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Red Lights in the Phoenix Sky UFO

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That's some pretty clear footage. Could they be flares or those party lanterns? Apparently there were sighting in Florida as well. It's the "headline" on the DrudgeReport. Considering all the news that's going on today I find it pretty impressive that it's his top story.
 
Doubt that they were flares. You can always see the trailing smoke in flares and they don't hover in one place like that. It could be a blimp with lights attached to it though.
 
truthseeker said:
Doubt that they were flares. You can always see the trailing smoke in flares and they don't hover in one place like that. It could be a blimp with lights attached to it though.

Ah yes, another UFO sighting I missed. :(
 
Gene Steinberg said:
truthseeker said:
Doubt that they were flares. You can always see the trailing smoke in flares and they don't hover in one place like that. It could be a blimp with lights attached to it though.

Ah yes, another UFO sighting I missed. :(

I missed it too, Gene. Although if you figure it was by the Deer Valley airport in N Phoenix, it wasn't far from either of us. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it happens again tonight.
From what I saw of the interviews, it doesn't look like the flare theory will work on this one. Witnesses and TV folks said the things (if one believes they were seperate entities) were moving independent of each other and forming shapes. Additionally, they said that the lights reacted to oncoming jets.
When I woke at 5am, the TV news was full of this and treated it with seriousness. I tipped Drudge- not a great guy but a good way to get national coverage- at about the same time.
 
This guy is collecting the videos that are popping up. Looks like he has 7 or 8 of them thus far. Seems like there is enough video from different locations to do some triangulation.

I'd suggest people posting videos to mention their camera make and model, locate their filming location w/ Google Earth and post precise latitude and longitude coordinates. I'd hope any Phoenix area investigators are making sure this info is collected.

I may have my recollections mixed up but weren't there people in Phoenix that had set up some kind of phone network after the big 1997 sighting to alert each other of events so they could get more footage? If so, I wonder if anything happened with that this time around or if the network was disbanded.
 
Simma down now

http://www.azcentral.com/community/northvalley/articles/2008/04/22/20080422abrk-strangelights0422.html

Flares attached to balloons.
 
Noanswers said:
Gene Steinberg said:
truthseeker said:
Doubt that they were flares. You can always see the trailing smoke in flares and they don't hover in one place like that. It could be a blimp with lights attached to it though.

Ah yes, another UFO sighting I missed. :(

I missed it too, Gene. Although if you figure it was by the Deer Valley airport in N Phoenix, it wasn't far from either of us. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it happens again tonight.
From what I saw of the interviews, it doesn't look like the flare theory will work on this one. Witnesses and TV folks said the things (if one believes they were seperate entities) were moving independent of each other and forming shapes. Additionally, they said that the lights reacted to oncoming jets.
When I woke at 5am, the TV news was full of this and treated it with seriousness. I tipped Drudge- not a great guy but a good way to get national coverage- at about the same time.



Looks like I was wrong, some guy is claiming he used small balloons and road flares.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/homepagetopstory/stories/Phoenix_local_news_042108_new-lights-sightings.895be60f.html
 
This is why lights in the night sky are of dubious use. Bubba the witness who saw his neighbor could be a disinformation agent, but we'll never know because now the picture is mudied (or proven debunked). We have one guy's word on it, and we don't know his motivation.

It probably was flairs. The video isn't very convincing.
 
Scott Story said:
This is why lights in the night sky are of dubious use. Bubba the witness who saw his neighbor could be a disinformation agent, but we'll never know because now the picture is mudied (or proven debunked). We have one guy's word on it, and we don't know his motivation.

It probably was flairs. The video isn't very convincing.

Besides, someone is already taking credit for perpetrating a hoax that resulted in these sightings:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352293,00.html

So make of that what you will.
 
If a police helicopter observed them to be flares hanging from balloons during the event it would be interesting to ask the news outlets that ran this story how that bit of informed observation from a public safety official escaped their attention until today. Wouldn't questioning the police be the first thing a local reporter would do and if the police helicopter observed it directly shouldn't it have been known immediately?

If people doubt the flare story then there is enough video to do triangulation and once you know the distance you can see if the apparent brightness is consistent w/ a common road flare which has an output of ~70 candela.
 
Just like '97. A bunch of flares attached to balloons and hooked together by wire. Why have UFO's turned into "red lights in the sky"? UFO's could be just a psychological phenomenon.
 
The intersting thing about all of this is what law enforcement is going to do about it. I'm pretty well versed in the area around the sighting, and there is a ton of small and large air traffic in the area. One would think that the powers that be would be hunting high and low for this guy, just to throw the book at him.
On top of all that, you don't have to live here to what flares will do if they land in open desert (the area in question is roughly where less populated desert begins on the north side. We had massive over-growth of desert brush this year and it has been in the process of drying out over the last two months. It's a tinder-box out there. Why arn't the police going after this guy for criminal neg?
Lastly, the air traffic control at Phoenix Sky Harbor airport is quoted as having seen the lights, why didn't they know they were flares?
 
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