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Hi ALL,


I sat down today wondering about ufos and i have these questions.


With all the technology that ufos supposedly have why do they still have flashing lights and strobes and glow etc?

If they are real and as hi tech as we assume then why do they still need to have flashing lights on their craft, why do they still glow Surely they would be able to navigate without the need of lights?

The lights arent needed in space...our shuttle doesnt use them

People like Billy Meir......with all the info he has...why do these aliens ask him to tell the world to listen and believe...when they could land in each of our major cities and proclaim the same message themselves......i know i would listen if 6pm news showed an alien telling us to behave.

If they were real then why dont we see 100's if not 1,000's of them flying throughout our skys?

I spent weeks looking out into the sky looking and waiting for something and nothing appeared.

I was once a strong believer in my younger years but now feel that maybe just maybe this may be a fantasy afterall?

Being so powerfull and advanced why do they not appear in front of tv networks announcing their existance?

Why do they not land and allow people to take photos....perhaps even wait for humans to go home and get a proper camera and take some not so fuzzy out of focus shots which look like a plane...umm nah its a star...ummm nah its a weather balloon. cmon over 50 years of ufos and not one seriously realistic believable photo from anyone.

Most ufo videos show ufos banking to the left or right when making turns in our skies......why?

Arent they use special antigravity gear onboard? Our planes have to tilt and bank left/right to turn as a result of their design and physics and our propulsion system and yet ufos seem to turn the same?

lol like x-wing fights ready to blow up the deathstar and they fly as if on earth as if fighting against gravity.

Surely if these craft exist then they wouldnt need to not turn in arcs...why not just straight lines?


Maybe we are alone in this universe.....maybe its been a story handed down in generations to amuse us from the powers that be.

With all the supposed sightings nothing really ever becomes hard evidence in the media to wake everyone up as with times of war or natural disasters.

Do we not plant these images of greys and saucers in our own imagination?

If they abduct cows and humans then why so discretely? With all that power why not just take and say stiff shit to whoever is watching?


Nobody has any real evidence

Nobody has any artifacts

Nobody has any clear images of craft or beings

Nobody to this day can prove beyond a doubt with 100% accuracy that ufos exist....its always been its looks like, i think it was, may it was....but never a 100% perfect sighting in 50 years.




ITS ALL SPECUALTION AS ITS BEEN FOR THE MANY YEARS

Many of you may feel offended by my questions...please dont... i want ot believe and i want to see these things but i really dont think we will.

lochness, bigfoot, yeti etc etc.... and ufos....all subjects of legend and campfire stories


The texas sightings.....so many people had seen these ufos and yet nobody even took a picture....and yes i seen the squiggly picture some guy took saying it was a ufo (looked like a street light shot with a jerky moving camera)

Not one camera phone shot, vid cam or 35mm nothing....just a heap of people wanting some lime light in the media.

Its been to long for us to say that the powers that be are holding this from us....i dont think they are.....i think they are just ammusing us knowing very well that we will not see anything.

I showed a friend the countless ufo movies on youtube...the images etc and his response was that anything can be faked on a pc or tv. Really thats all we see.....you and and the rest of the world rely in the tv to believe.

Area 51 exists......like any other complex...what goes on there is none of our business as is what goes in your own house...none of anyones business.


LOL...if an alien is reading this....prove yourself to earth, prove your existance, show man that you do exist and are willing to co-exist


I feel today the ufosubject is slowing down along with the legends mentioned before.

What we should all be concentrating on is not hoping to see ET but to live life to the fullest. Enjoy it, live it everyday and smell a flower walk your dog, kiss your wife/husband play with your kids you see all this is real...we feel smell and see it....................................................................................................................................
 
OK, I'll give you the brief answer.

Assuming that anything about these craft - or beings - will behave along lines we understand, is a grave error.

We cannot fathom why some of these craft have lights, they would probably not use lights the way our planes do. We know nothing about their propulsion systems - we can make some assumptions or guesses, that's about it - but we still don't even know if the craft are possibly beings themselves. Seriously - we know NOTHING about what's inside those things.

And why would these beings reveal themselves?

Because YOU want them to? Seriously?

They probably don't give a damn what you & I want. There's no reason for them to reveal themselves, we're a bunch of savage monkeys, hell-bent on self-destruction. What makes you think we're worthy of open communications with a superior species? You actually think that the majority of humanity could deal with the situation, if we find out that there's a chance that everything we currently believe is absolutely wrong?

Your desire to believe, well, you can believe in anything. People believe in Santa Claus, people believe in their governments, people believe in god. People believe in overpaid, oversized morons running after little balls, that this nonsense somehow has value, is important in the scheme of things. How many people beat the crap out of their spouses last night, because their favorite "team" lost some silly game with no intrinsic value or meaning? You seriously think that this behavior would be impressive to a truly intelligent species?

Time to wake up, grow up and realize that belief is for those with weak minds.

Strive to know, and perhaps you'll learn something.

That's it. End of rant, and welcome to our forums!

dB
 
"And why would these beings reveal themselves?"

"They probably don't give a damn what you & I want. There's no reason for them to reveal themselves"


So why do they supposedly exist here if they have no intention of meeting us?


I see it as a poor excuse to have humans send their messages when they surely know that these humans will be ridiculed in public........so the only human they may have convinced is the one and only they contacted.


All these people like lear whom come out and proclaim all this fantasy theories..... most of us take it hook line and sinker.

Mr greer and his public news meetings with people claiming to see this and that............where do these meetings end up?..............on youtube feeding our imaginations and not the many people out there who really need to be convinced.

Sir, I totally respect your opinion and your website is fascinating....but we as a human race need more proof..........and after reading forum posts on alien hair dna and quite weird suibjects i still can see that really nobody has any proff to offer and yet we still believe because lear says their real and striber was taken by them.


i myself could start a very plausable ufo story...well written story and 100's would believe.........they would believe without any proof.


Of on a tangent...i find this funny. Scientists know exactly what gases are surrounding saturn etc etc and what the centre of the earth is composed of and yet nobody has been to saturn nor the centre of the earth but because they are scientists and maybe just maybe they know more than us then hell it must be true.

LOL you could fill a hot water bottle with any liquid or gas and put in your bed abd no scientist in this world sitting 100yards from your bed will be able to tell you 100% what liquid is inside of you hot water bottle and yet...wow they know what gases exist millions of miles away in an area that they have never been before?.....cmon people wake up...or should i say cmon lemmings wake up.

Agrred end of rant......lets be friends and wait............................still waiting.................................................


Thanks for your reply David
 
Just a couple of quick thoughts, then I gotta blast out of here for a meeting...

We do NOT know what's at the center of our planet. We have theories about it - in order to support the existence of the Earth's magnetic field - but we have not gone further down that 8-10 miles, which is nothing. The core of the planet could be a vast lake of melted chocolate (if only), we have NO way of knowing at the current time.

After seeing Greer speak, I think he's absolutely full of hot air. I don't buy a word of his experiences, or opinions. He's in it for the attention, and Lord knows what else.

As to why there would be beings visiting this planet, with no intentions of revealing themselves, again, why would they?

I feel that the vast majority of "contactee" cases are bogus, though I reserve the right to be completely wrong about this.

As to why people buy into the nonsense, it's simple: the masses want someone else to do their thinking, they want someone else to tell them what to believe. Humans are ALL petulant children, intellectually lazy, and want to pass the responsibility for their actions to someone else. It's the easy way out.

More later...

dB
 
wanttobelieve said:
Hi ALL,


I sat down today wondering about ufos and i have these questions.


With all the technology that ufos supposedly have why do they still have flashing lights and strobes and glow etc?

If they are real and as hi tech as we assume then why do they still need to have flashing lights on their craft, why do they still glow Surely they would be able to navigate without the need of lights?

The lights arent needed in space...our shuttle doesnt use them

People like Billy Meir......with all the info he has...why do these aliens ask him to tell the world to listen and believe...when they could land in each of our major cities and proclaim the same message themselves......i know i would listen if 6pm news showed an alien telling us to behave.

If they were real then why dont we see 100's if not 1,000's of them flying throughout our skys?

I spent weeks looking out into the sky looking and waiting for something and nothing appeared.

I was once a strong believer in my younger years but now feel that maybe just maybe this may be a fantasy afterall?

Being so powerfull and advanced why do they not appear in front of tv networks announcing their existance?

Why do they not land and allow people to take photos....perhaps even wait for humans to go home and get a proper camera and take some not so fuzzy out of focus shots which look like a plane...umm nah its a star...ummm nah its a weather balloon. cmon over 50 years of ufos and not one seriously realistic believable photo from anyone.

Most ufo videos show ufos banking to the left or right when making turns in our skies......why?

Arent they use special antigravity gear onboard? Our planes have to tilt and bank left/right to turn as a result of their design and physics and our propulsion system and yet ufos seem to turn the same?

lol like x-wing fights ready to blow up the deathstar and they fly as if on earth as if fighting against gravity.

Surely if these craft exist then they wouldnt need to not turn in arcs...why not just straight lines?


Maybe we are alone in this universe.....maybe its been a story handed down in generations to amuse us from the powers that be.

With all the supposed sightings nothing really ever becomes hard evidence in the media to wake everyone up as with times of war or natural disasters.

Do we not plant these images of greys and saucers in our own imagination?

If they abduct cows and humans then why so discretely? With all that power why not just take and say stiff shit to whoever is watching?


Nobody has any real evidence

Nobody has any artifacts

Nobody has any clear images of craft or beings

Nobody to this day can prove beyond a doubt with 100% accuracy that ufos exist....its always been its looks like, i think it was, may it was....but never a 100% perfect sighting in 50 years.




ITS ALL SPECUALTION AS ITS BEEN FOR THE MANY YEARS

Many of you may feel offended by my questions...please dont... i want ot believe and i want to see these things but i really dont think we will.

lochness, bigfoot, yeti etc etc.... and ufos....all subjects of legend and campfire stories


The texas sightings.....so many people had seen these ufos and yet nobody even took a picture....and yes i seen the squiggly picture some guy took saying it was a ufo (looked like a street light shot with a jerky moving camera)

Not one camera phone shot, vid cam or 35mm nothing....just a heap of people wanting some lime light in the media.

Its been to long for us to say that the powers that be are holding this from us....i dont think they are.....i think they are just ammusing us knowing very well that we will not see anything.

I showed a friend the countless ufo movies on youtube...the images etc and his response was that anything can be faked on a pc or tv. Really thats all we see.....you and and the rest of the world rely in the tv to believe.

Area 51 exists......like any other complex...what goes on there is none of our business as is what goes in your own house...none of anyones business.


LOL...if an alien is reading this....prove yourself to earth, prove your existance, show man that you do exist and are willing to co-exist


I feel today the ufosubject is slowing down along with the legends mentioned before.

What we should all be concentrating on is not hoping to see ET but to live life to the fullest. Enjoy it, live it everyday and smell a flower walk your dog, kiss your wife/husband play with your kids you see all this is real...we feel smell and see it....................................................................................................................................
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Look if your just getting started on believing something might exsist outside of T.V. our planet and the mainstream press then you have a long way to go until you can come to a conclusion.

After the Texas sightings suddenly people get interested in UFOs. You should read books, listen to the Paracast, listen to other podcasts and do some research on your own.

Its not like MTV, or anything you have been told via the media.

Anyways you dont offend me, but I notice that alot of folks expect immediate answers that resemble fast food.
 
wanttobelieve said:
Hi ALL,


I sat down today wondering about ufos and i have these questions.


With all the technology that ufos supposedly have why do they still have flashing lights and strobes and glow etc?

If they are real and as hi tech as we assume then why do they still need to have flashing lights on their craft, why do they still glow Surely they would be able to navigate without the need of lights?

The lights arent needed in space...our shuttle doesnt use them

People like Billy Meir......with all the info he has...why do these aliens ask him to tell the world to listen and believe...when they could land in each of our major cities and proclaim the same message themselves......i know i would listen if 6pm news showed an alien telling us to behave.

If they were real then why dont we see 100's if not 1,000's of them flying throughout our skys?

I spent weeks looking out into the sky looking and waiting for something and nothing appeared.

I was once a strong believer in my younger years but now feel that maybe just maybe this may be a fantasy afterall?

Being so powerfull and advanced why do they not appear in front of tv networks announcing their existance?

Why do they not land and allow people to take photos....perhaps even wait for humans to go home and get a proper camera and take some not so fuzzy out of focus shots which look like a plane...umm nah its a star...ummm nah its a weather balloon. cmon over 50 years of ufos and not one seriously realistic believable photo from anyone.

Most ufo videos show ufos banking to the left or right when making turns in our skies......why?

Arent they use special antigravity gear onboard? Our planes have to tilt and bank left/right to turn as a result of their design and physics and our propulsion system and yet ufos seem to turn the same?

lol like x-wing fights ready to blow up the deathstar and they fly as if on earth as if fighting against gravity.

Surely if these craft exist then they wouldnt need to not turn in arcs...why not just straight lines?


Maybe we are alone in this universe.....maybe its been a story handed down in generations to amuse us from the powers that be.

With all the supposed sightings nothing really ever becomes hard evidence in the media to wake everyone up as with times of war or natural disasters.

Do we not plant these images of greys and saucers in our own imagination?

If they abduct cows and humans then why so discretely? With all that power why not just take and say stiff shit to whoever is watching?


Nobody has any real evidence

Nobody has any artifacts

Nobody has any clear images of craft or beings

Nobody to this day can prove beyond a doubt with 100% accuracy that ufos exist....its always been its looks like, i think it was, may it was....but never a 100% perfect sighting in 50 years.




ITS ALL SPECUALTION AS ITS BEEN FOR THE MANY YEARS

Many of you may feel offended by my questions...please dont... i want ot believe and i want to see these things but i really dont think we will.

lochness, bigfoot, yeti etc etc.... and ufos....all subjects of legend and campfire stories


The texas sightings.....so many people had seen these ufos and yet nobody even took a picture....and yes i seen the squiggly picture some guy took saying it was a ufo (looked like a street light shot with a jerky moving camera)

Not one camera phone shot, vid cam or 35mm nothing....just a heap of people wanting some lime light in the media.

Its been to long for us to say that the powers that be are holding this from us....i dont think they are.....i think they are just ammusing us knowing very well that we will not see anything.

I showed a friend the countless ufo movies on youtube...the images etc and his response was that anything can be faked on a pc or tv. Really thats all we see.....you and and the rest of the world rely in the tv to believe.

Area 51 exists......like any other complex...what goes on there is none of our business as is what goes in your own house...none of anyones business.


LOL...if an alien is reading this....prove yourself to earth, prove your existance, show man that you do exist and are willing to co-exist


I feel today the ufosubject is slowing down along with the legends mentioned before.

What we should all be concentrating on is not hoping to see ET but to live life to the fullest. Enjoy it, live it everyday and smell a flower walk your dog, kiss your wife/husband play with your kids you see all this is real...we feel smell and see it....................................................................................................................................
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If you sat down today and just got started thinking about UFOs then you should do some history and find out what you have missed until you thought about it today.
 
Here's the absolute #1 thing you have to do: stop automatically connecting the term UFO with the concept of an extra-terrestrial space craft. UFO means just that, unidentified flying object. In other words, if you've ever been outside and looked up and saw something you did not recognize immediately, you have seen a UFO, therefore UFO's are most definately "real". Alien spacecraft on the other hand are not yet "proven" to exist. It's an important difference that has sadly been eroded by decades of sloppy, giggle-fest media.

The second thing you need to do is divorce yourself from the human-centric viewpoint. As David said, these things (where ever they're from) are piloted by non-humans. Aliens, if you prefer. By definition ALONE their every action and thought will be counter-intuitive to a human one.

Third: stop thinking sci-fi. We're not talking about Star Trek where the aliens are simply weird looking but comparable species to our own. Think about where we are compared to people living back in the 1800s. Now imagine a people who are 1000 years ahead of us. Now try 1,000,000. You think their morals, values,needs and knowledge base (to say nothing of their motives) would even be comprehensible to us?

Fourth: Let go of outer space. Sure some UFOs could very well be alien space craft from other planets, solar systems even other galaxies. OR they could be from another dimension... or time... or even be a native species lurking underground or under the sea. A great many are probably top secret military prototypes that we will NEVER learn about. Break the UFO cookie cutter society has handed you and start thinking for yourself.

Lastly, as the others have said, read up, listen, learn and discuss. Don't be to quick to believe but don't rush to dismiss either. About 90% of this stuff is pure BS, so be ready for that. Just remember it's the 10% that means something you should focus on.
 
Ok, I'll bite on this because I'm procrastinating something I don't want to do. I'll respond with some typical speculative answers from a typical ETH viewpoint. My disclaimer is that I am equally intrigued by all the other theories but for the purpose of this exercise:

Virtually all of your questions--and they aren't unreasonable questions-- are based on the assumption that we are dealing with aliens in spaceships from other planets and that we already know for certain what an alien intelligence will be like and how it will behave. This line of thinking concludes that any data not in accord with our expectations of how an alien should behave is either false or misinterpreted. Many people feel that this is a flawed approach. They argue that, as we have not yet had other experiences with a non-human intelligence, any assumptions we make about their behavior can only be speculation based on how humans with human desires, needs and motives would behave.

With all the technology that ufos supposedly have why do they still have flashing lights and strobes and glow etc? If they are real and as hi tech as we assume then why do they still need to have flashing lights on their craft, why do they still glow Surely they would be able to navigate without the need of lights?

Good question. First, not ALL ufos have strobes and glow. Many do not. As to glowing, some people speculate that, if they are indeed physical craft, then this may be the byproduct of the propulsion system when operating in a gaseous atmosphere under certain conditions. They base this speculation on what we already know about various electrical and plasma effects in contact with atmospheric elements such as oxygen and hydrogen.

The observation of strobing lights is an interesting question. Humans put lights on their craft to attract attention and to avoid collisions.

Another question worth asking is that if they are truly advanced why do we see them at all? Why do they not operate with perfect stealth all the time? Humans have already developed all kinds of optical camouflage. Why do they seem to suddenly appear, hang around and put on a big show?

People like Billy Meir......with all the info he has...why do these aliens ask him to tell the world to listen and believe...when they could land in each of our major cities and proclaim the same message themselves

That's a fair question. One explanation may be that Billy Meier is making the story up and shouldn't be confused with somebody who has actually had direct experience. If Billy Meier is making it all up it does not logically follow that everyone who claims to have contact is making it up.

If they were real then why dont we see 100's if not 1,000's of them flying throughout our skys?

How does it logically follow that if they are real then there should be large numbers of them visible simultaneously? We have no basis for knowing how many may be here at any given time. For all we know Earth may be a gas station for long distance travelers on the route to someplace else. I can think of several videotaped sightings that involve more than ten objects. I'd hazard a guess that the last time there was a tight formation of more than 100 human aircraft was WWII.

Being so powerfull and advanced why do they not appear in front of tv networks announcing their existance?

Why do you stop at tv appearances? If they are truly advanced I'd like to imagine they could just beam the fact of their existence into everyone's head simultaneously or just transport us all to their home planet. The fact is that they do not and there is no basis for assuming that a first contact scenario would occur this way or that this is even desirable. Your assumption is that if ufos are real and represent an alien intelligence then their purpose for being here is to establish diplomatic relations with us as soon as possible.

We can only speculate as to why they do not do this. One line of speculation is that human history has demonstrated that first contact between a more advanced civilization and a less advanced civilization is enormously destructive to the less advanced one. It may be that mitigating this destructive scenario requires contact that is extremely gradual and controlled, occurring over decades or even centuries.

Most ufo videos show ufos banking to the left or right when making turns in our skies......why?

I'm not really aware of any ufo videos that clearly demonstrate ufos performing gradual, airplane-like banking maneuvers. I've seen many that show seemingly random floating and meandering behavior. Many ufo videos seem to demonstrate decidedly non-aircraft behavior. There is nothing other than speculation to suggest that something like "anti-gravity" is the method of propulsion. Some people speculate that the propulsion mechanisms may be based on electromagnetic effects.

Surely if these craft exist then they wouldnt need to not turn in arcs...why not just straight lines?

Why do you assume they NEED to? Maybe they enjoy it.

With all the supposed sightings nothing really ever becomes hard evidence in the media to wake everyone up as with times of war or natural disasters.

Despite the fact that you can clearly document an organized effort on the part of multiple government agencies in the United States to control and obfuscate the nature of what gets officially reported in regards to the topic I would suggest that war and natural disaster have been a part of the human condition since the dawn of man and to which we are well adapted. First contact with a non-human intelligence is a completely different order of thing and would have a profound, global impact on all cultures in ways that we can only guess at. Government thinktanks have formally studied this scenario and have postulated a wide array of negative effects on human institutions and existing belief systems.

Do we not plant these images of greys and saucers in our own imagination?

I'd say yes and no. People get information in a number of ways. One is direct experience. Another is through accounts of other people's experience, such as books, tv, etc. I don't think there is any question that movies and such populate people's imagination with things that they themselves have not experienced but this is completely separate from the question of whether SOME people have had direct experience.

If they abduct cows and humans then why so discretely? With all that power why not just take and say stiff shit to whoever is watching?

Refer to my above speculation on first contact scenarios. If aliens are abducting people they may not give a damn about any one individual but mass contact may be undesirable.

Nobody has any real evidence

I suppose that depends on your definition of evidence. If your definition of evidence is that of testable hypotheses then I would say you are correct but I would suggest that if we are dealing with something more intelligent than us there is no reason to assume that they are going to sit around and let us test hypotheses that involve them unless it suits them to do so. Some people would interpret the data as suggesting that the phenomenon is actively interfering with our ability to test hypotheses.

If your definition of evidence is implying that there is no good data then that is a false implication. It excludes an enormous number of eyewitness accounts from all countries, races, cultures and professions. It excludes all sensor data from all sources: photographs, film, video, radar, sonar, etc. It excludes all physical trace evidence.

Nobody has any artifacts

If you mean they have not publicly handed us a working spaceship and taught us how to fly it then as far as I know you would be correct. There are some rather strange objects out there that have some unusual characteristics that are claimed to be associated with ufos.

Nobody has any clear images of craft or beings

There is a large number of clear images of ufos out there and many of them have been exhaustively and professionally examined. If you mean there are no closeup images taken from 2 feet away then as far as I know you are correct. This doesn't really surprise me considering that by most accounts ufos are fairly elusive. Entity photos are much harder to come by. I've only ever seen a couple that give me pause and nothing that I could say for certain weren't fakes.

I showed a friend the countless ufo movies on youtube...the images etc and his response was that anything can be faked on a pc or tv. Really thats all we see.....you and and the rest of the world rely in the tv to believe.

While it is true that just about anything can be faked these days it does not logically follow that everything IS faked. Some people rely on the tv to believe and some have direct experience.

What we should all be concentrating on is not hoping to see ET but to live life to the fullest. Enjoy it, live it everyday and smell a flower walk your dog, kiss your wife/husband play with your kids you see all this is real...we feel smell and see .....................................

That's not a bad idea.

I think many of your questions are quite reasonable and should be asked. If you find yourself interested in the subject and genuinely want to learn what we really know for sure about the phenomenon (which isn't much) my advice is to stop watching the History Channel and Youtube clips and stop assuming that you have a good understanding of how a non-human intelligence should behave, where they are from, what their technology is like and what their motives are. Get some good books written by sober, intelligent people who have spent their lives studying the subject in depth. Look at good data from credible researchers and continually ask yourself what assumptions you are making when you make an assertion.

If you think you are going to get any kind of understanding of what is going from a Youtube clip you are going to be waiting a long, long time. It is a genuine mystery that has not yet been solved.
 
Thanks for the the reply dorkbot.


I totally appreciate your replies and the replies of others.

I have for years been a passionate follower of the ufo subject and feel that I have exhausted all my faith of one day seeing something.

I just read today that a ufo was seen this year to have landed for 30 hours............30 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6680


and nobody even took a photo let alone media news coverage.


Then i read that photos and video were taken but wouldnt ya know it....all the images/video is not worthy of viewing.


Its situations like this that make one feel less faithfull to a subject...excuses excuses excuses....thats all we seem to get and this sighting...30 hours..........in thirty hours CNN, FOX CBS ABC could have flown to mexico and shown this live even if the video was no good we would all get an idea as to what was happening....but how convenient...NOTHING.......NUDDA...ZIP


I am sure you can now see my frustration in accepting that maybe we should just leave this subject rot into history and to be forgotten.
 
wanttobelieve said:
I am sure you can now see my frustration in accepting that maybe we should just leave this subject rot into history and to be forgotten.
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Why, because YOU personally haven't seen one? History should bow to you? Really....?

What then do you make of people like Mr. Biedny or myself or others on this board who have seen UFOs? And I don't mean lights-in-the-sky UFOs I mean what-the-hell-is-that-THING UFOs. Are we to be dismissed as lunatics? I mean we could be sure but since people on this board tend NOT to be of the "space brothers from Andromeda" flavour you might at least grant us SOME credit, however small.

I'll tell you one thing if you ever do see a "genuine" UFO it won't grant you any peace. You'll become like the rest of us, wondering what the hell that was, whether or not you imagined it, and so on. There's no "answer" to be found by merely having a sighting.
 
Ditto.

You think you have questions now. They just change with a sighting. They become more intense. The number of questions grow exponentially, at least with people who admit to knowing nothing about them, who take the road of having no comfort in being assured of religious or dogmatic overtone.

Sounds as if you might be entertaining skepticism because it is comfortable. If so, you may never see one. That's a guess on my part, but it does seem to bear out with my experience.

I pose the question, just what would you label these craft and their occupants should you actually see one? Will your comfort level be so disturbed that you have to say they are benevolent? Or altogether evil? Both of those are human constructs, probably not at all related to the phenomenon but something humans tend to use to placate themselves. Or would you also be left with unanswerable questions?
 
i think the sheer number of sightings in recent history demostrates that "something" is going on, the devil of course is in the detail.

and its not just the number of sightings, but the nature of "some" of the witnesses that warrant a serious look at the subject.
trained observers in both military and civilian aviation have seen things in the sky that defy conventional explainations.when you get airline pilots , police officers and doctors making reports one must take seriously both the witness and the sighting

yes there are the frauds out there, and mistaken identity in regards to the sightings makes up a decent chunk of the data, but we are still left with some very compelling evidence

just as an aside on the fraud issue
"The bizarre appearance of this egg-laying, venomous, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal baffled European naturalists when they first encountered it, with some considering it an elaborate fraud."
"When the Platypus was first discovered by Europeans in 1798, a pelt and sketch were sent back to the United Kingdom by Captain John Hunter, the second Governor of New South Wales.[4] The British scientists were at first convinced that the odd collection of physical attributes must have been a hoax.[3] George Shaw, who produced the first description of the animal in the Naturalist's Miscellany in 1799 stated that it was impossible not to entertain doubts as to its genuine nature, and Robert Knox believed it may have been produced by some Asian taxidermist.[5] It was thought that somebody had sewn a duck's beak onto the body of a beaver-like animal. Shaw even took a pair of scissors to the dried skin to check for stitches"

"George Shaw, who produced the first description of the animal in the Naturalist's Miscellany in 1799 stated that it was impossible not to entertain doubts as to its genuine nature"
(sound familiar ?)

of course we now know this wasnt a fraud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus

but at the time the claims about this bizzare creature were deemed "impossible", and claims of seeing one were considered fraud.

man has a history of assuming if its strange it mustnt be true. but thats been proven wrong many a time.

if like the fraudulent platypus the ufo's are "real" than the implications are imho the most important discovery in our history, and worthy of further research.
 
As to why no one got videos of that 30-hour object: The story I read, on a link from C2C, stated that usable videos were taken from distances of over a mile or two, but that attempts at video-ing from a closer distance failed due to burned-out batteries.
 
Roger Knights said:
As to why no one got videos of that 30-hour object: The story I read, on a link from C2C, stated that usable videos were taken from distances of over a mile or two, but that attempts at video-ing from a closer distance failed due to burned-out batteries.
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Scott Corrales has an interesting report on his blog about that case:

http://inexplicata.blogspot.com/2008/01/mexico-luminous-ufo-lands-at-cerro-pie.html
 
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