

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