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Roger Waters speaks at the UN
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stonehart
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lol yeah it was a little expensive but worth it.
stonehart
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Give it time live video of shows like this if they get released at all tend to be either at the end of the tour or a few years after.
Floyd at Earls Court, London 1993/4 - stoned - best gig ever, even better than Iron Maiden at 'Monsters of Rock 1988' which had Guns n Roses on bill and 2 people died in the crush!
(now I'm not saying people dying is at all good but it's pretty darn rock n roll to have deaths at a gig!
Nobody, but nobody does gigs like Floyd and that is that and no-one can ever say otherwise!
(now I'm not saying people dying is at all good but it's pretty darn rock n roll to have deaths at a gig!
Nobody, but nobody does gigs like Floyd and that is that and no-one can ever say otherwise!
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Floyd at Earls Court, London 1993/4 - stoned - best gig ever, even better than Iron Maiden at 'Monsters of Rock 1988' which had Guns n Roses on bill and 2 people died in the crush!
(now I'm not saying people dying is at all good but it's pretty darn rock n roll to have deaths at a gig!
Nobody, but nobody does gigs like Floyd and that is that and no-one can ever say otherwise!
I second that ... Having seen a Floyd show (thanks to my older brother when I was in my early teens), and seeing Roger on a number of shows.. hell yes the Floyd boys do it like no other can.
Oh and Goggs you lucky &!$@& Floyd at Earls Court in 93!! Those shows are the ones you see on the Pulse DVD.
I know - my older Bro saw them at London Docklands in like'88 which would have been the Momentary tour I suppose. I think they played something like 14 consecutive nights when I saw them - there was no other choice though, that was the only venue in the UK they used that tour. Think it was a cost thing as the shows are so expensive to put on, so it makes sense to keep everything in place. Earls Court is a fantastic venue and that part where the huge glitter ball reflects points of light into a totally dark arena, it's like floating in space - and it happens during the comfortably solo if I remember correctly. I mean, wow.
well until you posted i was feeling pretty smug but i must now kneel before the better gig record by far.
considering my age though, i feel lucky to have seen robert plant at glastonbury '93 - especially cos he had THREE guitarists on stage covering some zep numbers and they could of course properly cover all the guitar parts from the records. as great as jimmy was he could only do the one (although in 'the rain song' or 'the song remains the same' it does sound almost like two guys)
Kanakaris, i concede!
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
The Australian guys a cool, I got the version of Shine On you Crazy Diamond parts 1-5 I play live in the NZ Pink Floyd Project off of them.. Already knew how to play it but this score is just that bit tighter in critical parts. Brit Floyd are one tight group of players... I ripped their version of One Of These Days to play live
hey I am a guitar player and we can be lazy.I met Roger briefly during his last Dark Side of the Moon tour... yeah he is an imposing guy in real life, but given the chance I would love to sit and talk politics and philosophy with him.... dreams are free I guess.
Anyway I should get off the web and back to the studio space as the show is finally doing some shows this year.. a three year break was way to long... way way to long.
I have a ton of music to go back over but it will be cool to play the whole of Dar Side again this year.
stonehart
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Yeah that would be the blunt answer lol
It is fun and very cool to get to do this music but it don't pay all that well in the long run.. But the money is not why I do it.
Stoney, did I ask you about your rig/effects etc? Even when I had a strat I could never get close to that comf-numb sound from pulse. Yeah I can use chorus and bit of delay but gilmour's sound then was really fat and I always think I was missing a vital ingredient or too. Do you try to mimic his actual tone or just get on with it with whatever you have?
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Two words my friend "HiWATT AMPS", and very specifically the early 70's models as the modern ones do not even sound close to the same (tried them out).
So yeah it is the amps Goggs that is the key and then pure volume
There are two ways of getting that tone from what I can tell; first is to get as close effects wise to what he used and that is not really all that hard, but it is the amp set up that is key to it all and that is HiWATT all the way. He also uses a split amp setup so unless you are playing stadium shows forget it that is way to loud!!!
The other way to do it is to use a Fender Twin Reverb amp for you can get it to sound very close in tone to a HiWatt (I have found) and a tone that matches it very close to start with anyway (This is what I use). You can do a split amp set up this way without cooking the crowds ears in a small venue (500+ people) so I use two fender amps with out board effects to match.
All these amps are valve amps... solid state is the spawn of Satan when it comes to guitar tone and I hate the sharp hi mid tones that these create.. just no warmth.
There is the Reeves Amps on the market these days and he is the guy who designed the original HiWATT amps... from what I have been told by guys who have used them the Reeves Classic 100 sounds very much like the 70's HiWATT. I do not have the cash right now to get one let alone two!
Oh now there is one other ingredient that only one person in the world can add to get that tone and that is Gilmour... it is a natural touch that defines him as a player.. hell he could be playing "Twinkle twinkle little star" and you would know it was him playing it just by the touch and tone.
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
one other thing in regards to getting a good tone that matches Gilmour.
Start with a clean tone and match the overtones to a track where he is playing nice a clean... then start adding the effects in slowly..
This will take you not hours but bloody years to perfect and I still don't have it as close as I would like... but its very close.
Start with a clean tone and match the overtones to a track where he is playing nice a clean... then start adding the effects in slowly..
This will take you not hours but bloody years to perfect and I still don't have it as close as I would like... but its very close.
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Come to a show I guess, there is nothing up on the web for you to see right now as the whole project got put on Ice for a while... this was due to some crazy real life stuff going on here at the time.
The best way to avoid problems was to just halt the whole thing .. promotions and the lot.
The plan this year is to do a number of mid size venue shows (400 + people) starting in around May and just keep it building for the next two years.... yeah back to the grind but it is better than what I am doing right now which is mixing other peoples music.